The only deal that interests me would be the COL deal with Timmins + Newhook + 1st. The rest all just seem "meh" to me, especially that BOS deal.
Quoting: slapshot723
The Isles trade is something they would definitely do. Rakell would be an incredible fit with NYI. But, if you want to emulate the Zucker trade a bit more, you'll have to take a little salary also (similar to Galchenyuk).
Would the Ducks do Wilde, Hickey, 1st, 3rd for Rakell and Del Zotto?
No they wouldn't. Zucker just got picked up for more than that and Rakell is better, younger and on a cheaper contract. IMO, any deal for Rakell with NYI would need to contain Dobson. We need a RHD prospect and a good one. Wilde just seems so "meh".
Quoting: macca2119
Re: Avalanche - I think they would LOVE Rackell. Perfect fit / has term.
I don't see them moving either of the prospects mentioned, much less both. While Addison might have been PIT's #1 prospect, he was barely a top 100 overall prospect (
https://thehockeywriters.com/nhl-top-100-prospects-ranking/ is a good starting point). Addison was ranked basically the same as either Kaut or Timmons, while Newhook was top-25.
Additionally, I think that PIT had to overpay a little because MIN had to take back Galchenyuk's salary.
I think that a realistic COL trade would be:
2020 First
Tyson Jost
Drew Hellison
Perhaps a little more if ANA took the 2021 1st instead as the Avs don't have a 2020 2nd.
That's awful for ANA. I don't mind swapping Timmins for Helleson, but Jost doesn't do it for me. The kid hasn't improved at all over the past 3 seasons and looks set to be a bottom 6er. Newhook would have to be included for me otherwise we might as well just keep Rakell. You can't expect to add a 30 goal scorer in his prime years and on a sweetheart deal and keep all your juicy prospects. You have to sacrifice the future for the now. If you're not willing to do that than fine that's your decision.
Quoting: Foppa21
Timmins is turning into a stud and will likely be with the team next year, if not this year for the playoffs. He's also more than likely going to take over for big Z when he's selected by Seattle in the expansion draft.
Newhook is also probably off the table. Kid's lighting it up right now.
Addison is nowhere near either of them, so the comparison is off.
@macca2119 's proposal of 2020 1st + Jost + Hellison is more in line with the Zucker trade
Everyone thinks their prospects are the best. Addison is absolutely in the same league as Timmins, but without all the injury concerns. Like I said above, I think swapping Timmins for Helleson is fine, but Jost is a bottom 6er and does nothing for us. The deal would have to include Newhook for me.
Helleson + Newhook + 1st <----> Rakell
You're getting a 30 goal scorer in his prime years and on a sweetheart contract. That's going to cost you a bunch of futures. Even so, you're still sitting pretty with Byram, Timmins, Kaut... still a tonne of good youth players coming through in COL and Rakell will be with you for a long time and fits in the right age as your core.
Quoting: slapshot723
I think Bellows has finally shown some promise and might be off the table (at least for now). If we do Wilde, Ho-Sang, Hickey, 1st, and 2nd for Rakell and Del Zotto, that's something I'd do.
I'd pass. Would need a better RHD prospect for me. We don't need Ho-Sang either.