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tdl-wild

Créé par: nabnuke
Date de création initiale: fév 5, 2020
Publié: Feb 5 at 11:20 pm
Équipe: 2019-20 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Explications
I think these two trades give the Pens an incredibly solid D corps for the stretch and playoff run as well as a solid forward lineup. Then if Guentzel could come back for the playoffs, they'd be even more stout.
The Wild, as currently constructed aren't working. They need assets to improve in the future. Also, Zucker and Brodin don't appear to be in their future plans. That said, they would be strong adds to the Pens. Give up a couple roster guys, a couple prospects and a 1st and 2nd to make the trade.
Also swap Bjugstad for Wayne Simmonds. Similar cap hits. Simmonds adds toughness and grit to the team along with skill. Would be nice to have Horny on the top PP unit and Simmonds on the 2nd PP unit.
Transactions
PIT
  1. Brodin, Jonas
  2. Zucker, Jason
Détails additionnels:
based on reports, it doesn't appear Brodin or Zucker are in Wild's long term plans. Both upgrade Pens.
MIN
  1. Galchenyuk, Alex
  2. Johnson, Jack
  3. Hållander, Filip
  4. Joseph, Pierre-Olivier
  5. 2020 1e round pick (PIT)
  6. 2021 2e round pick (PIT)
Détails additionnels:
Galchenyuk and Johnson can slot in immediately. Hallander and POJ are prospects for each side. Add in a 1st and a 2nd for the obvious upgrades in players besides the prospects.
PIT
  1. Simmonds, Wayne
Détails additionnels:
Simmonds also not in long term plans for NJD. But, adds an added dimension to the Pens. Another net front presence, not afraid to stick his nose in there. Would be really interesting to have him on the Pens side after years of him being with the Flyers.
NJD
  1. Bjugstad, Nick
Détails additionnels:
Bjugs hasn't really worked out in PIT. Not in the long term plans.
Enfoui
  • Casey DeSmith: 175 000 $ (1 250 000 $)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2020
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
2021
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
ANA
2022
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2481 500 000 $73 874 542 $132 500 $3 832 500 $7 625 458 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
MIN
Zucker, Jason
5 500 000 $
AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 4
PIT
Crosby, Sidney
8 700 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 6
PIT
Hörnqvist, Patric
5 300 000 $
AD
NTC
UFA - 4
PIT
Kahun, Dominik
925 000 $
AG, AD, C
RFA - 1
PIT
Malkin, Evgeni
9 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 3
PIT
Rust, Bryan
3 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
PIT
Simon, Dominik
750 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 1
PIT
McCann, Jared
1 250 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 1
NJD
Simmonds, Wayne
2 500 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 1
PIT
Aston-Reese, Zach
1 000 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
PIT
Blueger, Teddy
750 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
PIT
Tanev, Brandon
3 500 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 6
PIT
Lafferty, Sam
767 500 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
PIT
Angello, Anthony
833 750 $
C
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
PIT
Dumoulin, Brian
4 100 000 $
DG
UFA - 4
PIT
Letang, Kris
7 250 000 $
DD
NMC NTC
UFA - 3
PIT
Murray, Matt
3 750 000 $
G
RFA - 1
MIN
Brodin, Jonas
4 166 667 $
DG
UFA - 2
PIT
Marino, John
925 000 $
D
RFA - 2
PIT
Jarry, Tristan
675 000 $
G
RFA - 1
PIT
Pettersson, Marcus
874 125 $
DG
UFA - 1
PIT
Schultz, Justin
5 500 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 1
PIT
Riikola, Juuso
850 000 $
D
RFA - 1
PIT
Ruhwedel, Chad
700 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
PIT
Guentzel, Jake
6 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 5

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5 fév à 23 h 30
#1
Rejoint: jun 2017
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If the Wild trade both Brodin and Zucker together, it would be a fatal mistake to not get a highly talented young center that projects to be a mainstay in a team's top 6. Penguins don't have a guy like that. Zucker probably could be had for Hallander, a 1st, and possibly a slight add, so that means the Wild are essentially trading Brodin for Galchenyuk, Johnson, and a 2nd which would be robbery by the Penguins.
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6 fév à 0 h 26
#2
Rejoint: jun 2018
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Quoting: TanSor
If the Wild trade both Brodin and Zucker together, it would be a fatal mistake to not get a highly talented young center that projects to be a mainstay in a team's top 6. Penguins don't have a guy like that. Zucker probably could be had for Hallander, a 1st, and possibly a slight add, so that means the Wild are essentially trading Brodin for Galchenyuk, Johnson, and a 2nd which would be robbery by the Penguins.


Zucker for hallander a 1st and more would be utter robbery by the wild, so one robbery followed by other robbery. (not to mention the person including this also threw POJ in). I think pens should say no.
6 fév à 13 h 41
#3
jimmmyg
Rejoint: mar 2017
Messages: 684
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Quoting: awesome
Zucker for hallander a 1st and more would be utter robbery by the wild, so one robbery followed by other robbery. (not to mention the person including this also threw POJ in). I think pens should say no.


I am not so sure it would be utter robbery, don't forget Zucker is under contract at a comfortable cap hit. If he can get/stay healthy, he is well worth Hallander and our 1st. Not so sure Minnesota would pick Hallander out of the bunch, though. Guerin knows our prospects as good as anyone and is probably asking for Addison which is why the deal has never come to fruition. GMJR doesn't strike me as a guy would nix a deal over worrying about next years cap, so I am assuming Billy G is just asking for our prospects which is a bit too rich right now.
7 fév à 0 h 14
#4
Rejoint: jun 2018
Messages: 945
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Quoting: jimmmyg
I am not so sure it would be utter robbery, don't forget Zucker is under contract at a comfortable cap hit. If he can get/stay healthy, he is well worth Hallander and our 1st. Not so sure Minnesota would pick Hallander out of the bunch, though. Guerin knows our prospects as good as anyone and is probably asking for Addison which is why the deal has never come to fruition. GMJR doesn't strike me as a guy would nix a deal over worrying about next years cap, so I am assuming Billy G is just asking for our prospects which is a bit too rich right now.


Zucker is a bit overpaid, other than this year he hasn't had too bad of a injury history so longer term that isn't the bigger worry. No way I would do a first plus hallander without retention on Zucker, which I know the wild would not do. I don't think GMJR is worried about the cap hit, I think the reason Zucker hasn't gone anywhere(penguins or elsewhere) is cause the wild are still somewhat in the race, if they fall out he might get moved but if they stay in it he might not get traded at all.
7 fév à 10 h 18
#5
jimmmyg
Rejoint: mar 2017
Messages: 684
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Quoting: awesome
Zucker is a bit overpaid, other than this year he hasn't had too bad of a injury history so longer term that isn't the bigger worry. No way I would do a first plus hallander without retention on Zucker, which I know the wild would not do. I don't think GMJR is worried about the cap hit, I think the reason Zucker hasn't gone anywhere(penguins or elsewhere) is cause the wild are still somewhat in the race, if they fall out he might get moved but if they stay in it he might not get traded at all.


good point - i have been completely sleeping on Minnesota this year and only watching their games not the standings. they really aren't far out at all! At 25-22-6 and only 4 pts out of the WC, the west is just not great right now flushed cheeks I guess we get to wait and see, less than 3 weeks til TDL now. It just almost seems inevitable up to this point lmaoo
9 fév à 20 h 20
#6
Rejoint: jun 2018
Messages: 945
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Quoting: jimmmyg
good point - i have been completely sleeping on Minnesota this year and only watching their games not the standings. they really aren't far out at all! At 25-22-6 and only 4 pts out of the WC, the west is just not great right now flushed cheeks I guess we get to wait and see, less than 3 weeks til TDL now. It just almost seems inevitable up to this point lmaoo


yeah the west has been pretty wide open for first half of year, some struggling teams are still in it. Only teams way out of it are the kings along with San Jose and Ducks.
 
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