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These are my estimated Trade costs of the 13 Top Wingers maybe ava for Pens

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Équipe: 2019-20 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 27 janv. 2020
Publié: 28 janv. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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1.
PIT
  1. Rakell, Rickard
Détails additionnels:
This is easily the #1 Option for Pens
- He is a Right Handed Guentzel type
- Could play "Kessel" spot on PP
ANA
  1. Addison, Calen
  2. Riikola, Juuso
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (PIT)
  4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (PIT)
Détails additionnels:
ANA has a good group of young & prospect Forwards, 3-4 at LHD, & even 2 at Goalie. But ANA does have a hole at RHD.
2.
NYR
  1. Björkqvist, Kasper
Détails additionnels:
2020 1st Round Pick (PIT)
2021 5th Round Pick (PIT) "Conditional" (of Kreider Re-signing)
3.
4.
TOR
    This would only happen in a
    3- Way Trade type Deal where-

    TOR gets a Brodin type LHD
    Pens get Kappy
    MIN get POJ + 2nd Rdr
    5.
    NJD
    1. Hållander, Filip
    2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (PIT)
    3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (PIT)
    Détails additionnels:
    4. Galchenyuk, Alex
    6.
    PIT
    1. Anderson, Josh
    Détails additionnels:
    Anderson has been injured & scary bad this yr, but still worth a shot.
    CBJ
      1. Galchenyuk, Alex
      2. 2020 3rd Round pick (PIT)
      7.
      DET
        1. Galchenyuk, Alex
        2. 2021 2nd Round pick (PIT)
        8.
        PIT
        1. Labanc, Kevin
        2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (SJS)
        SJS
          1. Galchenyuk, Alex
          2. 2020 1st Round pick (PIT)
          3. Riikola, Jusso
          9.
          PIT
          1. Zucker, Jason (1 500 000 $ retained)
          Détails additionnels:
          I like Zucker but a 28 yr old Oft injured winger , w/ 4 yrs @ $5.5 is tough to take on. If this deal happens - MIN must retain $$
          MIN
            1. Galchenyuk, Alex
            2. 2021 2nd Round pick (PIT)
            3. 2020 3rd Round pick (PIT)
            10.
            PIT
            1. Hudon, Charles
            2. Tatar, Tomas (800 000 $ retained)
            MTL
              1. Galchenyuk, Alex
              2. 2020 3rd Round pick (PIT)
              3. 2021 2nd Round pick (PIT)
              11.
              PIT
              1. Granlund, Mikael
              Détails additionnels:
              * This could be the best & cheapest option for Pens ???
              - Granlund was always a good player, battles hard, analytics are still decent, but just hasn't worked in NSH?
              NSH
                1. Galchenyuk, Alex
                12.
                PIT
                1. Baertschi, Sven
                2. Virtanen, Jake
                Détails additionnels:
                - Maybe Baertschi comes here, plays decent ?
                Or we could...
                - Re-move him in off-season
                - keep him & bury in WBS
                - Buy him out for $1.5 cap hit next yr & $800, the next yr
                VAN
                  1. Galchenyuk, Alex ($2.45m Retained or 50%)
                  2. 2021 3rd Round pick - "Conditional" of Not buying out Baertschi
                  13.
                  PIT
                  1. Toffoli, Tyler
                  2. Choix de 7e ronde en 2020 (LAK)
                  LAK
                    1. Galchenyuk, Alex
                    2. 2020 3rd Round pick (PIT)
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                    2021
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                    2022
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                    3781 500 000 $119 286 430 $132 500 $3 700 000 $-37 786 430 $
                    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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                    4 625 000 $4 625 000 $
                    AG
                    M-NTC
                    UFA - 1
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                    9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
                    C
                    NMC
                    UFA - 3
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                    2 463 139 $2 463 139 $
                    AD, AG
                    UFA - 3
                    Logo de Wild du Minnesota
                    3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
                    AD, AG
                    UFA - 2
                    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
                    8 700 000 $8 700 000 $
                    C
                    NMC
                    UFA - 6
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                    3 200 000 $3 200 000 $
                    AD
                    UFA - 3
                    Logo de Predators de Nashville
                    5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
                    C, AD
                    UFA - 1
                    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
                    2 050 000 $2 050 000 $
                    C, AD
                    UFA - 2
                    Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
                    1 850 000 $1 850 000 $
                    AD, AG
                    UFA - 1
                    Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
                    3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
                    AG, AD
                    UFA - 1
                    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
                    750 000 $750 000 $
                    C, AG
                    UFA - 2
                    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
                    2 325 000 $2 325 000 $
                    AD, AG
                    M-NTC
                    UFA - 2
                    Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
                    4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
                    AG, AD
                    UFA - 2
                    Logo de Sharks de San Jose
                    1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
                    AD, AG
                    UFA - 1
                    Logo de Wild du Minnesota
                    4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
                    AG, AD
                    M-NTC
                    UFA - 4
                    Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
                    1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
                    AD, AG
                    UFA - 1
                    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
                    4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
                    AG, AD
                    UFA - 5
                    Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
                    4 600 000 $4 600 000 $
                    AD, AG
                    UFA - 1
                    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
                    1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
                    C, AG
                    UFA - 1
                    Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
                    800 000 $800 000 $
                    C, AG, AD
                    UFA - 1
                    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
                    1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
                    AG, AD
                    UFA - 2
                    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
                    5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
                    AD
                    NTC
                    UFA - 4
                    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
                    925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
                    AG, AD, C
                    UFA - 1
                    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
                    3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
                    AG, AD
                    M-NTC
                    UFA - 6
                    Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
                    3 366 666 $3 366 666 $
                    AG
                    UFA - 2
                    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
                    3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
                    AD, AG
                    UFA - 3
                    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
                    750 000 $750 000 $
                    AD, AG
                    UFA - 1
                    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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                    4 100 000 $4 100 000 $
                    DG
                    M-NTC
                    UFA - 4
                    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
                    7 250 000 $7 250 000 $
                    DD
                    M-NTC, NMC
                    UFA - 3
                    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
                    3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
                    G
                    UFA - 1
                    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
                    5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
                    DG/DD
                    NTC
                    UFA - 1
                    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
                    5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
                    DD
                    M-NTC
                    UFA - 1
                    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
                    675 000 $675 000 $
                    G
                    UFA - 1
                    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
                    874 125 $874 125 $
                    DG
                    UFA - 1
                    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
                    925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
                    DD
                    UFA - 2
                    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
                    3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
                    DG
                    UFA - 4
                    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
                    700 000 $700 000 $
                    DD
                    UFA - 2

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                    28 janv. 2020 à 10 h 40
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                    Could Pittsburgh add a winger for his spot? Or is that already a lot
                    28 janv. 2020 à 10 h 48
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                    Can't speak for the others but MTL need a 1st coming back for Tatar, especially if retaining cap. This offer is at most equivalent to two 2nds and a 3rd which isn't enough. Galchenyuk just isn't interesting for them given his history there and pending UFA status.

                    Also no, flipping him at the deadline is not a great idea and would be a hassle which would likely not get great value.
                    28 janv. 2020 à 10 h 52
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                    Kudos on the effort, but you can pretty much take Galchenyuk out of any trade that would include a top 6 forward returning or a rental. He doesn't have that type of value as a struggling UFA. Tatar and Zucker conversations start with a 1st. Top 6 scoring wingers with term always start there.
                    Kreider isn't worth that much to me, I don't think a middle 6 scoring winger that is a true rental is worth a 1st. I know the rangers want a 1st, but I dont think they get one.
                    San Jose is in cap hell. If they trade Labanc it will be for a 1st and a blue chip prospect. The penguins don't have a prospect like that to make San Jose listen.
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                    28 janv. 2020 à 10 h 54
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                    Kind of feel the guy with the most points of all players on this board is being sold for pennies on the dollar here....... if that's what your willing to pay then I can almost guarantee Tatar won't be a Pen.
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                    28 janv. 2020 à 11 h 1
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                    Quoting: brgh4life
                    Kudos on the effort, but you can pretty much take Galchenyuk out of any trade that would include a top 6 forward returning or a rental. He doesn't have that type of value as a struggling UFA. Tatar and Zucker conversations start with a 1st. Top 6 scoring wingers with term always start there.
                    Kreider isn't worth that much to me, I don't think a middle 6 scoring winger that is a true rental is worth a 1st. I know the rangers want a 1st, but I dont think they get one.
                    San Jose is in cap hell. If they trade Labanc it will be for a 1st and a blue chip prospect. The penguins don't have a prospect like that to make San Jose listen.


                    Thats what everyone said about Brassard too and look what we got back for him + a cpl picks.
                    - I mite agree w/ Tatar, maybe i did value him a lil low , but a 28yr old oft injured winger & small winger (like all Pens wingers) in Zucker w/ a bloated cap hit, that only hit 30 goals once in 9 yr NHL career, & only avg's .50 PPG in NHL, and coming off a broken leg ?? Is worth a 1st Rdr??
                    28 janv. 2020 à 11 h 1
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                    Quoting: F50marco
                    Kind of feel the guy with the most points of all players on this board is being sold for pennies on the dollar here....... if that's what your willing to pay then I can almost guarantee Tatar won't be a Pen.


                    I agree, I did value Tatar too low
                    28 janv. 2020 à 11 h 22
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                    Quoting: Sidstick87
                    Thats what everyone said about Brassard too and look what we got back for him + a cpl picks.
                    - I mite agree w/ Tatar, maybe i did value him a lil low , but a 28yr old oft injured winger & small winger (like all Pens wingers) in Zucker w/ a bloated cap hit, that only hit 30 goals once in 9 yr NHL career, & only avg's .50 PPG in NHL, and coming off a broken leg ?? Is worth a 1st Rdr??


                    Top 6 wingers with term on their contracts are moved for 1st rounders. Not sure his contract is bloated. Over the last 3 full seasons combined the only Penguins players with more 5v5 goals than Zucker is Crosby and Jake. His 5v5 point production during that time was exactly the same as Matt Duchene, David Krejci, and Nikolaj Ehlers. He produces and is worth a 1st.
                    28 janv. 2020 à 11 h 30
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                    Preds aren't going to trade Granlund straight up for a worse UFA.
                    28 janv. 2020 à 11 h 42
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                    That’s a terrible Labanc deal. Make it a first and a prospect and cut out the second we give. We can also take back Galchenyuk for free
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                    28 janv. 2020 à 12 h 28
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                    Columbus declines. If we are to trade Anderson it’ll be for picks or a younger player with control who’s also slumping, not a pending UFA who will just leave at the end of the season.
                    29 janv. 2020 à 10 h 20
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                    Quoting: brgh4life
                    Top 6 wingers with term on their contracts are moved for 1st rounders. Not sure his contract is bloated. Over the last 3 full seasons combined the only Penguins players with more 5v5 goals than Zucker is Crosby and Jake. His 5v5 point production during that time was exactly the same as Matt Duchene, David Krejci, and Nikolaj Ehlers. He produces and is worth a 1st.


                    There are only so many players "worth" a 1st Rdr or 1st Rdr Plus & Zucker just isn't one of those
                    29 janv. 2020 à 10 h 21
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                    Quoting: papishark
                    That’s a terrible Labanc deal. Make it a first and a prospect and cut out the second we give. We can also take back Galchenyuk for free


                    I prob agree... didnt think that one thru, lol
                    29 janv. 2020 à 10 h 27
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                    Quoting: Ajp_18
                    Columbus declines. If we are to trade Anderson it’ll be for picks or a younger player with control who’s also slumping, not a pending UFA who will just leave at the end of the season.


                    Just figured 2 extremely bad players rite now that need a change & maybe Chucky does good there & yinz can re-sign him on the cheap?
                    29 janv. 2020 à 10 h 28
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                    Quoting: gmgb
                    Preds aren't going to trade Granlund straight up for a worse UFA.


                    I think they are both not working out for both teams.
                    29 janv. 2020 à 10 h 43
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                    Quoting: Sidstick87
                    Just figured 2 extremely bad players rite now that need a change & maybe Chucky does good there & yinz can re-sign him on the cheap?


                    When does chucky go from needing a change to just not that good of a player? hes on his 3rd team in 3 years. i think its at this point his value plummets. Anderson is having a brutal year, most of that is injury related absolutely zero chance a trade for anderson happens where the main return is chucky.
                    29 janv. 2020 à 12 h 5
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                    Quoting: Sidstick87
                    There are only so many players "worth" a 1st Rdr or 1st Rdr Plus & Zucker just isn't one of those


                    Over the last 3 seasons combined -
                    Zucker - 68 goals, 66 assists, 65 penalties drawn, and 123 takeaways/80 giveaways
                    Kreider - 61 goals, 60 assists, 34 penalties drawn, and 66 takeaways/133 giveaways

                    One if these guys has term left on their contract, the other is a rental, but your 1st round value is on the wrong guy.
                    29 janv. 2020 à 12 h 9
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                    I’d go for a cheap rental winger because I don’t want to give up a 1st or overpay for a guy who won’t succeed here like a lot of players (ex: Brassard)
                    29 janv. 2020 à 14 h 11
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                    Quoting: Sidstick87
                    I think they are both not working out for both teams.


                    Yeah, but NSH isn't headed to the playoffs, and could get some value for Granlund in picks/prospects. Galchenyuk doesn't make sense for them.
                    30 janv. 2020 à 8 h 22
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                    Quoting: brgh4life
                    Over the last 3 seasons combined -
                    Zucker - 68 goals, 66 assists, 65 penalties drawn, and 123 takeaways/80 giveaways
                    Kreider - 61 goals, 60 assists, 34 penalties drawn, and 66 takeaways/133 giveaways

                    One if these guys has term left on their contract, the other is a rental, but your 1st round value is on the wrong guy.


                    And Kreider missed almost a whole season bc of blood clots too during that time, Plus Kreider brings so much more than a bloated cap hit... He would bring a physical element to this small forward group, he is faster than Zucker, he is a better net front guy on PP, Kreider is basically a bigger, faster Kunitz ... and that worked out well w/ Sid
                    30 janv. 2020 à 9 h 54
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                    Quoting: Sidstick87
                    And Kreider missed almost a whole season bc of blood clots too during that time, Plus Kreider brings so much more than a bloated cap hit... He would bring a physical element to this small forward group, he is faster than Zucker, he is a better net front guy on PP, Kreider is basically a bigger, faster Kunitz ... and that worked out well w/ Sid


                    In the same time span -
                    Zucker - G/60 1.19, A/60 1.16
                    Kreider G/1.17, A/60 1.15
                    Bloated cap hit? Top six forwards make over 5 million. That's how it works. You think Kreider isn't going to get 6 or more on his next deal? The only thing bloated is going to be the asking price for a rental from a division rival. Use your assets to get something with term.
                    31 janv. 2020 à 10 h 31
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                    Quoting: brgh4life
                    In the same time span -
                    Zucker - G/60 1.19, A/60 1.16
                    Kreider G/1.17, A/60 1.15
                    Bloated cap hit? Top six forwards make over 5 million. That's how it works. You think Kreider isn't going to get 6 or more on his next deal? The only thing bloated is going to be the asking price for a rental from a division rival. Use your assets to get something with term.


                    This yr, Zucker is regressing big and heading down and Kreider still strong - YES a bloated $5.5

                    Rates - Kreider - Zucker
                    CF/60 - 68.61 - 55.32
                    FF/60 - 51.53 - 41.93
                    SF/60 - 37.13 - 30.31
                    GF/60 - 4.45 - 3.72
                    GA/60 - 2.61 - 3.16
                    SCF/60- 34.16 - 25.2
                    HDCF/60- 14.12 - 11.53
                    HDGF/60- 2.61 - 1.67
                    MDCF/60- 26.73 - 18.22
                     
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