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Ducks trade

Créé par: Jdubs44
Équipe: 2019-20 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 11 févr. 2020
Publié: 11 févr. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $72 353 568 $0 $470 000 $9 146 432 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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11 634 000 $11 634 000 $
C
UFA - 5
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10 893 000 $10 893 000 $
AD
UFA - 6
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1 498 925 $1 498 925 $
AG
UFA - 2
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11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 6
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6 962 366 $6 962 366 $
AD
UFA - 5
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800 000 $800 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AG, C, AD
UFA - 4
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925 000 $925 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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700 000 $700 000 $
C, AD
NTC
UFA - 1
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3 200 000 $3 200 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
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700 000 $700 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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2 050 000 $2 050 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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863 333 $863 333 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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675 000 $675 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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894 167 $894 167 $
DG
UFA - 3
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
DD
RFA - 3
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675 000 $675 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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700 000 $700 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
AD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
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694 444 $694 444 $ (Bonis de performance70 000 $$70K)
AG
UFA - 1
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5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
AD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
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675 000 $675 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
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925 000 $925 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1

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11 févr. 2020 à 15 h 42
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Nope
11 févr. 2020 à 15 h 43
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Nope


What do you know anyway
11 févr. 2020 à 15 h 45
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Dermott instead of Kerfoot. And prolly need a second + good prospect of first + meh prospect
11 févr. 2020 à 15 h 45
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2 valuable pieces for 3 pieces Toronto fans trade in every acgm.

If you're getting something you have to give something, Manson probably costs you liljegren or at very least higher picks
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11 févr. 2020 à 15 h 45
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Ik ducks say no but thank goodness, someone who understands we don't need more forwards

@swinny thinks we need more forwards because it can open up cap for a defenseman. If he had a brain if you want to bring a defenseman you should trade a forward for a defenseman
11 févr. 2020 à 15 h 47
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What do you know anyway


I know that the Ducks need RHD. Not A LHD and second and third liners
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11 févr. 2020 à 16 h 0
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I know that the Ducks need RHD. Not A LHD and second and third liners


I didn’t have a d in the trade but I fixed it and added one this is fair
11 févr. 2020 à 16 h 2
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Quoting: JeffW
2 valuable pieces for 3 pieces Toronto fans trade in every acgm.

If you're getting something you have to give something, Manson probably costs you liljegren or at very least higher picks


Yes because a cost controlled top 6 forward that plays in all situations and a 60 point DMan making 2 mill and a PP specialist that's young enough to only get better isn't valuable...
11 févr. 2020 à 16 h 4
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I can't wait for the deadline to pass so we can stop hearing about how Manson is going to cost a top prospect, a 1st round pick and a roster player or two because he's so amazing.
11 févr. 2020 à 16 h 7
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I didn’t have a d in the trade but I fixed it and added one this is fair


That’s a better trade.
11 févr. 2020 à 16 h 13
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Ik ducks say no but thank goodness, someone who understands we don't need more forwards

@swinny thinks we need more forwards because it can open up cap for a defenseman. If he had a brain if you want to bring a defenseman you should trade a forward for a defenseman


Dude, shinny knows what he's talking about
11 févr. 2020 à 16 h 16
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Dude, shinny knows what he's talking about


I appreciate the support @Sign_em_up000000. Unfortunately, I have my detractors!

Should check out the banter we have going on here!
https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/306112&post_id=1282862

You're input would be appreciated!
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11 févr. 2020 à 16 h 34
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I appreciate the support @Sign_em_up000000. Unfortunately, I have my detractors!

Should check out the banter we have going on here!
https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/306112&post_id=1282862

You're input would be appreciated!


LOl Your the first person who seems happy after receiving a like. And just for facts I have actually added him to my ignore list a while ago because of reasons
lol "lets trade for a 3rd line centre otherwise our team is going to suck"
11 févr. 2020 à 16 h 36
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I appreciate the support @Sign_em_up000000. Unfortunately, I have my detractors!

Should check out the banter we have going on here!
https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/306112&post_id=1282862

You're input would be appreciated!


Well I decided to take him of to see his points
11 févr. 2020 à 16 h 40
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Yes because a cost controlled top 6 forward that plays in all situations and a 60 point DMan making 2 mill and a PP specialist that's young enough to only get better isn't valuable...


1. Hes edited the trade from the original
2. Johnsson got 65 pts collectively over let's say 1.5 seasons not to mention his numbers got a boost from the linemates he had in Toronto under babcock he wouldnt have in Anaheim.
3. Looking at the edited trade with barrie, unless hes resigned before the trade holds negative value as the ducks are already out of the playoff picture and have little use for a 60 pt pp specialist UFA on the golf course
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11 févr. 2020 à 17 h 10
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I know an appreciable segment of Leafs Nation doesn't like hearing this, but from Anaheim's perspective, the return from a Manson trade should be near the return from the Muzzin trade.

Manson is younger and signed for an additional year, but Muzzin is better on the ice. However, the Kings could afford to trade Muzzin (because they were going nowhere) and the Ducks have pretentions towards becoming relevant in 2021-2022, so they are less able to bear the loss of Manson.

So Anaheim fans want the equivalent of a first (Bjornfot = Liljegren), a near-NHL prospect (Grundstrom = Robertson), and someone off the Reserve List (Durzi = Kokkonen). That seems fair to us.

And sometimes the opposing team's fan base is right -- see the recent Zucker trade and go back though all the Minnesota fans' comments about the return other ACGM's were offering for him.
11 févr. 2020 à 17 h 50
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I appreciate the support @Sign_em_up000000. Unfortunately, I have my detractors!

Should check out the banter we have going on here!
https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/306112&post_id=1282862

You're input would be appreciated!


I really like the NJ deal for both teams and the only thing I would say about the hawks deal is the black hawk fans that I've talked to would want Kapanen over Mango. I really like those trades tho, there simple and exactly what we need. You are definitely right in your argument with him.
11 févr. 2020 à 17 h 51
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LOl Your the first person who seems happy after receiving a like. And just for facts I have actually added him to my ignore list a while ago because of reasons
lol "lets trade for a 3rd line centre otherwise our team is going to suck"


What reasons?
11 févr. 2020 à 17 h 51
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Well I decided to take him of to see his points


And what was your previous handle?
11 févr. 2020 à 18 h 4
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What reasons?


Previous ones
11 févr. 2020 à 18 h 10
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Previous ones


What previous reasons?
11 févr. 2020 à 18 h 47
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What previous reasons?


Il see if I could find it
11 févr. 2020 à 19 h 0
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I really like the NJ deal for both teams and the only thing I would say about the hawks deal is the black hawk fans that I've talked to would want Kapanen over Mango. I really like those trades tho, there simple and exactly what we need. You are definitely right in your argument with him.


Thanks?. The Jersey deal seems really is just a good hockey deal in the long run I think. I would not be opposed to moving Kappy there. Seems the left side is suddenly the stronger of the two, but whether Mango or Kappy, the point is a guy like Murphy is what the doc ordered.
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11 févr. 2020 à 19 h 8
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LOl Your the first person who seems happy after receiving a like. And just for facts I have actually added him to my ignore list a while ago because of reasons
lol "lets trade for a 3rd line centre otherwise our team is going to suck"


It's called appreciating constructive feedback for one.

Secondly, outside support telling you I know my stuff deserves the shout out.

It how one builds a rapport with fellow members of the site. @sign_em_up000000, grasshopper has much to learn.?
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11 févr. 2020 à 19 h 10
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It's called appreciating constructive feedback for one.

Secondly, outside support telling you I know my stuff deserves the shout out.

It how one builds a rapport with fellow members of the site. @sign_em_up000000, grasshopper has much to learn.?


ok got it anything else you would like to brag about?
 
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