You think Killorn is going to waive his NTC from Tampa to the Ducks?

i forgot to include that this thread includes next year too... I know he wouldn't, but I don't think ANA appears on his M-NTC

Nvm Killer has NTC. He's going for a 60 point season. TB is not moving him for Kase.

If we aren’t accepting Kase advanced stats how does he get Killorn let alone that full package? You have to take into account both he and Ritchie drive play which coupled with TB cap crunch is the only way they move Killorn for Kase.

Also shore gets more than a 7th. Deslauriers got a 4th. Shore could get a 4th.

So ANA trades one of their most important forwards (he is literally their only guy willing to stand in front of the net... The goals/points will come once the ducks get a high end forward or two) for an overpaid AHL d man... Hard hard pass, take out TT and Larson from the BUF trade and replace them with a pick of= value, to me they have 0 value, fun fact, Kase's advanced stats only slightly>better KiWWorn's, I'd consider that trade, and I doubt anything else in that trade brings much value, Stephens reminds me of like Tom Kuhnhackl lol, and if Tampa has good scouts, they'd realize (unlike people in this site) Kase is also one of if not ANA's best forward based off we test...

Pass on all of these.

Ritchie, whilst not what you hope for in a 10th OA pick, brings some much needed size and hitting to the line-up. He's also the only big-body we have suitable for sitting in front of the opposing teams netminder during the PP. He also brings a lot of intangibles to the team. He's movable, but not for Bowey Madison... not even close.

Shore could get more.

Need the veteran leadership that Henrique brings more than a bunch of high risk assets. The idea that we should trade all our older players for prospects and picks is just wrong. That's how you end up like BUF, unable to win. Henrique is one of the few players we have that has been to the SCFs. That knowledge and experience of knowing what it takes to win is vital if we're to turn things around.

We don't need another LW, we need help at RD.

I don't think moving everyone is the answer but I think you have to look at moving a few pieces. Anaheim is not in an "instant rebuild" situation like Toronto was for example. Toronto had a young controlled core that they added 3 top 10 forwards to, as well as a slew of other prospects at the same time. Even if they add another top-5 guy this year to Zegras, they probably aren't ready to make the NHL impact that Matthews/Marner/Nylander have as quickly.

My point is anybody who's deal is up in 2 or 3 seasons should be considered expendable. And especially if it's somebody you think they won't resign during the rebuild. You should be looking at moving Manson, Linholm, Rakell not because they are bad players you don't want, but because of the value they would have around the league. Add some top prospects from other systems, especially since not every prospect works out. You'll still have some veterans to help oversee the transition and help out the young guys until they are ready to takeover.

It sucks to trade away good players, but if it helps in the long run, it's the logical move, right?

I don't know what an "instant rebuild" is. If you're suggesting we need to have a long, drawn-out rebuild, you're wrong. We have better prospects than TOR did when they started their rebuild, so you clearly don't know what you're talking about and are just trying to justify us moving some player that you want on your team (I assume it's Manson and I assume you want us to move for pennies on the dollar - get bent!).

If we add a top-5 guy to Zegras, Steel, Comtois, Terry, Lundestrom, Tracey, Groulx, Thrun, Mahura, Dostal... not to mention Rakell, Silf, Kase, Henrique, Lindholm, Fowler, Manson, Gudbranson, Gibson, we're well on the way to being competitive again. We've drafted extremely well with low-end picks and already have a host of good young talent coming through the ranks. They're taking time to develop into fully-fledged NHLers, so what? We're in no rush and certainly not in the **** the way TOR was before rebuilding. Didn't TOR miss the playoffs like 9 out 10 years before getting somewhat competitive again? Meanwhile, we made the playoffs 2 years ago and went to the WCFs 3 years ago, and that was pretty much with the same core as we have now (minus Kesler and a past-it Perry). Things really aren't as doom and gloom as you think over here.



Move Lindholm? You're clueless dude. Moving Lindholm would leave us looking for another Lindholm and effectively bury us in a full-blown rebuild for the next 4-5 years. Even if Lindholm brings back a top-5 pick (which he wouldn't because those teams aren't interested in 26 year old D-men, no matter how good they are), it's a mystery box. It could bust and then we've just given up Lindholm, who will be a good top pairing D-man for the next 8-10 years, for nothing. You need to get it out of your head that we're rebuilding. We're not, we're transitioning from the Getzlaf and Perry-era. It's going to take a few years for the kids to take on the slack, but the talent is absolutely there, even if you choose not to see it.

Manson, Lindholm and Rakell will all be re-signed after their contracts are up... why wouldn't they be? Oh... to justify us moving them for pennies on the dollar to your team. Not happening bro!

We're like 1-2 years away from pushing for a playoff spot. Manson will be 30, Lindholm will be 28 and Rakell will be 29... holy ****... we better get rid of them now because 28-30 is practically ancient. We'll be lucky if they can still skate by then.

JT is 30 this year and TOR still sucks. Better get rid of him for picks. SMH!

You are an angry little man. Please go give someone a hug and make sure you know that they love you. It's not great to be this upset on this internet, so if you need to talk to someone about your frustrations please do so. I am concerned for you after this post, please take care.

If you don't want angry responses, don't troll an ANA thread with your clueless thoughts telling us we're "not in an instant rebuild situation like TOR was". You got wrekt brah. I knew you'd have no comeback... now back to NHL 20 with you.

Just have a good day okay? Live well man, breathe a little bit and just enjoy yourself.

And try not to have unbelievable blinders assuming you are always right, your team is awesome and you know best. Listening instead of shouting will help you out.

Nah mate, you're just wrong and don't know what you're talking about on this one.

LMFAO!!! So not agreeing with you and your wrong opinion of my team = "unbelievable blinders" and "assuming I am always right". You can search my post history. I've even admitted that my team is bad right now and think they should stay bad to get a high pick. Funny that when you can't comeback to something I've actually said, you just make stuff up to comeback to.

I'm writing to you on a forum. How am I "shouting"? You got wrekt so hard you have no comeback. Better quit whilst you're behind and stop responding.

Are you sure you're okay? You seem very upset and your spelling seems a bit confused. It's not healthy to be unable to see other points of view. Other people are just trying to help you, maybe just calm down for once and accept their help. It's okay, you're not alone out there. Try to smile and enjoy your day.

Still no comeback!



You really gonna call me out on my spelling when your grammar all over the place. Calling me out my spelling is so weak... You got trashed son. You're clueless about hockey so have to comment on my spelling. Get wrekt!

These moves don't address any of our issues going forward. Rico is proving to one of our only forwards capable of providing offense despite this team being completely anemic. There is zero pressure to trade Kase. He's on an incredibly favorable contract and isn't slated to be a free agent when it's up. Sure he's injury prone but the value he provides on the ice absolutely outweighs whatever return we'd get considering everyone is probably gunshy about acquiring him. Killorn is a great player but I'm super weary about acquiring a winger in his 30s with that much term left, never mind the fact he won't waive his no-trade to come here.

We don't need to make any moves this year. This year is purely about getting our young players experience and hopefully landing a top-5 pick. There's really nothing we can do to seriously shape this team into a winner until we're out from under Getzy's contract and the bulk of Perry's buyout. We can ship Grant and Miller out in two weeks and recoup some more draft picks but that's about it. I'm about ready to cut bait on Ritchie but I think we can fetch more for him near the draft. His spot doesn't need to be opened up until Comtois is ready for full-time duty.