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Tatar to STL

Créé par: john_michael
Date de création initiale: jan 26, 2020
Publié: Jan 26 at 9:52 pm
Équipe: 2019-20 Canadiens de Montréal
Explications
Plausible, Blues fan ?
Transactions
MTL
  1. Perunovich, Scott [Liste de réserve]
  2. 2021 1e round pick (STL)
STL
  1. Tatar, Tomas
Rachats de contrats
  • Steve Mason: 1 366 667 $
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Marco Scandella: 2 000 000 $ (50%)
  • Ilya Kovalchuk: 350 000 $ (50%)
Enfoui
  • Karl Alzner: 3 550 000 $ (4 625 000 $)
  • Keith Kinkaid: 675 000 $ (1 750 000 $)
  • Matthew Peca: 225 000 $ (1 300 000 $)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2020
MTL
MTL
CHI
MTL
MTL
ANA
WPG
MTL
FLA
MTL
CHI
2021
MTL
STL
MTL
MTL
CHI
MTL
MTL
OTT
MTL
2022
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2581 500 000 $75 103 808 $0 $3 977 500 $6 396 192 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
MTL
Drouin, Jonathan
5 500 000 $
AG
UFA - 4
MTL
Domi, Max
3 150 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
MTL
Gallagher, Brendan
3 750 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
MTL
Byron, Paul
3 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
MTL
Danault, Phillip
3 083 333 $
C
UFA - 2
MTL
Armia, Joel
2 600 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
MTL
Lehkonen, Artturi
2 400 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
MTL
Weal, Jordan
1 400 000 $
C, AD, AG
UFA - 2
MTL
Weise, Dale
2 350 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
MTL
Kovalchuk, Ilya
350 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
MTL
Thompson, Nate
1 000 000 $
C
UFA - 1
MTL
Cousins, Nick
1 000 000 $
C, AG, AD
RFA - 1
MTL
Kotkaniemi, Jesperi
925 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
MTL
Poehling, Ryan
925 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
MTL
Suzuki, Nick
863 333 $
C, AD
RFA - 3
MTL
Teasdale, Joël
763 333 $
C
RFA - 3
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
MTL
Scandella, Marco
2 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
MTL
Weber, Shea
7 857 143 $
DD
UFA - 7
MTL
Price, Carey
10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 7
MTL
Chiarot, Ben
3 500 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 3
MTL
Petry, Jeff
5 500 000 $
DD
NMC NTC
UFA - 2
MTL
Lindgren, Charlie
750 000 $
G
UFA - 2
MTL
Kulak, Brett
1 850 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
MTL
Fleury, Cale
771 666 $
DD
RFA - 2
MTL
Mete, Victor
748 333 $
DG
RFA - 1

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26 jan à 21 h 57
#1
Not a burger anymore
Rejoint: oct 2017
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Not without MTL eating some salary
26 jan à 22 h 01
#2
Démarrer sujet
john_michael
Rejoint: avr 2019
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Quoting: BurgerBoss
Not without MTL eating some salary


manageable.
26 jan à 22 h 03
#3
Not a burger anymore
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Quoting: john_michael
manageable.


It's harder than you think, since Blues don't really have bad contracts to include to a trade...
26 jan à 22 h 18
#4
Rejoint: mai 2015
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Quoting: BurgerBoss
Not without MTL eating some salary


I'm going to say I'd rather the Habs look elsewhere if they have to retain salary if that's the case. I'd be more interested in a chance at a team with a higher pick. St Louis is poised to have a very late pick this year IMO. I'm perfectly fine retaining up to 50% if necessary but the team needs to be someone I feel confident won't make it past the 1st-2nd round of the playoffs if they are making the playoffs guaranteed. Teams like St Louis, Washington, Boston, etc I'd rather not take their offers unless the piece coming with their 1st is too good to decline.
26 jan à 22 h 31
#5
Démarrer sujet
john_michael
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Quoting: F50marco
I'm going to say I'd rather the Habs look elsewhere if they have to retain salary if that's the case. I'd be more interested in a chance at a team with a higher pick. St Louis is poised to have a very late pick this year IMO. I'm perfectly fine retaining up to 50% if necessary but the team needs to be someone I feel confident won't make it past the 1st-2nd round of the playoffs if they are making the playoffs guaranteed. Teams like St Louis, Washington, Boston, etc I'd rather not take their offers unless the piece coming with their 1st is too good to decline.


Agree. although I suggested a 2021 1st instead of a 2020. We never know what next year reserve us. Who would have said that the 1st SJ gave to OTT in the Karlsson would ended up being a top-10 ? Cuz it's likely going to.
ColonelX a aimé ceci.
26 jan à 23 h 01
#6
Rejoint: jun 2019
Messages: 47
Mentions "j'aime": 5
I think MTL can get more than this. I also think Pitts & Philly have better D prospects that I'd go after (Marino, PO Joseph, Addison, Zamula).
I actually saw Addison play last week and he's good, but small, like Perunovich.
And I for one am sick of having a small habs team.
27 jan à 1 h 16
#7
Billy739
Rejoint: déc 2017
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Quoting: BurgerBoss
It's harder than you think, since Blues don't really have bad contracts to include to a trade...


if only MTL was in a position to retain cap .... o wait :P

if they can get Tatar at 3-3.5m cap they'd take it
but we'd want more then a player who's just as likely to go UFA after NCAA next season.
even if he doesnt he's no where near NHL ready

MTL counters with
Tatar at 3m cap
for
Kostin
conditional 2nd round pick that becomes a 1st if STL makes SCF with Tatar playing 50% or more games.
3rd round pick
27 jan à 2 h 56
#8
Not a burger anymore
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Quoting: Billy739
if only MTL was in a position to retain cap .... o wait :P

if they can get Tatar at 3-3.5m cap they'd take it
but we'd want more then a player who's just as likely to go UFA after NCAA next season.
even if he doesnt he's no where near NHL ready

MTL counters with
Tatar at 3m cap
for
Kostin
conditional 2nd round pick that becomes a 1st if STL makes SCF with Tatar playing 50% or more games.
3rd round pick


It doesn't matter whether they can retain salary, STL has 0 money left when Tarasenko returns, they can't take salary basically at all.
27 jan à 7 h 59
#9
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Quoting: john_michael
Agree. although I suggested a 2021 1st instead of a 2020. We never know what next year reserve us. Who would have said that the 1st SJ gave to OTT in the Karlsson would ended up being a top-10 ? Cuz it's likely going to.


Most teams won't trade unprotected 1st rounders anymore because of San Jose and Ottawa learning the hard way. 2020 Draft is suppose to be special, Montreal should get a 2020 pick because not every team is going to fall off a cliff after trading an unprotected pick 2 years out.
27 jan à 9 h 23
#10
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Quoting: john_michael
Agree. although I suggested a 2021 1st instead of a 2020. We never know what next year reserve us. Who would have said that the 1st SJ gave to OTT in the Karlsson would ended up being a top-10 ? Cuz it's likely going to.


Oh yeah I missed that. thought it was 2020. Although I think getting the 2020 pick is paramount. This year is an incredible year according to many so that should be the priority for a team in need of a makeover. The uncertainty of 2021 is intriguing but I think banking on getting lucky isn't what you should do with your prized assets.
27 jan à 11 h 22
#11
Billy739
Rejoint: déc 2017
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Quoting: BurgerBoss
It doesn't matter whether they can retain salary, STL has 0 money left when Tarasenko returns, they can't take salary basically at all.


you think they wont move someone in a seperate deal to upgrade to a top line winger for their 2nd playoff run ?
thats how MTL usually does it regardless of cap because we are always just around the NHL contract limit with 3-5 players possibly needing contracts in 6 months .
 
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