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You can stop the bad offers now

Créé par: BLIvingston33
Date de création initiale: fév 11, 2020
Publié: Feb 11 at 8:47 pm
Équipe: 2019-20 Wild du Minnesota
Explications
The Wild are seeking a top-line center in exchange for either blue-liner (Dumba or Brodin) according to Dreger. He adds that Minnesota would seek an additional asset from a team offering a second-line center.
Rachats de contrats
  • Tyler Ennis: 1 216 667 $
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Koivu, Mikko
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Zuccarello, Mats
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Staal, Eric
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Kunin, Luke
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Foligno, Marcus
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Hartman, Ryan
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Suter, Ryan
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UFA - 6
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Dumba, Matt
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UFA - 4
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Dubnyk, Devan
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Brodin, Jonas
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Stalock, Alex
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11 fév à 20 h 48
#1
Hugh Hefner of CF
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Dreger is an idiot.
Dont believe his BS.
11 fév à 20 h 49
#2
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Quoting: Trickster
Dreger is an idiot.
Dont believe his BS.


Wild beat reporter Michael Russo also said it, before Dreger
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11 fév à 20 h 51
#3
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"Seeking" doesn't mean "will receive" .. learn some English.
11 fév à 20 h 52
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Quoting: Ryminister_27
"Seeking" doesn't mean "will receive" .. learn some English.


Then they don’t get traded, no big deal.
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11 fév à 20 h 53
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Quoting: BLIvingston33
Then they don’t get traded, no big deal.


With Minnesota in serious need of a rebuild, I'd out good money on them being moved and for less than a top line centre. Neither have proved they're worth it
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11 fév à 20 h 54
#6
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2x1sts, a 2nd + an extended Haula and Edmundson for both Dumba and Brodin.
11 fév à 20 h 55
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Quoting: Ryminister_27
With Minnesota in serious need of a rebuild, I'd out good money on them being moved and for less than a top line centre. Neither have proved they're worth it


They aren’t going to enter a full rebuild while Leipold owns the team. Brodin and Dumba are more valuable to the Wild than a second line winger would be.
11 fév à 20 h 56
#8
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Quoting: Caniac555
2x1sts, a 2nd + an extended Haula and Edmundson for both Dumba and Brodin.


This is like the best offer I’ve seen ever on this site lol, I’d probably do it
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11 fév à 20 h 59
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Quoting: Caniac555
2x1sts, a 2nd + an extended Haula and Edmundson for both Dumba and Brodin.


Not a bad offer but my guess is we only trade one, not both. I think one of them is destined to go to Carolina though. Our beat writer wrote today that Guerin has some intriguing offers for Dumba and I'd bet one of them is by Carolina. I'll post the quote in a minute

Edit: "It will be interesting to see where Guerin goes from here because multiple sources tell The Athletic that there are teams that continue to pursue defensemen Matt Dumba and Jonas Brodin and that Guerin has been offered some potentially intriguing pieces for Dumba". Reason I'm guessing there's an offer from Carolina is that Russo has been reporting that Carolina is interested in both Brodin and Dumba for a few weeks now (and as recently as a few days ago). Wonder what the offers are...
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11 fév à 20 h 59
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I'm assuming they are looking more at future 1c's not current. Teams don't trade there 1c unless they are aging and rebuilding which the aging wouldn't interest the Wild. So yeah I think the Wild can get a future 1c for Brodin or Dumba.
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11 fév à 21 h 01
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Quoting: Paul13
I'm assuming they are looking more at future 1c's not current. Teams don't trade there 1c unless they are aging and rebuilding which the aging wouldn't interest the Wild. So yeah I think the Wild can get a future 1c for Brodin or Dumba.


There are some teams that are loaded at center though. Domi is one guy I could see potentially working.
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11 fév à 21 h 02
#12
Not a burger anymore
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Dumba for Rakell awesome face
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11 fév à 21 h 02
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Seattle is thinking heck yes! We get Dumba or Brodin for free!!!!

Quoting: BLIvingston33
Then they don’t get traded, no big deal.
11 fév à 21 h 03
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Quoting: BurgerBoss
Dumba for Rakell awesome face


Isn't Rakell more of a winger though? Honestly asking, haven't payed much attention to him the past couple years
11 fév à 21 h 06
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Quoting: Ajp_18
Seattle is thinking heck yes! We get Dumba or Brodin for free!!!!


Brodin is a UFA by then, they’ll get Soucy free possibly
11 fév à 21 h 09
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The wild are not letting guys go for nothing. Nor will they make a reaction trade of accepting "the best offer" if it is a bad offer. Teams always run into a need. That's what got Zucker's value up. Same thing will happen with Brodin and/or Dumba. There's still time on the clock. There's no rush.
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11 fév à 21 h 09
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Quoting: BLIvingston33
There are some teams that are loaded at center though. Domi is one guy I could see potentially working.


Honestly not a fan of Domi I am really hoping for a guy like dylan Strome, but i doubt its likely.
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11 fév à 21 h 15
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Quoting: Wqrrior
The wild are not letting guys go for nothing. Nor will they make a reaction trade of accepting "the best offer" if it is a bad offer. Teams always run into a need. That's what got Zucker's value up. Same thing will happen with Brodin and/or Dumba. There's still time on the clock. There's no rush.


Yep, the thing people here don't get is they don't need to move either player right now. Brodin can have his contract expire with a handshake agreement to sign again after the expansion draft is over and Dumba has a few years left for Guerin to find a better deal. For the people saying there won't be, the first offer for Zucker was Calgary offering a 1st and Frolik last year, so yeah... hold out until a better offer comes along. lol
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11 fév à 21 h 18
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Quoting: JayTea
Yep, the thing people here don't get is they don't need to move either player right now. Brodin can have his contract expire with a handshake agreement to sign again after the expansion draft is over and Dumba has a few years left for Guerin to find a better deal. For the people saying there won't be, the first offer for Zucker was Calgary offering a 1st and Frolik last year, so yeah... hold out until a better offer comes along. lol


People act like trades like Larsson for Hall never happen
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11 fév à 21 h 18
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Quoting: BLIvingston33
People act like trades like Larsson for Hall never happen


Forsberg for Erat is worse imo.
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11 fév à 21 h 23
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Quoting: TanSor
Isn't Rakell more of a winger though? Honestly asking, haven't payed much attention to him the past couple years


Think he plays at wing for the Ducks since they have more profilic centers in the team, but Rakell could be able to play C just as well if necessary. He's just better at wing than Getzlaf, Henrique, Steel etc.
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11 fév à 21 h 26
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Quoting: BLIvingston33
People act like trades like Larsson for Hall never happen


ah yes so why not assume that it does happen rather than the more likely case of a at-value trade.

all i gotta do is shout kase for brodin and watch ducks fans blow this up
11 fév à 21 h 27
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Quoting: BLIvingston33
People act like trades like Larsson for Hall never happen


Quoting: JayTea
Forsberg for Erat is worse imo.


I wouldn't get your hopes up. But sometimes Duchene trades do happen
11 fév à 21 h 51
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Quoting: BLIvingston33
They aren’t going to enter a full rebuild while Leipold owns the team. Brodin and Dumba are more valuable to the Wild than a second line winger would be.


They moved Zucker already and are listening to offers on 2 of their top d-man.. pretty sure that's signalling they're getting ready for a rebuild. You don't trade your best players and expect to contend for multiple years.

Do you think 35 year old Eric Staal is gonna lead this team for the next 5-10 years? Doubtful. A rebuild is needed in Minnesota.
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11 fév à 21 h 54
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Quoting: Paul13
Honestly not a fan of Domi I am really hoping for a guy like dylan Strome, but i doubt its likely.



This Hawk fan would trade Strome for Dumba
 
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