Quoting: Ryminister_27
Lol. He plays on the 2nd PP unit mostly with Kerfoot, Kapanen, Spezza and then a rookie in Sandin. First part of the season it wasn't Sandin but it rotated between guys. That unit also might be lucky to even get 30 seconds of a PP. kinda hard to judge a guy off that.
& Johnsson is definitely first 1PP material in Edmonton. Johnsson is 10x the player Chaisson is and would easily take his spot on it. Not to mention that Johnsson is better than both of McDavid's current line mates of Sam Gagner and Josh Archibald.
Some things stats can't tell you. Try learning some hockey nerd.
Quoting: Ryminister_27
LOLOLOLOL ... so guys like Brendan Gallagher don't play the net front on the PP? .. Johnsson has played net front on the PP almost his entire career including AHL and in Sweden and he's produced fine because he's aggressive and has good hands in tight.
Maybe you should try actually watching and learning something yourself. ? goodbye.
A bunch of what you wrote is factually incorrect.
1)
(Johnsson) plays on the 2nd PP unit mostly with Kerfoot, Kapanen, Spezza and then a rookie in Sandin.
Incorrect. Johnsson's most common linemates at 5v4 this season: Matthews, Rielly, Marner, Tavares and Nylander, in that order. He's been with Matthews for 85% of his 5v4 TOI.
http://naturalstattrick.com/playerreport.php?fromseason=20192020&thruseason=20192020&stype=2&sit=5v4&stdoi=oi&rate=n&v=t&playerid=8477341
2)
Johnsson is definitely first 1PP material in Edmonton.
It's not a sure thing as you seem to think. He isn't better than McDavid, Draisaitl or Nugent-Hopkins. That leaves one spot, the one occupied by Neal (and, occasionally, Chiasson). He'd have to outscore those two to take that spot, which segue's nicely into your next point...
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Johnsson is 10x the player Chaisson is and would easily take his spot
Let's look at their 5v4 goal scoring rates, shall we?
Neal: 4.56 G/60 (144:34) - 2nd in the league behind only Pastrnak
Chiasson: 3.14 G/60 (95:34) - 14th in the league and ahead of all Leafs players not named Matthews
Johnsson: 2.14 G/60 (84:09) - 55th in the league, better than I thought but still significantly behind Chiasson and Neal
Here are the same three players listed by their point production at 5v4:
Chiasson: 6.91 P/60 - for reference, Tavares in 6.93 and Matthews is 6.33.
Neal: 6.64 P/60
Johnsson: 2.85 P/60
It looks like Johnsson doesn't get involved in the play unless its to put the puck in the net. In other words, he isn't a material contributor to Toronto's power play. And his scoring rates are much lower than either Chiasson or Neal post anyhow.
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Not to mention that Johnsson is better than both of McDavid's current line mates of Sam Gagner and Josh Archibald.
This might well be true, but if it is, why isn't he producing? Here are these players 5v5 scoring rates and their most common linemates.
Johnsson: 0.33 G/60 ... 1.53 P/60 (Matthews, Nylander)
Gagner: 0.50 G/60 ... 1.49 P/60 (Neal, Chiasson)
Archibald: 0.51 G/60 ... 1.03 P/60 (Sheahan, Khaira)
One of these is not like the others - and yet Johnsson has poorer goal scoring rates than the others. Lets look ONLY at their rates with the centers in question: Gagner and Archibald with McDavid, Johnsson with Matthews:
Archibald: 1.08 G/60 ... 2.17 P/60 (110:46 with McDavid, 23.7% of his total TOI)
Gagner: 0.97 G/60 ... 1.94 P/60 (61:55 with McDavid, 17.1%)
Johnsson: 0.42 G/60 ... 1.70 P/60 (423:55 with Matthews, 77.0%)
If Johnsson can't produce with Matthews, what makes you think he would next to McDavid? I don't think there's any evidence for that assertion. Maybe it would be hellpful to look at each of these players AWAY from their team's best center.
Gagner: 0.40 G/60 ... 1.40 P/60 (300:05 without McDavid)
Archibald: 0.34 G/60 ... 0.67 P/60 (357:15 without McDavid)
Johnsson: 0.00 G/60 ... 0.95 P/60 (126:41 without Matthews)
Yikes. None of these guys look particularly hot. Pretty sad that Johnsson isn't up to Sam Gagner's level of production. Most people consider Sam Gagner to be a cap dump / AHL player. Where does that leave Andreas Johnsson?