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Rakell trade

Créé par: Linlan
Date de création initiale: fév 7, 2020
Publié: Feb 7 at 7:25 am
Équipe: 2020-21 Rangers de New York
Explications
Bringing the Rakell-Zibanejad chemistry back
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANNÉESCAP HIT
Lemieux, Brendan31 800 000 $
Strome, Ryan45 250 000 $
Deangelo, Anthony65 500 000 $
Transactions
NYR
  1. Rakell, Rickard
ANA
  1. Robertson, Matthew
  2. Andersson, Lias
  3. 2021 1e round pick (NYR)
Détails additionnels:
1st becomes 2022 1st if NYR misses the playoffs
Rachats de contrats
  • Kevin Shattenkirk: 6 083 333 $
  • Dan Girardi: 1 111 111 $
  • Ryan Spooner: 300 000 $
  • Brad Richards: 0 $
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2020
NYR
NYR
DAL
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NSH
VAN
2021
NYR
NYR
BUF
NYR
OTT
NYR
NYR
NYR
2022
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
1883 500 000 $81 334 244 $0 $6 912 500 $2 165 756 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
ANA
Rakell, Rickard
3 789 444 $
C, AD, AG
UFA - 2
NYR
Zibanejad, Mika
5 350 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 2
NYR
Buchnevich, Pavel
3 250 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 1
NYR
Panarin, Artemi
11 642 857 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 6
NYR
Howden, Brett
863 333 $
C
RFA - 1
NYR
Kakko, Kaapo
925 000 $
AD
RFA - 2
NYR
Chytil, Filip
894 166 $
AG, C
RFA - 1
NYR
Strome, Ryan
5 250 000 $
C, AD
RFA
NYR
Lemieux, Brendan
1 800 000 $
AG, AD
RFA
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
NYR
Staal, Marc
5 700 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 1
NYR
Trouba, Jacob
8 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 6
NYR
Lundqvist, Henrik
8 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 1
NYR
Skjei, Brady
5 250 000 $
DG
UFA - 4
NYR
Smith, Brendan
4 350 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 1
NYR
Shesterkin, Igor
925 000 $
G
RFA - 1
NYR
Lindgren, Ryan
925 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
NYR
Fox, Adam
925 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
NYR
Deangelo, Anthony
5 500 000 $
DD
RFA

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7 fév à 7 h 34
#1
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Others teams would beat that package of RR became available
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7 fév à 7 h 50
#2
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Quoting: ON3M4N
Others teams would beat that package of RR became available


Not really. Rakell's had 2 good seasons which he was helped by his line mates. Realistically he's about a 20-25 goal scorer on a good contract for 2 more years after this one..

That's a damn good offer from New York and probably the price to pay. Slight overpayment but it'll take an overpayment to get a deal done. Doubt anyone would offer more than a 1st round pick, top prospect, and another very good prospect.
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7 fév à 7 h 51
#3
LongtimeLeafsufferer
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Rangers can't be adding cap next year. Those RFAs gotta be signed
7 fév à 7 h 56
#4
Démarrer sujet
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Quoting: palhal
Rangers can't be adding cap next year. Those RFAs gotta be signed


Added Lemieux, DeAngelo and Strome
Still under the cap and that with Staal, Smith and Lundqvist still on the roster
IMO DeAngelo and Georgiev will be gone and replaced with Lundkvist and Shesterkin leaving more then enough cap space for Rakell
7 fév à 8 h 03
#5
Subbanator
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The guy above is right, if Rakell became available another team would beat that offer.

He is a top 6 winger making under 4 million, a cap strapped team would pay a hefty price to get him while clearing some cap space.
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7 fév à 8 h 07
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Quoting: Ryminister_27
Not really. Rakell's had 2 good seasons which he was helped by his line mates. Realistically he's about a 20-25 goal scorer on a good contract for 2 more years after this one..

That's a damn good offer from New York and probably the price to pay. Slight overpayment but it'll take an overpayment to get a deal done. Doubt anyone would offer more than a 1st round pick, top prospect, and another very good prospect.


I don't seen a top prospect here tho, I don't know a ton about Matt Robertson, but I remember I wasn't high on him in his dear year (last year) and he's an LHD which the ducks have ZERO use for, and Lias will just be buried behind the ducks 50 other middle six prospects, you can remove both of them and the trade is probably viewed almost identically as it is now from ANA's perspective
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7 fév à 8 h 11
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Quoting: AFOX10900
I don't seen a top prospect here tho, I don't know a ton about Matt Robertson, but I remember I wasn't high on him in his dear year (last year) and he's an LHD which the ducks have ZERO use for, and Lias will just be buried behind the ducks 50 other middle six prospects, you can remove both of them and the trade is probably viewed almost identically as it is now from ANA's perspective


Andersson is the top prospect. & when a team like Anaheim is rebuilding, no good young player is of "ZERO use for". When you rebuild, you take the best offer available with the best talent. This offer would be hard to beat for that. You don't trade for positional or handedness needs when you rebuild, those kinda trades come when you're ready to compete
7 fév à 8 h 11
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Jph812
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Quoting: Ryminister_27
Not really. Rakell's had 2 good seasons which he was helped by his line mates. Realistically he's about a 20-25 goal scorer on a good contract for 2 more years after this one..

That's a damn good offer from New York and probably the price to pay. Slight overpayment but it'll take an overpayment to get a deal done. Doubt anyone would offer more than a 1st round pick, top prospect, and another very good prospect.


that's a first that could possibly be two years from now which doesn't have that much value, the earliest you're getting an impact player from that draft is probably five years from now. And Lias Andersson is not a top prospect anymore. The kid continuously fails to prove that he should have been drafted where he was. He barely produced in the AHL and did absolutely nothing in the NHL, the kid is a third liner at best. And the Ducks can get a Defensive prospect as good as Matthew Robertson anywhere. He is better than where he was drafted but its not like hes the next erik karlsson. You're definitely underpaying for Rakell
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7 fév à 8 h 14
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Quoting: Ryminister_27
Andersson is the top prospect. & when a team like Anaheim is rebuilding, no good young player is of "ZERO use for". When you rebuild, you take the best offer available with the best talent. This offer would be hard to beat for that. You don't trade for positional or handedness needs when you rebuild, those kinda trades come when you're ready to compete


Too bad I'd take any of Zegras Steel Kase Terry Lundestrom Comtois Rico Silf over him for the next 4.5 years, and maybe BOG...
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7 fév à 8 h 32
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Could easily see BOS or STL beat that offer.
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7 fév à 8 h 35
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Quoting: Ryminister_27
Not really. Rakell's had 2 good seasons which he was helped by his line mates. Realistically he's about a 20-25 goal scorer on a good contract for 2 more years after this one..

That's a damn good offer from New York and probably the price to pay. Slight overpayment but it'll take an overpayment to get a deal done. Doubt anyone would offer more than a 1st round pick, top prospect, and another very good prospect.


Yeah, Rakell only has 2 x 30 goal seasons and that was 2 years ago. He sucks now and so we’ll just keep him instead of trading him to NYR at a reduced rate. You’re welcome for saving you from his terrible play and goal scoring abilities.

Quoting: Ryminister_27
Andersson is the top prospect. & when a team like Anaheim is rebuilding, no good young player is of "ZERO use for". When you rebuild, you take the best offer available with the best talent. This offer would be hard to beat for that. You don't trade for positional or handedness needs when you rebuild, those kinda trades come when you're ready to compete


Andersson hasn’t progressed all that well since being drafted. For me his stock has fallen and isn’t a “top prospect” anymore. I’d pass. Too risky.
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Quoting: Ryminister_27
Not really. Rakell's had 2 good seasons which he was helped by his line mates. Realistically he's about a 20-25 goal scorer on a good contract for 2 more years after this one..

That's a damn good offer from New York and probably the price to pay. Slight overpayment but it'll take an overpayment to get a deal done. Doubt anyone would offer more than a 1st round pick, top prospect, and another very good prospect.


Andersson is not a top prospect and from a trade value perspective, he has as much as Pool Party at this point. BTW I could easily beat that package you're offering from a Boston standpoint.

1st + Danton Heinen + Axel Andersson

Heinen - young LW/RW with a career P/GP put him around 40pt for 82 games and is a responsible 200ft player
Andersson - RHD with good offensive upside current in his first NA season playing in the Q w/ 22pt in 39gp

and to be honest, I don't even know that I'd take that deal if I were ANH. If I were ANH I'd be trying to build around him and get him to sign an ext.
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7 fév à 8 h 43
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Quoting: ON3M4N
Andersson is not a top prospect and from a trade value perspective, he has as much as Pool Party at this point. BTW I could easily beat that package you're offering from a Boston standpoint.

1st + Danton Heinen + Axel Andersson

Heinen - young LW/RW with a career P/GP put him around 40pt for 82 games and is a responsible 200ft player
Andersson - RHD with good offensive upside current in his first NA season playing in the Q w/ 22pt in 39gp

and to be honest, I don't even know that I'd take that deal if I were ANH. If I were ANH I'd be trying to build around him and get him to sign an ext.


LOL Heinen is nothing more than a 3rd liner. Andersson is younger and will be better than him. Andersson definitely ya snore value and you could argue that Robertson and Axlesson have the same value. & a rebuilding team like Anaheim would without a doubt take the younger player in Andersson or Heinen. That offer doesn't beat this one
7 fév à 9 h 20
#14
DickFoligno
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Quoting: Subbanator7667
The guy above is right, if Rakell became available another team would beat that offer.

He is a top 6 winger making under 4 million, a cap strapped team would pay a hefty price to get him while clearing some cap space.


The price would be a first rounder, probably a second or third, an A prospect.

The offer above is ok, but someone else would best it given Rakell’s cap hit, versatility, age, and all around game and on pace for a 56 point season.

NY would have to offer a better prospect than Lias Andersson IMO. Andersson has struggled to produce in the AHL in North America let alone NHL.

You’d probably be better off offering Brett Howden, or a defense prospect
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7 fév à 14 h 07
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Quoting: Ryminister_27
LOL Heinen is nothing more than a 3rd liner. Andersson is younger and will be better than him. Andersson definitely ya snore value and you could argue that Robertson and Axlesson have the same value. & a rebuilding team like Anaheim would without a doubt take the younger player in Andersson or Heinen. That offer doesn't beat this one


Andersson showed nothing in the NHL and couldn't crack a roster that's is pretty meh. Heinen can actually play at the NHL level and does so for a cup contender.
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7 fév à 14 h 33
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Anaheim wouldn't, shouldn't and won't trade Rakell without getting a 2020 first.
8 fév à 8 h 25
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Quoting: Ryminister_27
LOL Heinen is nothing more than a 3rd liner. Andersson is younger and will be better than him. Andersson definitely ya snore value and you could argue that Robertson and Axlesson have the same value. & a rebuilding team like Anaheim would without a doubt take the younger player in Andersson or Heinen. That offer doesn't beat this one


Lias Andersson is going to be a 3rd to 4th liner his entire career if he even cracks and NHL lineup again. His foot speed is terrible and he doesn't have that much skill. Im failing to see how you think he could be some top six player in the future.
 
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