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Team of players whose value is wayyyy off by their respective fanbases

Créé par: AndrewLadd
Date de création initiale: jan 28, 2020
Publié: Jan 28 at 12:09 pm
Équipe: 2019-20 Équipe du client
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There’s probably a better way of wording the title, so I hope it makes sense.
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
1981 500 000 $54 845 000 $0 $752 500 $26 655 000 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
MIN
Zucker, Jason
5 500 000 $
AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 4
OTT
Pageau, Jean-Gabriel
3 100 000 $
C
UFA - 1
ANA
Kase, Ondrej
2 600 000 $
AD
RFA - 2
TOR
Johnsson, Andreas
3 400 000 $
AG
UFA - 4
NYR
Strome, Ryan
3 100 000 $
C, AD
RFA - 1
TOR
Kapanen, Kasperi
3 200 000 $
AD
RFA - 3
NYR
Kreider, Chris
4 625 000 $
AG
NTC
UFA - 1
DET
Athanasiou, Andreas
3 000 000 $
C, AG, AD
RFA - 1
SJS
Labanc, Kevin
1 000 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 1
MTL
Tatar, Tomas
4 800 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
NYI
Wahlstrom, Oliver
925 000 $
C, AD
RFA - 3
TOR
Bracco, Jeremy
842 500 $
AD
RFA - 1
CBJ
Anderson, Josh
1 850 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
SJS
Dillon, Brenden
1 635 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
NYI
Mayfield, Scott
1 450 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
NYR
Georgiev, Alexandar
792 500 $
G
RFA - 1
COL
Timmins, Conor
925 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
ANA
Manson, Josh
4 100 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 3
SJS
Burns, Brent
8 000 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 6

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28 jan à 12 h 12
#1
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I feel like Manson is more overvalued than Kase, Most ducks fans just dont want to sell low on Kase
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28 jan à 12 h 15
#2
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Quoting: Salzy
I feel like Manson is more overvalued than Kase, Most ducks fans just dont want to sell low on Kase


Manson’s definitely someone I’m gonna add. Only thing with Kase is is I’ve tried to trade for him multiple times with multiple teams and Ducks fans are never satisfied
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28 jan à 12 h 16
#3
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Quoting: AndrewLadd
Manson’s definitely someone I’m gonna add. Only thing with Kase is is I’ve tried to trade for him multiple times with multiple teams and Ducks fans are never satisfied


I think that Ducks fans have gotten away from overvaluing him (he definitely was at a point) I know I wouldn't really be satisfied with any trade for him now at his current value, but I get its at an all time low
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28 jan à 12 h 22
#4
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As a Leafs fan, you should probably add Jeremy Bracco to that list.
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28 jan à 12 h 27
#5
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Quoting: newballcoach
As a Leafs fan, you should probably add Jeremy Bracco to that list.


I respect that
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28 jan à 12 h 37
#6
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Most Columbus fans way over value Anderson and call me crazy for trading him for a 2nd round pick... sadly he might not be worth that anymore.
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28 jan à 12 h 38
#7
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Quoting: Ajp_18
Most Columbus fans way over value Anderson and call me crazy for trading him for a 2nd round pick... sadly he might not be worth that anymore.


Another good suggestion
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28 jan à 12 h 44
#8
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As an habs fan, Price and Kovalchuk could slot in there
28 jan à 12 h 44
#9
Canes Baby
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I would throw Tatar in there.
28 jan à 12 h 45
#10
Isles777
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You think wahlstrom is overrated by isles fans?
28 jan à 12 h 45
#11
exo2769
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I don't see any Hawks up there. I'm a bit surprised.
28 jan à 12 h 48
#12
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Quoting: Isles777
You think wahlstrom is overrated by isles fans?


Yes, especially myself... he rly hasn’t been great in Bridgeport this year, struggled in college last year and had no points in his call up (although his first couple games he looked good.) I still love him, but I feel like our fanbase thinks of him as untouchable, when he really shouldn’t be
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28 jan à 12 h 49
#13
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Quoting: exo2769
I don't see any Hawks up there. I'm a bit surprised.


Trade wise I’m not too sure of what Hawks could go up there, maaaaaybe Lehner but I understand that, I love the guy
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28 jan à 12 h 49
#14
M. Marincin Truther
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I wouldn't have kappy on there. A couple of overrated guys I see all the time are Brandon Montour, kovalchuk, galchenyuk and burns
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28 jan à 12 h 49
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Quoting: jslongo
I would throw Tatar in there.


That’s a good one too
28 jan à 12 h 50
#16
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Ryan Strome
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28 jan à 12 h 51
#17
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Quoting: Jack_
I wouldn't have kappy on there. A couple of overrated guys I see all the time are Brandon Montour, kovalchuk, galchenyuk and burns


I don’t see too many Montour trades, so I’m reluctant to put him up. Galchenyuk I feel like is fair but Burns I definitely agree with
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28 jan à 12 h 51
#18
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Quoting: Jack_
Ryan Strome


FACTS
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28 jan à 12 h 51
#19
Isles777
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Quoting: AndrewLadd
Yes, especially myself... he rly hasn’t been great in Bridgeport this year, struggled in college last year and had no points in his call up (although his first couple games he looked good.) I still love him, but I feel like our fanbase thinks of him as untouchable, when he really shouldn’t be


I don’t think he’s untouchable, but I would rather not trade him. I still believe he’s the perfect winger for barzal.
28 jan à 12 h 52
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Quoting: Isles777
I don’t think he’s untouchable, but I would rather not trade him. I still believe he’s the perfect winger for barzal.


Me too, and I still have high hopes, but I do think that we as a fanbase overrate him a bit
28 jan à 12 h 53
#21
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Quoting: AndrewLadd
I don’t see too many Montour trades, so I’m reluctant to put him up. Galchenyuk I feel like is fair but Burns I definitely agree with


I dont think galchenyuk is that good but that's just me. I see sabers fans proposing to lock him up long term but he isnt good at all. You could just put sabers fans on the team because every player they have baby jesus 2.0
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28 jan à 12 h 56
#22
Isles777
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Quoting: AndrewLadd
Me too, and I still have high hopes, but I do think that we as a fanbase overrate him a bit


His underlying metrics were really strong at the NHL level (he was demoted to the 4th line because barry trotz doesn’t trust young players) so that’s encouraging IMO. I’m still really high on him, bellows not so much despite him lighting it up in BPT over the last few months.

some fans think wahlstrom is going to be this 40+ goal scorer , I’m not that high on him, but I’m fairly confident he’ll be a 25-30 G scorer in a few years.
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28 jan à 13 h 03
#23
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Carey price. the number of price for byram+ picks...
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28 jan à 13 h 06
#24
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Quoting: AndrewLadd
Manson’s definitely someone I’m gonna add. Only thing with Kase is is I’ve tried to trade for him multiple times with multiple teams and Ducks fans are never satisfied


I think in both cases we have a problem with the term "overvalue."

Guys who think Risto Ristolainen is worth a first-round pick and a top-6 forward are overvaluing their player.

Ducks fans have particular reasons for rejecting trades involving Kase and Manson, and only the latter has an element of "over-valuing."

Ducks fans want to get the equivalent of a Kase who will play the rest of his career with only minimal game loss due to injury. That would be a pretty nice price. The problem, of course, is that he has an injury history which makes it risky for other teams to offer his full worth. In short, Anaheim guys want the value of an 80-game Kase; guys trading for him (reasonably) want a discount for health.

Similarly, Ducks fans want a high price for Manson because we have no one else to play RhD other than Erik Gudbranson. But it makes little sense for an acquiring team to try to improve the right side of its own defense while sending back someone to replace him. And then there's the true element of overvaluing where he's concerned: Manson had one good year two seasons ago and doesn't look anything like that player now. In particular, if you'd watch him every game, you'd be appalled by the quality of the giveaways he commits on a regular and multiple basis. The first goal last night was just the latest example.
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28 jan à 13 h 08
#25
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Andreas Anthanasiou?
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