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Looking At Possible Jack Johnson Replacements

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Équipe: 2019-20 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 12 févr. 2020
Publié: 12 févr. 2020
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As every game passes, it becomes more evident that the Penguins need to find a replacement for Jack Johnson. Even when Dumoulin & Marino are healthy, I still don’t trust him in the bottom pair role. I just don’t see him as a good fit for this team, plus his game has declined significantly since 2016/17. Too slow, no finesse & all muscle mass. He can’t handle the skill of opposing team’s top players he just physically can’t keep up. He’s always late to react to the play in front of him & misses his assignments. The team can’t exit the zone because of him. Maybe he would be a good fit on a heavier team like the Blues, Capitals or Bruins but he’s a joke here. The Penguins need someone who is a fluent skater and can move the puck up the ice. Juuso Riikola is capable according to team analysts Dan Kingerski and Jesse Marshall. We know he can skate and break out. However, don't ever expect the Penguins to bench of move Jack Johnson. Jim Rutherford, Mike Sullivan and Sidney Crosby love him so much and believe he is a vital part of the team's success.
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                          12 févr. 2020 à 15 h 3
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                          Are you guys missing Matta?
                          12 févr. 2020 à 15 h 3
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                          Bogosian at 50% is yours for a 6th or 7th
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                          You could try a standing broom, it might be better than Johnson.
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                          12 févr. 2020 à 15 h 13
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                          Quoting: Stan_Bowman
                          Are you guys missing Matta?


                          Maatta is capable of moving the puck up the ice but he is too slow for the Pens. I do think he is currently better than Johnson.
                          12 févr. 2020 à 15 h 14
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                          Quoting: Skyraider112
                          Bogosian at 50% is yours for a 6th or 7th


                          Bogosian stinks. No thanks.
                          12 févr. 2020 à 15 h 14
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                          Quoting: wojme
                          You could try a standing broom, it might be better than Johnson.


                          Exactly.
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                          12 févr. 2020 à 15 h 14
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                          Quoting: MikeyThePensFan
                          Maatta is capable of moving the puck up the ice but he is too slow for the Pens. I do think he is currently better than Johnson.


                          Hes been pretty good for us, and I think people overblow how "Slow" he is.
                          12 févr. 2020 à 15 h 16
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                          Do you think that Johnson plays bad because:
                          He spends 42% of his time with Letang, who constantly makes bad decisions and is out of place defensively leaving Johnson hanging out to dry? (Shot at Letang)
                          He spends 19% of his time with Marino who lacks experience and chases, putting himself out of position defensively leaving Johnson hanging out to dry? (Not a shot at Marino)
                          He spends 12% of his time with Schultz who tries to create offense and is often out of position defensively leaving Johnson hanging out to dry? (Similar shot as Letang, just lesser)

                          Like the 3-on-1 that Johnson faced the other day and everyone blamed Johnson for the goal?

                          I'm not saying that he is good, but the "it's Johnson's fault" thing has jumped the shark.
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                          12 févr. 2020 à 15 h 19
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                          As a Kings fan, I wouldn't do that Kings trade even if nothing was going back to Pittsburgh.
                          12 févr. 2020 à 15 h 31
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                          Have you tried a pylon? There like 8 bucks on Amazon and don't count against the cap
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                          12 févr. 2020 à 15 h 39
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                          Quoting: Stan_Bowman
                          Hes been pretty good for us, and I think people overblow how "Slow" he is.


                          Well that's good to hear, but I still think he was too slow for the Penguins system. Plus he was very soft. I saw that he has a lot of hits this season and that really surprised me.
                          12 févr. 2020 à 15 h 44
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                          Quoting: MikeyThePensFan
                          Well that's good to hear, but I still think he was too slow for the Penguins system. Plus he was very soft. I saw that he has a lot of hits this season and that really surprised me.


                          He's been good on a pair with Slater Koekkoek. I think we aught to trade him this summer because we have De Hann and prospects coming back, but he has been a great number 4-5 LHD man.
                          12 févr. 2020 à 15 h 46
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                          Quoting: Yojimbo
                          Do you think that Johnson plays bad because:
                          He spends 42% of his time with Letang, who constantly makes bad decisions and is out of place defensively leaving Johnson hanging out to dry? (Shot at Letang)
                          He spends 19% of his time with Marino who lacks experience and chases, putting himself out of position defensively leaving Johnson hanging out to dry? (Not a shot at Marino)
                          He spends 12% of his time with Schultz who tries to create offense and is often out of position defensively leaving Johnson hanging out to dry? (Similar shot as Letang, just lesser)

                          Like the 3-on-1 that Johnson faced the other day and everyone blamed Johnson for the goal?

                          I'm not saying that he is good, but the "it's Johnson's fault" thing has jumped the shark.


                          No, when Letang or Schultz get caught out of position or make a bad pinch that results in a scoring chance against, I have no problem blaming them. The issue with Johnson is that he can't defend against players 1v1. He gets walked around so easily because he doesn't have the speed or agility to keep up with them. We saw it happen several times against the Avs when he was up against MacKinnon as well as the last 2 meetings vs Point and the Lightning. He gets undressed so often by the other team's opposing players which results in a scoring chance or extended offensive zone time. And when he gets the puck he is not capable of moving it up the ice because he's a poor skater and has slow reactions. By the time he is ready to break out the opponent is already pressuring him on the forecheck and he's got no where to go.
                          12 févr. 2020 à 15 h 48
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                          Quoting: tkecanuck341
                          As a Kings fan, I wouldn't do that Kings trade even if nothing was going back to Pittsburgh.


                          I'm not surprised.
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                          Quoting: Stan_Bowman
                          He's been good on a pair with Slater Koekkoek. I think we aught to trade him this summer because we have De Hann and prospects coming back, but he has been a great number 4-5 LHD man.


                          I oughta think the Hawks would command a big return, but Pens can't afford to take him cuz he's making 4 million and has term.
                          12 févr. 2020 à 15 h 55
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                          Quoting: Boomer125
                          Have you tried a pylon? There like 8 bucks on Amazon and don't count against the cap


                          That's what JJ literally is. If the Pens are going with him on the top pairing, he's going to get embarassed by the likes of Barzal, Ovechkin and Marchand!
                          12 févr. 2020 à 15 h 56
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                          Detroit would probably take a 5th for Daley and retain some salary as well.
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                          Quoting: MikeyThePensFan
                          That's what JJ literally is. If the Pens are going with him on the top pairing, he's going to get embarassed by the likes of Barzal, Ovechkin and Marchand!


                          Try sending him to the Habs, they are desperate for a LHD
                          12 févr. 2020 à 16 h 1
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                          Quoting: MikeyThePensFan
                          That's what JJ literally is. If the Pens are going with him on the top pairing, he's going to get embarassed by the likes of Barzal, Ovechkin and Marchand!


                          I wouldn't be be to concerned with the Islanders they can't score and up against the pens offence Islanders won't stand a chance
                          12 févr. 2020 à 16 h 2
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                          Quoting: MikeyThePensFan
                          I oughta think the Hawks would command a big return, but Pens can't afford to take him cuz he's making 4 million and has term.


                          Yeah, I wouldn't expect anything too big, but a pick would be nice. If Dehann decides to retire, then he is welcome to stay.
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                          Quoting: MikeyThePensFan
                          No, when Letang or Schultz get caught out of position or make a bad pinch that results in a scoring chance against, I have no problem blaming them. The issue with Johnson is that he can't defend against players 1v1. He gets walked around so easily because he doesn't have the speed or agility to keep up with them. We saw it happen several times against the Avs when he was up against MacKinnon as well as the last 2 meetings vs Point and the Lightning. He gets undressed so often by the other team's opposing players which results in a scoring chance or extended offensive zone time. And when he gets the puck he is not capable of moving it up the ice because he's a poor skater and has slow reactions. By the time he is ready to break out the opponent is already pressuring him on the forecheck and he's got no where to go.


                          90% of the leagues defenders get undressed by MacKinnon and point. He is much better suited on the 3rd pairing. But for a large portion of the season he has been on the top pair of a team that is 4th best in the entire league with games in hand on the three teams ahead of them. That is by far the most important and telling stat of them all.
                          12 févr. 2020 à 16 h 16
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                          Quoting: MikeyThePensFan
                          That's what JJ literally is. If the Pens are going with him on the top pairing, he's going to get embarassed by the likes of Barzal, Ovechkin and Marchand!


                          Correct. Jack Johnson is so bad that he is the only defender to ever get burned by Alex ovechkin.
                          12 févr. 2020 à 16 h 37
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                          Quoting: DonkeyLips
                          90% of the leagues defenders get undressed by MacKinnon and point. He is much better suited on the 3rd pairing. But for a large portion of the season he has been on the top pair of a team that is 4th best in the entire league with games in hand on the three teams ahead of them. That is by far the most important and telling stat of them all.


                          Sure, the Penguins have been winning games. But they've been getting heavily outplayed giving up tons of shots and scoring chances every game since Johnson has been put on the top pairing. That is simply not good enough. Even if he gets put on the third pair, him and Schultz has been historically bad together.
                          12 févr. 2020 à 16 h 38
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                          Quoting: Stan_Bowman
                          Yeah, I wouldn't expect anything too big, but a pick would be nice. If Dehann decides to retire, then he is welcome to stay.


                          I really wanted the Pens to sign De Haan instead of Johnson in 2018. Even though he costed more but it seems like he is having injury problems anyway. We wish him the best.
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                          Quoting: Boomer125
                          I wouldn't be be to concerned with the Islanders they can't score and up against the pens offence Islanders won't stand a chance


                          I don't know man. I don't think the Penguins stand a chance against any team right now.
                           
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