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Suzuki Calder Run Part Deux

Créé par: Billy739
Date de création initiale: 8 févr. 2020
Publié: 9 févr. 2020
Équipe: 2019-20 Canadiens de Montréal
Explications
Different direction this time just targeting Saad from CHI
They're likely to move him before his NTC in his final year makes their TDL in 2021 fun .

Byron @ 1.7m cap (to keep or flip),Middle 6 RFA,your 2nd round pick back this year (so a high pick lol) and a 3rd in 2022 that becomes a 2nd in 2021 if Saad wins a playoff round with MTL before the 2021 draft .

This is what i believe Saads value is factoring we cannot move him at the TDL in 2021 freely as he has a 10 team list he can be traded to in his final year.




Suzuki's up one spot to 3rd in the Rookie race just 5 points behind Hughes and 6 behind Makar it appears to be within striking distance as Suzuki since being moved to Center and having Kovalchuk on his win has 8 points in 7 games and still heating up .

It would be the first time since Dryden whom lead us to multiple championships as the cornerstone of our Dynasty.One can only hope Suzuki can have atleast half as much success
Transactions
1.
MTL
  1. Schneider, Cory (1 375 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
even cap , even term , even swap
NJD
  1. Alzner, Karl
Détails additionnels:
worst case scenario they switch AHL teams
best case 1/2 or both find a way back into the NHL in a supporting role position .
2.
MTL
  1. Saad, Brandon
  2. Laavainen, Roope [Liste de réserve]
Détails additionnels:
4.3m cap savings over 2 years allowing CHI to sign another player of value . CHI could turn around and Trade Byron immediately at the cap for a profit to another cap strapped team like TBL or EDM
CHI
  1. Byron, Paul (1 700 000 $ retained)
  2. Lehkonen, Artturi
  3. 2020 2e round pick (CHI)
  4. 2021 3e round pick (CHI)
Détails additionnels:
Byron @ 1.7m for 3 years after this season.
for a cash strapped team this will likely have value given his speed , his physicality despite his size , his leadership,is ability to get the pick deep in the OZ and his goal scoring ability

Youth stepped up quicker then expected and put MTL in a position where even Domi might go because he's in Suzuki and Kotkanemi's way .
Rachats de contrats
  • Steve Mason: 1 366 667 $
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Paul Byron: 1 700 000 $ (50%)
  • Marco Scandella: 2 000 000 $ (50%)
  • Brett Kulak: 925 000 $ (50%)
  • Ben Chiarot: 1 750 000 $ (50%)
  • Ilya Kovalchuk: 350 000 $ (50%)
Enfoui
  • Keith Kinkaid: 675 000 $ (1 750 000 $)
  • Matthew Peca: 225 000 $ (1 300 000 $)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2020
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Logo de ANA
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Logo de FLA
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Logo de CHI
2021
Logo de MTL
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Logo de OTT
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2022
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $79 468 809 $0 $850 000 $2 031 191 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de MTL
Tatar, Tomas
4 800 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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Danault, Phillip
3 083 333 $
C
UFA - 2
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Gallagher, Brendan
3 750 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
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Drouin, Jonathan
5 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
Logo de MTL
Domi, Max
3 150 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de MTL
Armia, Joel
2 600 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de CHI
Saad, Brandon
5 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de MTL
Suzuki, Nick
863 333 $
C
UFA - 3
Logo de MTL
Kovalchuk, Ilya
350 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de MTL
Cousins, Nick
1 000 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
Logo de MTL
Thompson, Nate
1 000 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de MTL
Evans, Jake
925 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de MTL
Weal, Jordan
1 400 000 $
C, AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de MTL
Weise, Dale
2 350 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de MTL
Chiarot, Ben
1 750 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de MTL
Weber, Shea
7 857 143 $
DD
UFA - 7
Logo de MTL
Price, Carey
10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de MTL
Mete, Victor
748 333 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
Logo de MTL
Petry, Jeff
5 500 000 $
DD
NMC NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de NJD
Schneider, Cory
4 625 000 $
G
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de MTL
Scandella, Marco
2 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de MTL
Folin, Christian
800 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de MTL
Kulak, Brett
925 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de MTL
Teasdale, Joël
763 333 $
AD, AG
RFA - 3

Unités spéciales

Avantage numérique 1
Saad, B.
Suzuki, N.
Kovalchuk, I.
Chiarot, B.
Weber, S.
Avantage numérique 2
Tatar, T.
Domi, M.
Gallagher, B.
Drouin, J.
Petry, J.

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9 févr. 2020 à 0 h 20
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So essentially doing Chicago a service by letting them trade Saad? He's clearly on his decline and with his contract, MTL would ask for a bigger price.

Byron might have a good value, but he's in the IR since Nov 15. No team would consider him ''playoff ready''.

Lekhonen is also a good middle 6 forward. MTL would be losers in this trade scenario.

I do like the Schneider trade tho...
9 févr. 2020 à 0 h 39
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So essentially doing Chicago a service by letting them trade Saad? He's clearly on his decline and with his contract, MTL would ask for a bigger price.

Byron might have a good value, but he's in the IR since Nov 15. No team would consider him ''playoff ready''.

Lekhonen is also a good middle 6 forward. MTL would be losers in this trade scenario.

I do like the Schneider trade tho...


15 goals . . . . . . . that has value , always has ... here's a secret ... it always will

you can always spot someone who looks at points only then jumps to conclusions but how much they spout off dramatically like they're revealing something shocking.


Also since when is Chicago '' playoff ready''

i'm done reading your comment it lacks reality
9 févr. 2020 à 12 h 5
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I've seen this Alzner for Schneider idea more than once and I feel like its been declined more than once.

1) Even at 1.375M retained, Habs are paying more actual money for Schneider than Alzner.
2) Having a cap dump as a dman is slightly more valuable than a goalie.
3) Heck even the buyout is cheaper overall for Alzner.
4) He'd be taking valuable playing time a way from Primeau and Lindgren.

Sure, the Habs have oodles of cap space and in the grand scheme of things it won't really change anything but it has to at least have a small benefit in some way for it to make sense. The best case scenario that could possibly happen is Schneider becomes Price's backup. How much you wiling to bet that would happen based on what you've seen from Kinkaid, Niemi, etc etc

Schneider will be 34 when this trade happens. The odds of this deal working out better than even whatever Alzner is giving Laval right now is so low that its basically no win chance trade. It makes more sense to buyout Alzner than to trade him for Schneider. The only scenario that COULD work is if NJD retain 50% on Schneider. Making his actual salary less than that of Alzners. But even than why would NJD want do that? Just to take a low percentage chance on Alzner? If that is your gain, might as well just bite the bullet and buyout the players.
9 févr. 2020 à 18 h 19
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Quoting: Billy739
15 goals . . . . . . . that has value , always has ... here's a secret ... it always will

you can always spot someone who looks at points only then jumps to conclusions but how much they spout off dramatically like they're revealing something shocking.

Also since when is Chicago '' playoff ready''

i'm done reading your comment it lacks reality


I look at points, sure. But also advanced analytics like Corsi, Fenwick and PDO.

Saad has drastically declined in both offensive production and defensive reliability in the last year.

He might have 15 goals right now, but you know who else almost does? Joel Armia (14G), who is getting paid way less than Saad, has more points and a better +/-

Would you trade Armia for the equivalent of the trade shown above? I don't think so...

Byron being playoff ready is a metaphor for any team currently hoping to make the playoffs. I wasn't refering to Chicago specificaly.

Reality is subjective, my dude.
10 févr. 2020 à 14 h 3
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I look at points, sure. But also advanced analytics like Corsi, Fenwick and PDO.

Saad has drastically declined in both offensive production and defensive reliability in the last year.

He might have 15 goals right now, but you know who else almost does? Joel Armia (14G), who is getting paid way less than Saad, has more points and a better +/-

Would you trade Armia for the equivalent of the trade shown above? I don't think so...

Byron being playoff ready is a metaphor for any team currently hoping to make the playoffs. I wasn't refering to Chicago specificaly.

Reality is subjective, my dude.


dude just stop

if you could admit when you were wrong and evolve like most of us on here i'd be open to debate .
but you're not you just make crap up hoping people dont notice the huge oversight you made in your comment that made it pointless.

Saad has negative Cori and Fenwick? no
you're trying to make it seem like that while ignoring its happened at the same rate to Kane and Toews making it a team problem

how i know you're full of crap is he's got higher advanced stats then Kane and Toews in their decline
do your research dont just glance at a stats page and assume its all on 1 player .... dont be lazy and prove it before spouting off


Reality is not up for debate
Your grasp on stats is however
Everyone knows you dont single out unless you see the systems play
if you had you'd see Saad leads his team in advance corsi and fenwick
10 févr. 2020 à 20 h 51
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Saad is definitely not on the decline at only 27. His stats are amazing as he's produced very good corsi and fenwick numbers on a poor Hawks team. Despite playing with average linemates he still scores consistently which amazes me. Watching him play I noticed he takes good shots too, not just weak wristers into the goalie's crest. I think this makes his corsi numbers better than they indicate. His PDO is also low which indicates with a little more luck his stats could be better. He's been so good that us Hawks fans contemplate trading Debrincat instead of Saad. Hope this clears things up.
 
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