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Créé par: GenXHockey
Équipe: 2019-20 Sharks de San Jose
Date de création initiale: 9 févr. 2020
Publié: 9 févr. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Clearly this is out to lunch and not very realistic. Would like to hear any suggestions/ Criticisms of the trades so I can change them around a bit.
Transactions
1.
SJS
  1. Mittelstadt, Casey
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (BUF)
BUF
  1. Couture, Logan
Détails additionnels:
Draft Trade
2.
SJS
  1. Stanley, Logan
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (WPG)
WPG
  1. Burns, Brent (2 000 000 $ retained)
3.
SJS
  1. Timmins, Conor
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (TOR)
4.
SJS
  1. Backes, David
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (BOS)
5.
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2020
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2021
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2022
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2881 500 000 $67 177 416 $660 750 $1 295 000 $14 322 584 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
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UFA - 4
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5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
C
UFA - 3
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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925 000 $925 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
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700 000 $700 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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700 000 $700 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG, C
RFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $
AD
RFA - 4
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG
NTC
UFA - 4
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925 000 $925 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
C, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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700 000 $700 000 $
C
UFA - 2
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
700 000 $700 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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763 333 $763 333 $ (Bonis de performance20 000 $$20K)
C, AD
RFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
DG/DD
NMC
UFA - 7
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10 000 000 $10 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 8
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5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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1 635 000 $1 635 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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960 000 $960 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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1 900 000 $1 900 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
DG
UFA - 3
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800 000 $800 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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675 000 $675 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
DG
RFA - 2
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
925 000 $925 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Islanders de New York
778 333 $778 333 $
DD
UFA - 4
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DG
UFA - 3

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9 févr. 2020 à 3 h 18
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Buffalo would likely need salary retained based on Couture’s age. We’d give you another 2nd however
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Buffalo would likely need salary retained based on Couture’s age. We’d give you another 2nd however


I’ve mentioned this trade before. Most sabres fans seem to be on board (or desperate lol) it is a low return for couture but based on his contract I think it is fair. San Jose would not be able to retain that long, especially since I have the burns contract retained.

I think you have about 3 years of great 2c and then the decline. Where he could be pushed to the wing beside cozens or down to 3c. I think couture could contribute to some great C depth even in his decline.

Clearly buffalo would need to make some other moves. But I think that is inevitable.
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9 févr. 2020 à 5 h 51
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I’ve mentioned this trade before. Most sabres fans seem to be on board (or desperate lol) it is a low return for couture but based on his contract I think it is fair. San Jose would not be able to retain that long, especially since I have the burns contract retained.

I think you have about 3 years of great 2c and then the decline. Where he could be pushed to the wing beside cozens or down to 3c. I think couture could contribute to some great C depth even in his decline.

Clearly buffalo would need to make some other moves. But I think that is inevitable.


I agree you can never have too many hard working, positive players in your locker room.
9 févr. 2020 à 8 h 57
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Buffalo would do that trade all day.

All these sabres fans worried about logan couture in 6 years, when we have sucked forever.

He is an excellent player and a dynamite playoff performer. In 3 years, 8 million will be the going rate for a 2C
9 févr. 2020 à 8 h 57
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Buffalo would likely need salary retained based on Couture’s age. We’d give you another 2nd however


no one is retaining for 7 years. get real.
9 févr. 2020 à 8 h 57
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The Isles trade is meant to be a joke?
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9 févr. 2020 à 8 h 58
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I’ve mentioned this trade before. Most sabres fans seem to be on board (or desperate lol) it is a low return for couture but based on his contract I think it is fair. San Jose would not be able to retain that long, especially since I have the burns contract retained.

I think you have about 3 years of great 2c and then the decline. Where he could be pushed to the wing beside cozens or down to 3c. I think couture could contribute to some great C depth even in his decline.

Clearly buffalo would need to make some other moves. But I think that is inevitable.


the trade is fine, an underpayment even.
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The Isles trade is meant to be a joke?


wrong karlsson perhaps?
9 févr. 2020 à 9 h 0
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
wrong karlsson perhaps?


Even if Eric that would be bad, and not needed as the Isles already have 4 RD on playing.
9 févr. 2020 à 9 h 11
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WTF IS THAT ISLES TRADE
9 févr. 2020 à 9 h 47
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Neither Boston nor Thornton would consider that.

If Boston uses a 1st to move Backes they add to it and bring back something of value to help them.

Thotnton is a healthy scratch for Boston, the only player in the lineup he might bump is Nordstrom who plays a PK role.

He is playing 15mins a game. 2 goals, 14 hits, under 50% faceoff, does not kill penalties. He’s a waste of a roster spot, might as well just call Backes up and give him that role.

I understand the logic of dumping Backes future cap hit having value. But not at the expense of a #1 pick for nothing. Unlike Leafs they are not backed into a corner, they do not have to move him, it would be helpful to, just not a necessity.

Backes a 1st and a couple of mid level prospects for Labanc. Then B’s are interested.
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9 févr. 2020 à 11 h 38
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WTF IS THAT ISLES TRADE


Quoting: Warrior24
The Isles trade is meant to be a joke?


8m pure cap dump for 3 years.

I may have gone a bit overboard but my idea was the islanders have 3 important rfa’s to sign and still want to add offensive depth.

Any suggestions on what you would be willing to give up?
9 févr. 2020 à 11 h 53
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Neither Boston nor Thornton would consider that.

If Boston uses a 1st to move Backes they add to it and bring back something of value to help them.

Thotnton is a healthy scratch for Boston, the only player in the lineup he might bump is Nordstrom who plays a PK role.

He is playing 15mins a game. 2 goals, 14 hits, under 50% faceoff, does not kill penalties. He’s a waste of a roster spot, might as well just call Backes up and give him that role.

I understand the logic of dumping Backes future cap hit having value. But not at the expense of a #1 pick for nothing. Unlike Leafs they ate not backed into a corner, they do not have to move him, it would be helpful to, just not a necessity.

Backes a 1st and a couple of mid level prospects for Labanc. Then B’s are interested.


That’s fair. Just wanted to give jumbo another shot at the cup. Backes gets back into the nhl to retain some dignity and the Boston 1st will be very late.
9 févr. 2020 à 12 h 4
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That’s fair. Just wanted to give jumbo another shot at the cup. Backes gets back into the nhl to retain some dignity and the Boston 1st will be very late.


Pasta was a late 1st. Carlo was an early 2nd. It’s not something you just piss away. Especially in a deep draft.

The other problem is after trading away the 1st the rest of the picks in 20 are off the table. So how do they bring in player they do need?
9 févr. 2020 à 12 h 8
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Pasta was a late 1st. Carlo was an early 2nd. It’s not something you just piss away. Especially in a deep draft.


Yes but it’s percentages and value. You can’t trade a 1st like it’s pasta and 2nd like it’s Carlo.
9 févr. 2020 à 12 h 53
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Yes but it’s percentages and value. You can’t trade a 1st like it’s pasta and 2nd like it’s Carlo.


True but you can’t just dismiss it because it’s a late first either. Heard so much of that lately and it’s lunacy.
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True but you can’t just dismiss it because it’s a late first either. Heard so much of that lately and it’s lunacy.


Nope, you’re right. Wasn’t trying to dismiss it. Just saying value wise to take on his cap hit. I really didn’t spend much time on the Boston Trade. Just a bad contract off the top of my head. The islanders I spent a bit more time with... that seems to have blown up in my face.

My plan was to get rid of bad contracts while it’s still possible (if it is) use cap space to take on bad deals while rebuilding and get some picks/prospects in return.
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Quoting: Jamiepo
8m pure cap dump for 3 years.

I may have gone a bit overboard but my idea was the islanders have 3 important rfa’s to sign and still want to add offensive depth.

Any suggestions on what you would be willing to give up?


First of all I woke up on the wrong side of the bed so sorry for the aggressive comment. Anyways, the isles don’t have too many primary trade chips we can afford to lose, so I’d rather trade them to get scoring rather than clear space. IMO, we should have enough cap space if we trade Leddy and buyout Leo. Ladd will probably hit LTIR anyway in the near future, and hickey might too, he’s had an injury a lot of the season and there’s been no word on him. As for the trade, isles aren’t gonna trade Wahlstrom, and I’d b reluctant to trade the first this year unless it’s for a guy with term (who’s good.) Wilde could be had, but if we traded for scoring he’s the guy we’d probably ship out. Hope this helped
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Quoting: Jamiepo
I’ve mentioned this trade before. Most sabres fans seem to be on board (or desperate lol) it is a low return for couture but based on his contract I think it is fair. San Jose would not be able to retain that long, especially since I have the burns contract retained.

I think you have about 3 years of great 2c and then the decline. Where he could be pushed to the wing beside cozens or down to 3c. I think couture could contribute to some great C depth even in his decline.

Clearly buffalo would need to make some other moves. But I think that is inevitable.


Here's a scenario, Buffalo has #10 Overall after the lottery.

10th Overall and Mitts for Couture; however it would depend on salary retention. I understand 7 years in a long time but 7 years at 8 mil is extremely risky and is just as likely to blow up in our faces.
9 févr. 2020 à 17 h 53
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Here's a scenario, Buffalo has #10 Overall after the lottery.

10th Overall and Mitts for Couture; however it would depend on salary retention. I understand 7 years in a long time but 7 years at 8 mil is extremely risky and is just as likely to blow up in our faces.


Nope, I don’t think either team should make that deal.
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10 févr. 2020 à 2 h 22
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Sabres would begrudgingly do that trade
I say begrudgingly bc Botts first ever draft pick was Mittelstadt,
and he probably thinks he will still work out for us

That said,
He’s gotta be under pressure to win next year for sure
So even though Couture is older than we’d probably i like,
I can’t see us passing him up
And i think we might even have to add another asset to make it happen
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