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Lightning are not trading Cirelli Sergachev - no NTC moved

Créé par: Zwui21
Date de création initiale: jan 27, 2020
Publié: 27 jan 2020 à 9 h 41
Équipe: 2020-21 Lightning de Tampa Bay
Explications
Coburn goes through waivers and goes to the minors, freeing up 1.1M of cap room.
Both Paquette and Killorn are dealt because none of the NTCs agree to waive
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Cirelli, Anthony34 125 000 $
Cernak, Erik22 000 000 $
Masin, Dominik2700 000 $
Stephens, Mitchell2750 000 $
Verhaeghe, Carter2750 000 $
Sergachev, Mikhail34 125 000 $
Martel, Danick1700 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Rutta, Jan21 250 000 $
Transactions
TBL
  1. 2020 5e round pick (FLA)
  2. 2020 4e round pick (ANA)
MTL
  1. Paquette, Cédric
TBL
  1. 2020 2e round pick (NYR)
  2. 2021 3e round pick (CAR)
CAR
  1. Killorn, Alex
TBL
  1. 2020 4e round pick (ARI)
  2. 2021 4e round pick (PIT)
ARI
  1. Joseph, Mathieu [Droits de RFA]
Rachats de contrats
  • Vincent Lecavalier: 0 $
Enfoui
  • Braydon Coburn: 625 000 $ (1 700 000 $)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2020
TBL
VAN
TBL
NYR
TBL
TBL
DET
ANA
ARI
FLA
TBL
OTT
TBL
2021
TBL
TBL
TBL
CAR
TBL
PIT
TBL
TBL
TBL
NSH
NJD
2022
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2183 500 000 $83 319 166 $0 $500 000 $180 834 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
TBL
Foote, Nolan
894 167 $
AG
RFA - 3
TBL
Point, Brayden
6 750 000 $
C, AD
RFA - 2
TBL
Kucherov, Nikita
9 500 000 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 7
TBL
Stamkos, Steven
8 500 000 $
C, AD
NMC
UFA - 4
TBL
Cirelli, Anthony
4 125 000 $
C
RFA - 3
TBL
Palat, Ondrej
5 300 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 2
TBL
Verhaeghe, Carter
750 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
TBL
Johnson, Tyler
5 000 000 $
AG, C, AD
NTC
UFA - 4
TBL
Raddysh, Taylor
833 333 $
AD
RFA - 1
TBL
Martel, Danick
700 000 $
AG
UFA
TBL
Stephens, Mitchell
750 000 $
C
RFA - 2
TBL
Gourde, Yanni
5 166 666 $
AD, AG, C
NTC
UFA - 5
TBL
Witkowski, Luke
700 000 $
DD, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
TBL
Hedman, Victor
7 875 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 5
TBL
Rutta, Jan
1 250 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
TBL
Vasilevskiy, Andrei
9 500 000 $
G
UFA - 8
TBL
Sergachev, Mikhail
4 125 000 $
DG
RFA - 3
TBL
Foote, Cal
925 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
TBL
McElhinney, Curtis
1 300 000 $
G
UFA - 1
TBL
McDonagh, Ryan
6 750 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 6
TBL
Cernak, Erik
2 000 000 $
DD
RFA - 3

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27 jan 2020 à 9 h 51
#1
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Offer sheet for both Cirelli and Sergechev 5 to 5.5 million. Cernak=Carllo 2.9 million. Cap my guess going to 83 max, you only have 21 signed. My math you need to shave another 5 million. Sergachev biggest worry. Someone will offer money and prime time. Hedman and McDonah sit ahead of him. Moving Serg to the right side possible but he seems has gone to the next level playing on the left side.
27 jan 2020 à 10 h 15
#2
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Based on what we've seen in the past, I think only three things need to happen and they aren't that unrealistic at all. Once again looking at the past here.


-TB needs to sacrifice one 4-5M player: Killorn. (Assuming Palat, Johnson or Gourde are 100% not waiving their NTC's. If they do waive, then no need to trade Killorn.)
-TB RFA's need to accept the hometown discounts that many others before them have shown to take. I'm not worried about OS. Players don't want to sign them unless they know the team is purposefully holding out on them. I don't think any of those guys will be pissed with Management not being able to give them 7M contracts. TB has the luxury of offering low taxes, a great team and great weather. Not too hard to accept a little less when you have all that.
-TB needs acquire a LTIR player. Much like Toronto did, TB could easily sacrifice a pick to a team like Ottawa and get a Gaborik type contract. It would alleviate a ton of pressure and allow them to dress 23 players and not worry about not running a full roster if someone gets injured but bad enough for IR/LTIR.


So I think Killorn should be easy to trade. Plenty of teams in the off season could use a guy like that. Might have to settle for a little less value because the caveat will be that they can't take salary back but that's not the end of the world. The RFA's have to accept the 2-4M short term contracts. judging by how others bought in, I don't see them being that against it. Finally sacrifice a draft pick to get someone's LTIR contract. Shouldn't be too hard either.

Obviously things may not go that perfectly but all we can go on is in a perfect world and adjust as things change.
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27 jan 2020 à 10 h 47
#3
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"Lightning are not trading Cirelli Sergachev"
that might be true, but they need to figure out how to fit these guys under the cap and getting them both done at just over 4 is a pipe dream IMO
27 jan 2020 à 10 h 48
#4
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Trouble with Cobourn theory, is that you really don't save 1.1m. He has to replaced in the lineup, so even a 800,000 player, then the cap saving is 300,000.
Sure Killorn can be traded but he's going to make as difficult to trade him. Most teams are at the cap, and can't take a player on cap free without making another move. As FMarco suggested, there might be a limited number of teams that can be this move, so the return won't be good.
It sure is going to be interesting how Tampa handles their cap this summer. Sure they would everything settled by the first week of July. But if last year is any indication, RFAs aren't signing early, they drag into training camp. So other teams aren't sure about their cap for next season maybe till October.
Either way, it sure looks like Tampa is going some players of the roster, and loss depth for 2020/21,,,which kinda happens in a cap league.
 
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