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how much would it take for the leafs to get Petry

Créé par: beanie2911
Date de création initiale: fév 4, 2020
Publié: 4 fév 2020 à 11 h 53
Équipe: 2019-20 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Explications
obviously its to a major rival, so the price is going to be higher than if he were traded somewhere else. just wondering what it would take. here is what I think the basis of it would be, but I think this idea needs some work for sure. also, to all leaf fans. how do u bench Sandin if we trade for a d man and Reilly comes back? do we look to trade Dermott?
Transactions
TOR
  1. Petry, Jeff
MTL
  1. Kapanen, Kasperi
  2. Ceci, Cody
  3. Liljegren, Timothy
  4. Bracco, Jeremy
Détails additionnels:
this is where I think the deal starts. I don't know if its totally fair though. Ceci is there for salary reasons really, and he expires after this year so he isn't really a burden on the habs. Kapanen would really help out their top 6(seeing him and domi on a line would be hilarious), plus he can kill penalties. he's young, not too expensive, and hes under term for a little while. liljegren is not a top tier d prospect, but hes got some solid potential, should be a really solid top 4 guy who can play special teams, and Bracco isn't anything super special, but he can eventually be really valuable on the power play, and should be a good playmaker on the wing in the top 9 if he can get his defensive game together. lmk what else should be added to either sad.
Rachats de contrats
  • Mikhail Grabovski: 0 $
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Phil Kessel: 1 200 000 $ (15%)
  • Robin Lehner: 1 100 000 $ (22%)
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2020
TOR
CBJ
TOR
VGK
TOR
CAR
COL
SJS
STL
WPG
2021
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
2022
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
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2281 500 000 $81 791 310 $0 $70 000 $-291 310 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
TOR
Hyman, Zach
2 250 000 $
AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Matthews, Auston
11 634 000 $
C
UFA - 5
TOR
Marner, Mitchell
10 893 000 $
AD
UFA - 6
TOR
Kerfoot, Alexander
3 500 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 4
TOR
Tavares, John
11 000 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 6
TOR
Nylander, William
6 962 366 $
AD, AG
UFA - 5
TOR
Johnsson, Andreas
3 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
TOR
Engvall, Pierre
925 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 1
TOR
Moore, Trevor
775 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
TOR
Gauthier, Frédérik
675 000 $
C
UFA - 1
TOR
Spezza, Jason
700 000 $
C, AD
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Timashov, Dmytro
694 444 $
AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
TOR
Rielly, Morgan
5 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
MTL
Petry, Jeff
5 500 000 $
DD
NMC NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Andersen, Frederik
5 000 000 $
G
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Muzzin, Jake
4 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
TOR
Holl, Justin
675 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
TOR
Hutchinson, Michael
700 000 $
G
UFA - 1
TOR
Dermott, Travis
863 333 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
TOR
Barrie, Tyson
2 750 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
TOR
Marincin, Martin
700 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
TOR
Horton, Nathan
5 300 000 $
AD
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Sandin, Rasmus
894 167 $
DG
RFA - 3
TOR
Clarkson, David
5 250 000 $
AD
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Mikheyev, Ilya
925 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1

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4 fév 2020 à 11 h 54
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not that much, not even close
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4 fév 2020 à 11 h 55
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Quoting: Jack_
not that much, not even close


I dont think Petry is worth that much, maybe. but it would take that much(I think) to get him from a heated rival
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4 fév 2020 à 11 h 59
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From a Habs perspective, I would do this deal. Obviously, we'd have a huge hole at the right, but I'd reevaluate my cupboard at season end and make a trade for a 2RD if we're still thinking of trying again next year. If we're pure sellers, then this is a great start.

From a Leafs perspective, I doubt Dubas is willing to pay anything like that.
4 fév 2020 à 12 h 00
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Quoting: beanie2911
I dont think Petry is worth that much, maybe. but it would take that much(I think) to get him from a heated rival


I mean...Leafs had to give up a 2nd rd pick to get Plekanec.
4 fév 2020 à 12 h 00
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Quoting: We_Want_The_Cup
From a Habs perspective, I would do this deal. Obviously, we'd have a huge hole at the right, but I'd reevaluate my cupboard at season end and make a trade for a 2RD if we're still thinking of trying again next year. If we're pure sellers, then this is a great start.

From a Leafs perspective, I doubt Dubas is willing to pay anything like that.


ya I dont think dubas pulls the trigger on this either, unless something else goes the other way that replaces liljegren. idk if thats possible though.
4 fév 2020 à 12 h 01
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I mean...Leafs had to give up a 2nd rd pick to get Plekanec.


exactly. thats my thinking.
4 fév 2020 à 12 h 03
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as has already been stated... leafs wont do this but thats likely the cost from leafs to habs because its intra division, rivalry, etc. HOWEVER, I dont think petry solves the issues for this team.
4 fév 2020 à 12 h 05
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So upgrading from Ceci to Petry for 1-year would cost a .... 1st + 1st + 2nd + 3rd ... plus millions in cap-space ????

TRADE VALUES:

Kapanen = 1st + 2nd
Liljegren = 1st
Bracco = 3rd

CAP SPACE:

Kapanen = $3,200,000 x 3 years
Liljegren = $860,000 x 3 years

You don't think these contracts will come in handy?
And Petry making $5,500,000 will force Muzzin off the team next year, so it's basically a break even scenario next year.
Except we've given away Kapanen + Liljegren + Bracco.
4 fév 2020 à 12 h 07
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The negotiations start with the same type of package Toronto gave up for Muzzin, and then fine tuning is needed based on Petry being at least as good as Muzzin, and the fact it is a division rival. Highly doubt Montreal wants Bracco or Ceci, neither offer much value at the moment.
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4 fév 2020 à 12 h 07
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Quoting: drewjenks
So upgrading from Ceci to Petry for 1-year would cost a .... 1st + 1st + 2nd + 3rd ... plus millions in cap-space ????

TRADE VALUES:

Kapanen = 1st + 2nd
Liljegren = 1st
Bracco = 3rd

CAP SPACE:

Kapanen = $3,200,000 x 3 years
Liljegren = $860,000 x 3 years

You don't think these contracts will come in handy?
And Petry making $5,500,000 will force Muzzin off the team next year, so it's basically a break even scenario next year.
Except we've given away Kapanen + Liljegren + Bracco.


u think Kappy is worth a first and a second? seems steep
4 fév 2020 à 12 h 20
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Quoting: beanie2911
u think Kappy is worth a first and a second? seems steep


His age + cap + term + RFA expiry all add value.
And a team that would trade for him is probably a contender ... so the first would be late (and probably lottery protected).
People pay a 1st ++ for rentals all the time. Whoever gets Kapanen has him for 3 playoff runs ... with potential improvement every year.

EXAMPLE:

Vancouver paid a 1st + 3rd + backup for TJ Miller last summer.
He was coming off a 13 goal / 47 point season (in 75 games). Similar numbers to Kapanen.
Except he was 26 while Kapanen is 23 and his cap-hit is $2,050,000 higher than Kapanen's.
That $2,000,000 difference in cap-space for 3 years is worth a 2nd by itself to a lot of teams.
4 fév 2020 à 13 h 04
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Quoting: EzioUchiha
I mean...Leafs had to give up a 2nd rd pick to get Plekanec.


And he helped you get to game 7, you're welcome...
4 fév 2020 à 13 h 20
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Petry is the last Defense man Toronto should go after
4 fév 2020 à 14 h 08
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Quoting: Boomer125
Petry is the last Defense man Toronto should go after


interesting take. why do u say that?
4 fév 2020 à 14 h 25
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Quoting: beanie2911
interesting take. why do u say that?


Alright you asked.......Petry is not that good, he's not that good defensively nor is he an offensive juggernaut, he's mediocre at everything, there is no Weber in TO to play the tough minutes.
4 fév 2020 à 15 h 36
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Quoting: Boomer125
Alright you asked.......Petry is not that good, he's not that good defensively nor is he an offensive juggernaut, he's mediocre at everything, there is no Weber in TO to play the tough minutes.


Both Siegel and Mirtle (both are Leafs sports writers for the Athletic) disagree with you. They both agree Petry is the best fit for TOR. Not to say it will happen, but still.
4 fév 2020 à 15 h 45
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If this were a real offer from the leafs, MTL would probably have to retain 50% on Petry.

I can see Kapanen + Liljegren for Petry at 50% being a thing, if the Leafs need Habs to take on Ceci for a few months, MTL would just have to bite the bullet and do it, no need for Bracco
4 fév 2020 à 18 h 02
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Quoting: Blazingbat11
Both Siegel and Mirtle (both are Leafs sports writers for the Athletic) disagree with you. They both agree Petry is the best fit for TOR. Not to say it will happen, but still.


They are media talking heads, they think every player that's made available would fit perfectly with the Leafs, it's talking points bud not real
 
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