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(MIN/PIT) - Zucker for Galchenyuk, Addison, 2020 1st round pick

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10 févr. 2020 à 20 h 51
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Dumba is much more physical but I agree with the rest. I still don’t see it as a good fit but don’t want to trash him too hard in case we do get him lol.


I trashed Barrie before the trade and was right. I let myself buy into the Ave's fans hype when it happened. We must ignore the siren call of the fan bases. Numbers are eternal!
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10 févr. 2020 à 20 h 51
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All because Kessel wouldn't waive NTC.
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10 févr. 2020 à 20 h 51
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Not even any retention on Zucker? Guerin gets a HUGE win on his first trade.
10 févr. 2020 à 20 h 52
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Wow, this is a haul. Good news for sellers!
10 févr. 2020 à 20 h 56
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Addison is a lot. But he won't be helpful for another 2-3 years. Getting John Marino really made him expendable.

The first is a late first. Zucker is one of the more underrated players in the league. Galchenyuk is extremely bad. So I'll take it, even though I would have preferred they give up POJ instead of Addison.
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10 févr. 2020 à 21 h 6
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I feel violated
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10 févr. 2020 à 21 h 8
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This is a fair trade imo. If Zucker was a rental this would be a huge overpay but Zucker has three years after this year. Pittsburgh is in their window and have committed to trying to win as long as Crosby & Malkin are going strong. They just traded for help for 3 1/2 years.

It's a strong draft, but it will be a late first. Pitt's D-core seems pretty good with Dumo/Marino/Pettersson/Letang. Even with Shultz walking and the JJ anchor they should be fine.
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10 févr. 2020 à 21 h 11
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I feel violated


Wait 10 games when all of these people that have never watched Zucker but thought that the Pens should (grossly) overpay for him because clickbait bloggers said that he was good.. actually see him play and realize the truth.

Second most over rated player in rumors this TDL behind Athanasiou. The word "invisable" will float through Pens fans minds.
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10 févr. 2020 à 21 h 11
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POJ is already gone lol


No?
10 févr. 2020 à 21 h 11
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10 févr. 2020 à 21 h 15
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No?


My bad mixed the Gally trade up
10 févr. 2020 à 21 h 17
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Pitt paid a lot for Zucker but I understand why and I also think Zucker will fit in very nicely with the Pens. Zucker wasn’t going to come cheap.
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10 févr. 2020 à 21 h 21
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Pitt paid a lot for Zucker but I understand why and I also think Zucker will fit in very nicely with the Pens. Zucker wasn’t going to come cheap.


Zucker for the next few seasons is better than Kreider for just one.
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10 févr. 2020 à 21 h 22
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All because Kessel wouldn't waive NTC.


I mean come on. This is a guy who put hotdogs in the Stanley cup to troll people. Did you expect different? I don't hate Phil for it. At least he sticks up for himself.

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Wait 10 games when all of these people that have never watched Zucker but thought that the Pens should (grossly) overpay for him because clickbait bloggers said that he was good.. actually see him play and realize the truth.

Second most over rated player in rumors this TDL behind Athanasiou. The word "invisable" will float through Pens fans minds.


yeah I mean really isn't that the thing just floating around in everyone's mind right now.
Here is the thing. Dec 20, 2019. That's when he broke his ankle.
It takes roughly a year. Remember Bonino's 1st year back from a break. It was ugly.
So maybe he bounces back next year. I don't know. But this will be kicking everyone.
I still think it's an over pay. But we'll see.
10 févr. 2020 à 21 h 23
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Wow this is real. Nice job Guerin. I'll miss Zucker but it's a nice package. I know it seems like a lot to give up for Pittsburg fans but you will love Zucker.
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10 févr. 2020 à 21 h 24
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Seems like a fair deal to me. Gally's value is low and hes a pending UFA. Zucker since 2017 has a G/GP that puts him at 26 goals over 82 games and around 55pts. Signed for multiple years at a decent hit and a should see his number increase playing with Crosby. 1st + top prospect sounds about right.
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10 févr. 2020 à 21 h 24
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Zucker for the next few seasons is better than Kreider for just one.


I’d take Zucker over Kreider even if it was just one season. He takes care of his own zone as well as score goals, more well rounded player than Kreider.
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10 févr. 2020 à 21 h 30
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Holy ****.

Bergevin should 100% trade Tatar this season if teams are willing to overpay by this much.


Similar players but Zucker has 2 more years on his contract. Dont get too much excited, as the return would not be as high..
10 févr. 2020 à 21 h 30
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Similar players but Zucker has 2 more years on his contract. Dont get excited too much..


Not even close to similar players. Tatar is twice the player.
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10 févr. 2020 à 21 h 36
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Not even close to similar players. Tatar is twice the player.


Ugh. Chauvinist. ?
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10 févr. 2020 à 21 h 36
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I’d take Zucker over Kreider even if it was just one season. He takes care of his own zone as well as score goals, more well rounded player than Kreider.


Yeah, he is a better defensive player. But Kreider is bigger/faster and good in front of the net. Both are very good. I'm just happy that the Pens got the one with term.
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10 févr. 2020 à 21 h 37
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Not even close to similar players. Tatar is twice the player.


False.
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10 févr. 2020 à 21 h 37
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Quoting: Yojimbo
Wait 10 games when all of these people that have never watched Zucker but thought that the Pens should (grossly) overpay for him because clickbait bloggers said that he was good.. actually see him play and realize the truth.

Second most over rated player in rumors this TDL behind Athanasiou. The word "invisable" will float through Pens fans minds.


Ive watched almost every MIN game since he came back from injury and he just hasn't looked the same to me... His quickness just hasn't been there IMO
Maybe he wanted out of MIN or something but we def over payed big time
10 févr. 2020 à 21 h 41
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Good lord, I never expected a 1st AND Addison. Wonder if that means Dumba is gone...


I think since Addison likely isn't ready yet, Guerin is just getting a guy in the system in hopes of selling high on Dumba next year or as soon as he gets a offer to good to refuse.
Best part of this deal it shows us Guerin is a better negotiator than any of the previous 3 Wild GMs.
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10 févr. 2020 à 21 h 43
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Not even close to similar players. Tatar is twice the player.


Tatar is good but to say he is “twice the player” is major overkill and a very homer statement that most wont take seriously.
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