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Kreider to Boston

Date de création initiale: jan 27, 2020
Publié: Jan 27 at 3:44 pm
Équipe: 2019-20 Rangers de New York
Transactions
NYR
  1. Backes, David
  2. Miller, Kevan
  3. Vaakanainen, Urho
  4. 2020 1e round pick (BOS)
Détails additionnels:
$8.5M dumped for Boston and add a top 6 D to help scoring.
BOS
  1. Kreider, Chris
Détails additionnels:
Rangers add much needed LHD and add another first to their draft capital as well as absorb some salary to maximize return. Trading Strome and Georgiev help the deal cap space wise and help the team get better in the future.
NYR
  1. 2020 2e round pick (DET)
  2. 2020 3e round pick (SJS)
DET
  1. Georgiev, Alexandar
NYR
  1. 2021 3e round pick (MIN)
MIN
  1. Fast, Jesper
NYR
  1. 2020 1e round pick (DAL)
DAL
  1. Strome, Ryan
Rachats de contrats
  • Dan Girardi: 3 611 111 $
  • Kevin Shattenkirk: 1 483 333 $
  • Ryan Spooner: 300 000 $
  • Brad Richards: 0 $
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Vladislav Namestnikov: 750 000 $ (19%)
Enfoui
  • Brendan Smith: 3 275 000 $ (4 350 000 $)
  • Matt Beleskey: 825 000 $ (1 900 000 $)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2020
NYR
BOS
DAL
DET
NYR
DAL
SJS
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NSH
VAN
2021
NYR
NYR
NYR
BUF
MIN
NYR
OTT
NYR
NYR
NYR
2022
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2181 500 000 $73 908 133 $0 $8 912 500 $7 591 867 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
NYR
Panarin, Artemi
11 642 857 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 7
NYR
Zibanejad, Mika
5 350 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 3
NYR
Buchnevich, Pavel
3 250 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 2
NYR
Chytil, Filip
894 166 $
AG, C
RFA - 2
NYR
Howden, Brett
863 333 $
C
RFA - 2
NYR
Kakko, Kaapo
925 000 $
AD
RFA - 3
NYR
Lemieux, Brendan
925 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
NYR
Andersson, Lias
894 166 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
NYR
Kravtsov, Vitali
925 000 $
AD
RFA - 3
NYR
McKegg, Greg
750 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
NYR
Haley, Micheal
700 000 $
C
UFA - 1
BOS
Backes, David
4 500 000 $
C, AD
NTC
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
NYR
Skjei, Brady
5 250 000 $
DG
UFA - 5
NYR
Trouba, Jacob
8 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 7
NYR
Shesterkin, Igor
925 000 $
G
RFA - 2
BOS
Vaakanainen, Urho
894 167 $
DG
RFA - 3
NYR
Deangelo, Anthony
925 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
NYR
Lundqvist, Henrik
8 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 2
NYR
Lindgren, Ryan
925 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
NYR
Fox, Adam
925 000 $
DD
RFA - 3
NYR
Staal, Marc
5 700 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
BOS
Miller, Kevan
2 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 1

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27 jan à 15 h 46
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Wqrrior
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prepare yourself mate....

the stampede is coming
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27 jan à 15 h 50
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Quoting: Wqrrior
prepare yourself mate....

the stampede is coming

?
27 jan à 15 h 54
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Quoting: JokiharjuForNylanderLMAO
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bruins dont want kreider

they wont part with their best prospect to dump cap

miller should just sit on IR still

ive already tried getting kreider (without the inflated cost of including cap dumps) and it didn't go over well with the fans.
27 jan à 15 h 54
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Boston says No. Too much.

They don't really need to dump Backes. It would help, but not necessary.

assets vs buyout = They should be able to re-sign everyone and not move Backes.

Miller is a good player. Albeit always hurt, but a good player. He could get a 3rd or 4th rd pick from somewhere else.

Krieder for a 1st and a Zboril or Axelsson would be my deal. (any prospect other than Studnicka, Lauzon, Vaak, Beecher, Frederic or Lauko).

He would be a rental on an expiring contract set to hit FA. I have no doubt some team will overpay, but Kreider has never had more goals than 28 goals.

I don't see them moving Urho with Chara being 42 and Krug unsigned. He is the future on LD
27 jan à 15 h 57
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Just like last trade deadline and the one before and the one before, the prices arent these wild permutations. Kreider is going to go to 1 of Boston, Colorado, St Louis or mystery team 4 at 50% retained for a late 2020 1st Rd pick and a B-/B/B+ prospect. The price is the price and there are clearly teams willing to pay it.
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27 jan à 15 h 58
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I think it’s a bit too much. Not necessarily my opinion (though I’m leaning towards it), but Sweeney apparently freaking loves Vaak. Wouldn’t even discuss him or Studnicka in talks for Mark Stone last year. I don’t think you’re too far off however. Maybe a d prospect closer to the NHL but with a lower ceiling like Zboril. Lauzon might be a fit there, but I kind of feel like sweeney is in love with him too, and he’s looked pretty good in call ups this year. Lauzon is pretty legit, how about sub out Vaak for Lauzon, and add Andersson? I don’t really know where his value is at. High pick, but seems to have struggled. That said, the bruins need young centers like crazy.
27 jan à 16 h 08
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
I think it’s a bit too much. Not necessarily my opinion (though I’m leaning towards it), but Sweeney apparently freaking loves Vaak. Wouldn’t even discuss him or Studnicka in talks for Mark Stone last year. I don’t think you’re too far off however. Maybe a d prospect closer to the NHL but with a lower ceiling like Zboril. Lauzon might be a fit there, but I kind of feel like sweeney is in love with him too, and he’s looked pretty good in call ups this year. Lauzon is pretty legit, how about sub out Vaak for Lauzon, and add Andersson? I don’t really know where his value is at. High pick, but seems to have struggled. That said, the bruins need young centers like crazy.


Agree. Rangers fans like to point out Nash deal.

A) Spooner stinks and the Bruins knew it.
B) You are still paying Matt Belesky.
C) Lindgren and a 1st (pretty much what you said).
D) Nash would have worked and re-signed had he not had a career ending concussion.

They didn't give up a ton for Nash.
27 jan à 16 h 09
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Quoting: BSpadaro83
Just like last trade deadline and the one before and the one before, the prices arent these wild permutations. Kreider is going to go to 1 of Boston, Colorado, St Louis or mystery team 4 at 50% retained for a late 2020 1st Rd pick and a B-/B/B+ prospect. The price is the price and there are clearly teams willing to pay it.


Mean't to quote you...
27 jan à 16 h 09
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Quoting: Wqrrior
prepare yourself mate....

the stampede is coming


Don't warn him. Bots deserve to get the plug pulled out.
27 jan à 16 h 11
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Quoting: Propeller09
Agree. Rangers fans like to point out Nash deal.

A) Spooner stinks and the Bruins knew it.
B) You are still paying Matt Belesky.
C) Lindgren and a 1st (pretty much what you said).
D) Nash would have worked and re-signed had he not had a career ending concussion.

They didn't give up a ton for Nash.


not even a first and lindgren for nash, it was a first Spooner (LOL) and lindgren for a cap dumped belesky and nash.
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27 jan à 16 h 21
#11
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and boston is screwing themselves over!!
27 jan à 16 h 22
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Quoting: Propeller09
Agree. Rangers fans like to point out Nash deal.

A) Spooner stinks and the Bruins knew it.
B) You are still paying Matt Belesky.
C) Lindgren and a 1st (pretty much what you said).
D) Nash would have worked and re-signed had he not had a career ending concussion.

They didn't give up a ton for Nash.


The Nash trade was a disaster for Boston.
27 jan à 16 h 22
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Quoting: hanson493
not even a first and lindgren for nash, it was a first Spooner (LOL) and lindgren for a cap dumped belesky and nash.

Except it wasn’t really a cap dump.
27 jan à 16 h 35
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
Except it wasn’t really a cap dump.


not a full dump, the bruins retained some. but yeah it was shedding of a contract.
27 jan à 16 h 37
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Quoting: BSpadaro83
Just like last trade deadline and the one before and the one before, the prices arent these wild permutations. Kreider is going to go to 1 of Boston, Colorado, St Louis or mystery team 4 at 50% retained for a late 2020 1st Rd pick and a B-/B/B+ prospect. The price is the price and there are clearly teams willing to pay it.


I am a Rangers fan and this is EXACTLY what the return will be. Same as for Hayes last year. The only negotiation will be which is the best prospect they can possibly get back between a B- and A- type grade. Any team that gives more than that is a desperate overpay and the 1st rounder will be a the 25th - 31st pick. The Rangers will then package that pick with their own 1st to move up and grab someone in a position of need such as LW or C
27 jan à 16 h 46
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Quoting: hanson493
not a full dump, the bruins retained some. but yeah it was shedding of a contract.


They saved under a million bucks. It was a horrible trade for boston.
27 jan à 16 h 47
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Quoting: Rayjb159
I am a Rangers fan and this is EXACTLY what the return will be. Same as for Hayes last year. The only negotiation will be which is the best prospect they can possibly get back between a B- and A- type grade. Any team that gives more than that is a desperate overpay and the 1st rounder will be a the 25th - 31st pick. The Rangers will then package that pick with their own 1st to move up and grab someone in a position of need such as LW or C


I cant wait till the rangers price themselves out of the contender sweepstakes and end up letting kreider walk for nothing.
27 jan à 16 h 51
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Vaakanainen isn't moving.
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27 jan à 16 h 53
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
They saved under a million bucks. It was a horrible trade for boston.


uhhhhh what? beleskey had a 3.8m contract bruins got out from under almost 2m of what is dead cap hits. they also sold high on spooner. if nash doesnt get a career ending concussion he had a chance at being a force. he was a step late when he rushed back from the injury and then retired in the offseason.
27 jan à 17 h 15
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Didn't know Krieder was Gretzky 2.0....so bad, decline.
28 jan à 12 h 34
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Quoting: hanson493
uhhhhh what? beleskey had a 3.8m contract bruins got out from under almost 2m of what is dead cap hits. they also sold high on spooner. if nash doesnt get a career ending concussion he had a chance at being a force. he was a step late when he rushed back from the injury and then retired in the offseason.


Sending Beleskey to the minors saves what? 1.1 million or so? It’s right around there so I’m going to use that figure. So Beleskey in the minors carries a cap hit reduced from 3.8 to 2.7. They’re currently carrying 1.9 for retaining on Beleskey. 2.7-1.9= 800K.

That would be a savings of under 1 million dollars.
28 jan à 12 h 41
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
Sending Beleskey to the minors saves what? 1.1 million or so? It’s right around there so I’m going to use that figure. So Beleskey in the minors carries a cap hit reduced from 3.8 to 2.7. They’re currently carrying 1.9 for retaining on Beleskey. 2.7-1.9= 800K.

That would be a savings of under 1 million dollars.


1.1 now. i believe it was under a million 2 years ago? but still. thats an additional 800k that we needed for this year...
28 jan à 12 h 45
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Quoting: hanson493
1.1 now. i believe it was under a million 2 years ago? but still. thats an additional 800k that we needed for this year...


The bruins gave up spooner (laugh all you want, but at the time of the trade he had 25 points in 39 games), a good prospect who is now an NHL regular, and a 1st rounder. I think that would be enough assets to get rid of that entire 3.8 cap hit, don’t you?
28 jan à 13 h 00
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
The bruins gave up spooner (laugh all you want, but at the time of the trade he had 25 points in 39 games), a good prospect who is now an NHL regular, and a 1st rounder. I think that would be enough assets to get rid of that entire 3.8 cap hit, don’t you?


not with the term remaining on his deal. the rangers werent going to take 3.8m for the next 2.5 years for a guy that scored 3 goals in 63 games. spooner had a couple good progessing years but IDK about you but i could tell sitting up in the 300s that he wasnt a top 6 player and that he wasnt a center. he was too weak on the puck, similar reason donato is struggling in the nhl.
28 jan à 14 h 02
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Quoting: hanson493
not with the term remaining on his deal. the rangers werent going to take 3.8m for the next 2.5 years for a guy that scored 3 goals in 63 games. spooner had a couple good progessing years but IDK about you but i could tell sitting up in the 300s that he wasnt a top 6 player and that he wasnt a center. he was too weak on the puck, similar reason donato is struggling in the nhl.


A 1st, a good prospect, and spooner is enough to eat 2.5 years of 3.8 million. No question.
 
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