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Créé par: RobbStark03
Équipe: 2019-20 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 6 févr. 2020
Publié: 6 févr. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
1.
MTL
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (WPG)
WPG
  1. Scandella, Marco (2 000 000 $ retained)
2.
MTL
  1. Byfuglien, Dustin
Détails additionnels:
UFA Signing. Not correct cap hit.
WPG
3.
MTL
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2021 (VGK)
4.
MTL
  1. Gagner, Sam
  2. Nurse, Darnell
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (EDM)
5.
MTL
  1. Bracco, Jeremy
  2. Ceci, Cody
  3. Hutchinson, Michael
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (TOR)
  5. Choix de 6e ronde en 2020 (COL)
  6. Choix de 7e ronde en 2020 (WPG)
  7. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (TOR)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $77 909 642 $0 $1 002 500 $3 590 358 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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2 400 000 $2 400 000 $
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UFA - 2
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3 083 333 $3 083 333 $
C
UFA - 2
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3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
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UFA - 2
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
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3 150 000 $3 150 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
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842 500 $842 500 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
AD
UFA - 1
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
C
UFA - 3
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2 600 000 $2 600 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
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1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
C, AD, AG
UFA - 2
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
C
UFA - 1
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2 350 000 $2 350 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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3 200 000 $3 200 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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7 857 143 $7 857 143 $
DD
UFA - 7
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10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
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NMC
UFA - 7
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1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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7 600 000 $7 600 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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750 000 $750 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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748 333 $748 333 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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800 000 $800 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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763 333 $763 333 $ (Bonis de performance70 000 $$70K)
AD, AG
UFA - 3
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
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925 000 $925 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
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6 févr. 2020 à 8 h 4
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I don't see the point of trading Thompson. We don't have a better 4C option right now. He is having a positive impact on our young kids. And, we paid a 5th rd for him. So I don't see the point of asking a 5th in return. Unless a team is willing to overpay with a 3rd, than I keep him.
6 févr. 2020 à 8 h 7
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Quoting: john_michael
I don't see the point of trading Thompson. We don't have a better 4C option right now. He is having a positive impact on our young kids. And, we paid a 5th rd for him. So I don't see the point of asking a 5th in return. Unless a team is willing to overpay with a 3rd, than I keep him.


Fair point. And Habs have enough mid round picks. I heard rumours Caps are interested, but you are right, Habs shouldn't be in a hurry to trade him.
6 févr. 2020 à 8 h 9
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Once again it's slim to none of Dustin Byfuglien even playing this year, Montreal isn't making the playoffs anyways so no reason for Byfuglien to even sign there. And that's a joke if you think Tatar+Kovalchuk gets you Darnell Nurse try more like Domi if you want Nurse. These trades are all laugh
6 févr. 2020 à 8 h 9
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Edmonton block your number
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6 févr. 2020 à 8 h 29
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Horrid for the Leafs, I was onboard with Hutch and Ceci and a couple picks but not all of that (especially the 1st AND 2nd)
6 févr. 2020 à 8 h 34
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Horrid for the Leafs, I was onboard with Hutch and Ceci and a couple picks but not all of that (especially the 1st AND 2nd)


Hutch and Ceci are cap dumps... You aren't getting a top 4 RHD for cap dumps, sorry. The cost will be similar to Muzzins, likely more.
6 févr. 2020 à 8 h 37
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Hutch and Ceci are cap dumps... You aren't getting a top 4 RHD for cap dumps, sorry. The cost will be similar to Muzzins, likely more.


thats not the point, you threw 4 picks on top of three players, thats now an overpayment for the leafs
6 févr. 2020 à 8 h 40
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thats not the point, you threw 4 picks on top of three players, thats now an overpayment for the leafs


Those two players have negative value (hence, cap dump). Two of those picks are in the last 2 rounds. You are over valuing Quantity for Quality here. Bracco is highly overrated but anyone outside of Toronto, probably another Hudon (great AHLer, not an NHLer). Late 1st, Late 2nd, 2x Late Round picks, 2x cap dumps for your #1 RHD for this year and next
6 févr. 2020 à 8 h 44
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Quoting: RobbStark03
Those two players have negative value (hence, cap dump). Two of those picks are in the last 2 rounds. You are over valuing Quantity for Quality here. Bracco is highly overrated but anyone outside of Toronto, probably another Hudon (great AHLer, not an NHLer). Late 1st, Late 2nd, 2x Late Round picks, 2x cap dumps for your #1 RHD for this year and next


That's Fair, or the Leafs choose to call up Liljegren and/or explore UFA options this summer
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6 févr. 2020 à 8 h 44
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There's no way the Oilers do that.
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6 févr. 2020 à 8 h 51
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Once again it's slim to none of Dustin Byfuglien even playing this year, Montreal isn't making the playoffs anyways so no reason for Byfuglien to even sign there. And that's a joke if you think Tatar+Kovalchuk gets you Darnell Nurse try more like Domi if you want Nurse. These trades are all laugh


I saw rumours that Buff may retire, I also saw rumours he may not be done. If Montreal trades Petry, he would be a good option for Montreal if neither Juulsen or Brook can join the Habs next year.

Quoting: MisstheWhalers
There's no way the Oilers do that.


Would you if it were Domi instead?
6 févr. 2020 à 9 h 4
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Why would edm do that
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6 févr. 2020 à 9 h 16
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Why would edm do that


Because they need wingers to go with their superstar centers and 9 depth forwards... Rumours of Nurse asking for too much in contract negotiations was the reason I targets him instead of Bouchard or Broberg.
6 févr. 2020 à 9 h 22
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Because they need wingers to go with their superstar centers and 9 depth forwards... Rumours of Nurse asking for too much in contract negotiations was the reason I targets him instead of Bouchard or Broberg.


LOL Tatar isn’t worth nurse plus a 1st or one of our best prospects get real.
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6 févr. 2020 à 9 h 29
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LOL Tatar isn’t worth nurse plus a 1st or one of our best prospects get real.


He isn't the only piece to the trade. Tatar 0.91 points per game. Kovalchuk 0.77 points per game. Plus Gagner as a cap dump. Edmonton has to eventually help McDavid/Leon out. They going to go for it? or waste another superstars prime years?
6 févr. 2020 à 9 h 33
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He isn't the only piece to the trade. Tatar 0.91 points per game. Kovalchuk 0.77 points per game. Plus Gagner as a cap dump. Edmonton has to eventually help McDavid/Leon out. They going to go for it? or waste another superstars prime years?


Half a year of Gagner not much of a dump Tatar is worth nurse 1 for 1 and no fckkn way is kovy worth a 1st or our best prospect.. even with tatar edm isn’t winning it not gonna lose all those assets for that garbage
6 févr. 2020 à 9 h 51
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He isn't the only piece to the trade. Tatar 0.91 points per game. Kovalchuk 0.77 points per game. Plus Gagner as a cap dump. Edmonton has to eventually help McDavid/Leon out. They going to go for it? or waste another superstars prime years?


Wb nurse for domi and a 1st? Or caufield, Suzuki?
6 févr. 2020 à 9 h 59
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Tatar is worth nurse 1 for 1


No he isn't. Tatar is 29 and will soon be in decline. Nurse is 25 and has probably 5-6 prime years ahead of him.
6 févr. 2020 à 10 h 5
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No he isn't. Tatar is 29 and will soon be in decline. Nurse is 25 and has probably 5-6 prime years ahead of him.


No it’s probably not I personally think domi for nurse around that is a lot closer but I just can’t believe how habs fans think it’s Tatar for nurse plus a 1st or broberg, Bouchard it actually blows my mind
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6 févr. 2020 à 10 h 6
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No he isn't. Tatar is 29 and will soon be in decline. Nurse is 25 and has probably 5-6 prime years ahead of him.


I am not arguing who is worth more. But Tatar is posting Career Years every year. If he is soon to decline, someone should tell him, because he isn't showing any signs of anything except getting better. Posting 50 points in 55 games at 29 with Danault as his center, imagine what he could do with McDavid or Draisaitl.

Bergevin wants to keep Tatar, and it would take an overpayment to pry him out of Montreal. I understand Oiler's fans not liking this trade idea. I also think Oilers should be targeting Wingers (Tatar/Kovy) if they are serious about making a Cup Run. They are a solid team with solid prospects, they just need offensive help.
6 févr. 2020 à 10 h 11
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No it’s probably not I personally think domi for nurse around that is a lot closer but I just can’t believe how habs fans think it’s Tatar for nurse plus a 1st or broberg, Bouchard it actually blows my mind


You continue to not say the whole deal. I never said Tatar is worth Nurse + 1st or Bouchard + 1st. Kovy adds value, Gagner adds negative value. And yes, its still an overpayment, I understand that. That's the type of deal I think it takes to get Tatar out of Montreal. I am not going to not post Debatable Overpayment Trades just because that fanbase will whine "that's not fair". I never said it was fair.
6 févr. 2020 à 10 h 14
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I am not arguing who is worth more. But Tatar is posting Career Years every year. If he is soon to decline, someone should tell him, because he isn't showing any signs of anything except getting better. Posting 50 points in 55 games at 29 with Danault as his center, imagine what he could do with McDavid or Draisaitl.

Bergevin wants to keep Tatar, and it would take an overpayment to pry him out of Montreal. I understand Oiler's fans not liking this trade idea. I also think Oilers should be targeting Wingers (Tatar/Kovy) if they are serious about making a Cup Run. They are a solid team with solid prospects, they just need offensive help.


You are a Habs fan trying to engineer an overpay for your aging players. The Oilers won't do it. Keep them. Neither did well in the Pacific division.

And I don't think the Oilers should have to pay more just in case a player puts up more points with McDavid or Draisaitl.
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6 févr. 2020 à 10 h 14
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You continue to not say the whole deal. I never said Tatar is worth Nurse + 1st or Bouchard + 1st. Kovy adds value, Gagner adds negative value. And yes, its still an overpayment, I understand that. That's the type of deal I think it takes to get Tatar out of Montreal. I am not going to not post Debatable Overpayment Trades just because that fanbase will whine "that's not fair". I never said it was fair.


Kovy and the half year of Gagner does not even come close to making up the gap
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6 févr. 2020 à 10 h 15
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Quoting: Cheddamonkey37
Kovy and the half year of Gagner does not even come close to making up the gap


Quoting: RobbStark03
You continue to not say the whole deal. I never said Tatar is worth Nurse + 1st or Bouchard + 1st. Kovy adds value, Gagner adds negative value. And yes, its still an overpayment, I understand that. That's the type of deal I think it takes to get Tatar out of Montreal. I am not going to not post Debatable Overpayment Trades just because that fanbase will whine "that's not fair". I never said it was fair.
6 févr. 2020 à 10 h 18
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You are a Habs fan trying to engineer an overpay for your aging players. The Oilers won't do it. Keep them. Neither did well in the Pacific division.

And I don't think the Oilers should have to pay more just in case a player puts up more points with McDavid or Draisaitl.


Rumours:
1. It would take an overpayment to get Tatar out of Montreal.
2. Oilers are interested in Tatar.

So, if Oilers are calling, and know it would take an overpayment but are calling anyways, then why can't Montreal fans come onto this website designed to put trade ideas out there with an overpayment involved? You don't have to like it, but your team is showing interest, therefore, maybe they are willing...
 
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