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Ken Holland Wheels and Deals Two Blockbusters

Créé par: OldNYIfan
Équipe: 2020-21 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 2 févr. 2020
Publié: 3 févr. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Edmonton gets the 23rd overall draft position.

The two trades are made after the season and contemporaneously, at or before the actual draft. I think that the resulting roster is much better than this year's team.

I have trouble suggesting back-up-goalie candidates for both Edmonton and Toronto, hence the blank.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
3875 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
66 500 000 $
22 000 000 $
21 100 000 $
2900 000 $
2900 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
31 333 333 $
21 250 000 $
2900 000 $
2800 000 $
Transactions
1.
EDM
  1. Domi, Max [Droits de RFA]
MTL
  1. Nurse, Darnell [Droits de RFA]
2.
TOR
  1. Bear, Ethan [Droits de RFA]
  2. Bouchard, Evan
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (EDM)
3.
EDM
    Condition of the Neal-Lucic exchange
    CGY
    1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (EDM)
    Rachats de contrats
    Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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    2022
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    2283 500 000 $82 619 365 $341 534 $305 000 $880 635 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 2
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    12 500 000 $12 500 000 $
    C
    UFA - 6
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    894 166 $894 166 $ (Bonis de performance230 000 $$230K)
    AD
    RFA - 1
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    8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
    C, AG
    UFA - 5
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    6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
    AG, C
    UFA - 1
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    5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 3
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    1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
    AG, C
    UFA - 1
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    1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
    AG, C
    UFA - 1
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    2 150 000 $2 150 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 1
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    925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance75 000 $$75K)
    C, AD
    UFA - 1
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    3 200 000 $3 200 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 4
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    808 333 $808 333 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    900 000 $900 000 $
    C
    RFA
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    1 333 333 $1 333 333 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 2
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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    5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
    DG
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
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    4 166 666 $4 166 666 $
    DD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
    G
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    4 167 000 $4 167 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
    DG/DD
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 1
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    850 000 $850 000 $
    DG/DD
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
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    3 févr. 2020 à 14 h 14
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    "the trade is one for one"
    3 févr. 2020 à 14 h 15
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    Ken Holland doesn't know how to wheel and deal, Of all the longed tenured GM's in the league. Ken Holland has made the fewest trades.
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    3 févr. 2020 à 14 h 18
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    Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
    Ken Holland doesn't know how to wheel and deal, Of all the longed tenured GM's in the league. Ken Holland has made the fewest trades.


    These kinda make themselves, don't they? I mean, if the other teams called and suggested them, could he say No?
    3 févr. 2020 à 14 h 21
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    These kinda make themselves, don't they? I mean, if the other teams called and suggested them, could he say No?


    I mean it's possible, Just wouldn't get my hopes up here. I mean Holland does have better pieces to work with there in Edmonton then he did with Detroit so there's that.
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    3 févr. 2020 à 14 h 21
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    Quoting: OldNYIfan
    These kinda make themselves, don't they? I mean, if the other teams called and suggested them, could he say No?


    Pretty sure he says no to Leaf trade.. that's RHD depth suicide
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    3 févr. 2020 à 14 h 30
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    Pretty sure he says no to Leaf trade.. that's RHD depth suicide


    Thanks for the input. But with Rielly, Klefbom and Jones on the left set for at least two more years, all that's needed on the right is complementary players, not all-stars. I think these two moves improve the Oilers significantly. But your point is well taken. Larsson and Russell are off the books after next season, so some free agent work would almost certainly be necessary.
    3 févr. 2020 à 14 h 36
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    Quoting: OldNYIfan
    Thanks for the input. But with Rielly, Klefbom and Jones on the left set for at least two more years, all that's needed on the right is complementary players, not all-stars. I think these two moves improve the Oilers significantly. But your point is well taken. Larsson and Russell are off the books after next season, so some free agent work would almost certainly be necessary.


    Feel like D as is locked up for more then 2 years and moving Russell or Neal in trade or buyout gives enough cap to chase a UFA winger for McD
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    3 févr. 2020 à 14 h 42
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    Quoting: Bluetomorrow83
    Feel like D as is locked up for more then 2 years and moving Russell or Neal in trade or buyout gives enough cap to chase a UFA winger for McD


    True. With the Gagner money plus the difference between what I have signed Domi for and what Nurse will probably be signed for, you should have enough in hand to get a decent forward . . . if one is available. Who do you foresee pursuing?
    3 févr. 2020 à 14 h 46
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    I think one of the last things EDM needs is less good RHD....... even at the cost of better players elsewhere. I can see the Habs deal but the Leafs deal is all but surely not going to happen, although the value going back to Tor is exceptional. It just doesn't work overall for both team though.
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    3 févr. 2020 à 14 h 48
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    True. With the Gagner money plus the difference between what I have signed Domi for and what Nurse will probably be signed for, you should have enough in hand to get a decent forward . . . if one is available. Who do you foresee pursuing?


    Honestly I think its all up in the air until Benson gets his shot if he gels with McDavid problem solved internally and extra cap goes into getting higher end #3C. Player like Haula could be a safe bet as he could fill LW spot or #3C depending where the biggest need is and likely gets the typical ~3.5M range contract
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    I think one of the last things EDM needs is less good RHD....... even at the cost of better players elsewhere. I can see the Habs deal but the Leafs deal is all but surely not going to happen, although the value going back to Tor is exceptional. It just doesn't work overall for both team though.


    Thanks for the input!
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    Honestly I think its all up in the air until Benson gets his shot if he gels with McDavid problem solved internally and extra cap goes into getting higher end #3C. Player like Haula could be a safe bet as he could fill LW spot or #3C depending where the biggest need is and likely gets the typical ~3.5M range contract


    That's sensible insight and a reasonable plan.
    3 févr. 2020 à 15 h 48
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    Two bad trades for the Oilers if you ask me.
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    Two bad trades for the Oilers if you ask me.


    Yeah, your current team is much better off with Alex Chiasson instead of Max Domi and Darnell Nurse instead of Morgan Rielly.
    3 févr. 2020 à 20 h 31
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    Yeah, your current team is much better off with Alex Chiasson instead of Max Domi and Darnell Nurse instead of Morgan Rielly.



    1- I'm not an Oilers fan.
    2- You left out three costly pieces in making those switches.
    3 févr. 2020 à 22 h 45
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    1- I'm not an Oilers fan.
    2- You left out three costly pieces in making those switches.


    They're not costly pieces, they're futures, no more valuable intrinsically than fourth overall pick Jesse Puljujarvi.
    4 févr. 2020 à 2 h 36
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    They're not costly pieces, they're futures, no more valuable intrinsically than fourth overall pick Jesse Puljujarvi.


    Bear is not a future, he's there now playing well on an ELC. Bouchard is their higest rated D prospect, and one of the best around the league. We all know a 2020 1st is valuable. Those are all costly pieces to acquire, certainly each more costly than Puljujarvi at this point.
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    Quoting: Bluetomorrow83
    Pretty sure he says no to Leaf trade.. that's RHD depth suicide


    Well, I've thought this trade (and the comments, mainly your first one) over for the last four days and I have concluded that you are right. This trade strips too much from Edmonton's right side. Substitute Caleb Jones for Evan Bouchard and the trade moves from impossible to one chance in a million.
     
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