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Date de création initiale: jan 25, 2020
Publié: Jan 25 at 10:51 am
Équipe: 2020-21 Sabres de Buffalo
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANNÉESCAP HIT
Johansson, Jonas1700 000 $
Oglevie, Andrew2700 000 $
Lazar, Curtis2850 000 $
Mittelstadt, Casey21 365 000 $
Montour, Brandon55 000 000 $
Olofsson, Victor34 000 000 $
Pilut, Lawrence21 050 000 $
Reinhart, Sam87 000 000 $
Ullmark, Linus33 250 000 $
Thompson, Tage1800 000 $
UFAANNÉESCAP HIT
Haula, Erik23 750 000 $
Biega, Alex1800 000 $
Transactions
BUF
  1. Kerfoot, Alexander
  2. 2020 4e round pick (TOR)
  3. 2021 6e round pick (TOR)
TOR
  1. Miller, Colin
  2. 2020 2e round pick (BUF)
  3. 2020 7e round pick (DAL)
BUF
  1. Ehlers, Nikolaj
WPG
  1. Ristolainen, Rasmus
  2. Thompson, Tage
  3. Davidsson, Marcus [Liste de réserve]
  4. 2021 1e round pick (BUF)
Rachats de contrats
  • Cody Hodgson: 791 667 $
  • Christian Ehrhoff: 0 $
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2020
BUF
BUF
TOR
BUF
BUF
2021
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
TOR
BUF
2022
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2384 500 000 $77 415 833 $0 $3 487 500 $7 084 167 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
BUF
Skinner, Jeff
9 000 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 7
BUF
Eichel, Jack
10 000 000 $
C
UFA - 6
BUF
Reinhart, Sam
7 000 000 $
AD, C
RFA
BUF
Olofsson, Victor
4 000 000 $
AG, AD
RFA
Haula, Erik
3 750 000 $
C, AG
UFA
WPG
Ehlers, Nikolaj
6 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 5
BUF
Johansson, Marcus
4 500 000 $
C, AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Kerfoot, Alexander
3 500 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 3
BUF
Mittelstadt, Casey
1 365 000 $
C
RFA
BUF
Asplund, Rasmus
845 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
BUF
Lazar, Curtis
850 000 $
C, AD
RFA
BUF
Okposo, Kyle
6 000 000 $
AD
NTC
UFA - 3
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
BUF
Dahlin, Rasmus
925 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
BUF
Jokiharju, Henri
925 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
BUF
Ullmark, Linus
3 250 000 $
G
RFA
BUF
Pilut, Lawrence
1 050 000 $
DG
RFA
BUF
Montour, Brandon
5 000 000 $
DD
RFA
BUF
Hutton, Carter
2 750 000 $
G
UFA - 1
BUF
McCabe, Jake
2 850 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
BUF
Borgen, William
864 166 $
DD
RFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
BUF
Oglevie, Andrew
700 000 $
C
RFA
Biega, Alex
800 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
BUF
Dea, Jean-Sébastien
700 000 $
C
UFA - 1

Unités spéciales

Avantage numérique 1
Mittelstadt, C.
Eichel, J.
Reinhart, S.
Dahlin, R.
Olofsson, V.
Avantage numérique 2
Skinner, J.
Haula, E.
Ehlers, N.
Johansson, M.
Jokiharju, H.
Infériorité numérique 1
Lazar, C.
Asplund, R.
McCabe, J.
Jokiharju, H.
Infériorité numérique 2
Kerfoot, A.
Haula, E.
Pilut, L.
Borgen, W.

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25 jan à 10 h 52
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Tim Murray trade for Ehlers ! No more overpayments
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25 jan à 10 h 54
#2
GM Hockeysaurus Rex
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I doubt Leafs would come even close to that. If Leafs do that Id personally fire Dubas into the sun.
25 jan à 11 h 07
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Quoting: SammyT_51
I doubt Leafs would come even close to that. If Leafs do that Id personally fire Dubas into the sun.


Just making room in your top 9 for Bracco unless hes traded for mcdavid first. Dubas is known to like miller (as was every leafs fan like 45 minutes ago). Kerfoot isnt exactly lighting the world on fire either
25 jan à 11 h 07
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Quoting: Swagmaster
Tim Murray trade for Ehlers ! No more overpayments


Except it isn't an overpayment at all
25 jan à 11 h 17
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I feel like that'd be a tough one for the Jets to pass on. The first rounder is key
25 jan à 11 h 18
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Except it isn't an overpayment at all


Sorry it is Risto's value is way up . This is a Tim Murray trade . Trading away too many assets when you do not have enough in the system . There is still a massive hole in the system thanks to Murray's bad trades and drafting. This type of trade is made when you have assets in the system to support it. The reason injuries hit so hard was lack of players ready to step in . Botterill's picks need to be in Rochester and ready to fill the voids left. This is not a team that is one player away from a Stanley cup run . Murray's accelerated rebuild set us back 5 years . You cannot make overpayments like this at this time.
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25 jan à 11 h 32
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Quoting: Swagmaster
Sorry it is Risto's value is way up . This is a Tim Murray trade . Trading away too many assets when you do not have enough in the system . There is still a massive hole in the system thanks to Murray's bad trades and drafting. This type of trade is made when you have assets in the system to support it. The reason injuries hit so hard was lack of players ready to step in . Botterill's picks need to be in Rochester and ready to fill the voids left. This is not a team that is one player away from a Stanley cup run . Murray's accelerated rebuild set us back 5 years . You cannot make overpayments like this at this time.


We are trading a mediocre RHD, a bust, a B prospect and a pick 2 years from now for a 60 point forward we desperately need, who is younger than ristolainen and locked up long term at a good price.
25 jan à 11 h 33
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Quoting: Swagmaster
Sorry it is Risto's value is way up . This is a Tim Murray trade . Trading away too many assets when you do not have enough in the system . There is still a massive hole in the system thanks to Murray's bad trades and drafting. This type of trade is made when you have assets in the system to support it. The reason injuries hit so hard was lack of players ready to step in . Botterill's picks need to be in Rochester and ready to fill the voids left. This is not a team that is one player away from a Stanley cup run . Murray's accelerated rebuild set us back 5 years . You cannot make overpayments like this at this time.


Again, we disagree on all of this
25 jan à 11 h 39
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
We are trading a mediocre RHD, a bust, a B prospect and a pick 2 years from now for a 60 point forward we desperately need, who is younger than ristolainen and locked up long term at a good price.


You are way off . Mediocre RHD - Do you watch the games ? A bust . Slow down trigger . Larger frame players often take longer to develop as they adjust to their frames . Think Chara and Pronger.Hardly a bust needs to get stronger on the puck and he will be fine. Davidsson is going to be fine Imagine Asplund with more offensive skills . Much like Olofsson developed and Asplund. And the pick when we still lack depth in the system . You are way too quick. You are gutting the system just like Murray did when we did not have the assets in the system to do so. Tim Murray is that you ?
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25 jan à 11 h 40
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Quoting: Swagmaster
You are way off . Mediocre RHD - Do you watch the games ? A bust . Slow down trigger . Larger frame players often take longer to develop as they adjust to their frames . Think Chara and Pronger.Hardly a bust needs to get stronger on the puck and he will be fine. Davidsson is going to be fine Imagine Asplund with more offensive skills . Much like Olofsson developed and Asplund. And the pick when we still lack depth in the system . You are way too quick. You are gutting the system just like Murray did when we did not have the assets in the system to do so. Tim Murray is that you ?


Again, we disagree on all of this, which is fine.

Maybe take a breath and go outside.
25 jan à 11 h 44
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Again, we disagree on all of this, which is fine.

Maybe take a breath and go outside.


I suggest you do the same . Your moves wreak of panic. And no long term vision.
25 jan à 11 h 47
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Quoting: Swagmaster
I suggest you do the same . Your moves wreak of panic. And no long term vision.


I mean my team here has 5 of 6 top 6 forwards locked up for atleast 3 years with room for mittelstadt, cozens, ruostalainen and whomever else to grow into roles. I added position flexible players on short term deals, I left room for dahlin and jokiharju contracts while having a top 4 largely intact and kept all my defensive prospects.

So, swing and a miss
25 jan à 11 h 54
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
I mean my team here has 5 of 6 top 6 forwards locked up for atleast 3 years with room for mittelstadt, cozens, ruostalainen and whomever else to grow into roles. I added position flexible players on short term deals, I left room for dahlin and jokiharju contracts while having a top 4 largely intact and kept all my defensive prospects.

So, swing and a miss


Sorry you just do not get or like the plan. We need system depth before making these type of moves . That depth is still being developed . Thanks to Murray's accelerated rebuild this organization was set back 5 years. You need depth before you make this type of move . The problem with the Kane and O'Reilly trades was not so much we overpaid . Which we did . But they were about 2 years too early. We are at that same place right now . You have to have the system depth to fill the voids left by these overpayments . We still do not have that.
25 jan à 11 h 57
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Quoting: Swagmaster
Sorry you just do not get or like the plan. We need system depth before making these type of moves . That depth is still being developed . Thanks to Murray's accelerated rebuild this organization was set back 5 years. You need depth before you make this type of move . The problem with the Kane and O'Reilly trades was not so much we overpaid . Which we did . But they were about 2 years too early. We are at that same place right now . You have to have the system depth to fill the voids left by these overpayments . We still do not have that.


Again, we disagree. I traded none of our top prospects and one of our surplus RHD for a young, excellent forward locked up for 5 years.
25 jan à 12 h 03
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Again, we disagree. I traded none of our top prospects and one of our surplus RHD for a young, excellent forward locked up for 5 years.


You leave far too many holes to be filled that cannot be filled at this time . I think we stay the course till we see what can be done with actual space this summer . There are trades to be made then with several teams that have RFA's to be signed and no cap space to sign them . Such as Cirelli in Tampa . And no players that can be moved to make space because No Movement clauses were given
25 jan à 12 h 04
#16
DickFoligno
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I never thought I’d want to fire an armchair GM...but that’s exactly what I’m gonna do....you sir are ****ing fired!

Ristolainen. And a first with two prospects for the Winnipeg Jets 5th leading scorer? If your paying that you better be getting a point a game centerman
25 jan à 12 h 06
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Quoting: Swagmaster
You leave far too many holes to be filled that cannot be filled at this time . I think we stay the course till we see what can be done with actual space this summer . There are trades to be made then with several teams that have RFA's to be signed and no cap space to sign them . Such as Cirelli in Tampa . And no players that can be moved to make space because No Movement clauses were given


I left no holes. Ruostalainen and cozens arent even on this roster, there is only 1 expiring contract in the forward group and I traded zero defensive prospects
25 jan à 12 h 08
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Quoting: Ristoeichel
I never thought I’d want to fire an armchair GM...but that’s exactly what I’m gonna do....you sir are ****ing fired!

Ristolainen. And a first with two prospects for the Winnipeg Jets 5th leading scorer? If your paying that you better be getting a point a game centerman


You can see my explanations throughout the comment section. Not doing this again.
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25 jan à 12 h 32
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
I left no holes. Ruostalainen and cozens arent even on this roster, there is only 1 expiring contract in the forward group and I traded zero defensive prospects


You left massive holes . Your overpayments are just absurd at this time in the rebuild. And if injuries hit us again ?. That is what hurt us this year . Still holes in the system left by this type of trade. The system as to be flush with NHL ready prospects to make this type of over reach. If you make this type of trade it can only be for a bonified 2c
25 jan à 13 h 51
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Quoting: Swagmaster
You left massive holes . Your overpayments are just absurd at this time in the rebuild. And if injuries hit us again ?. That is what hurt us this year . Still holes in the system left by this type of trade. The system as to be flush with NHL ready prospects to make this type of over reach. If you make this type of trade it can only be for a bonified 2c


Have a nice day.
25 jan à 21 h 40
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Good thing you included the 6th & 7th in the Toronto trade,
otherwise there’s just no way it gets done ???
25 jan à 21 h 42
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
We are trading a mediocre RHD, a bust, a B prospect and a pick 2 years from now for a 60 point forward we desperately need, who is younger than ristolainen and locked up long term at a good price.


If all that’s true,
the why on earth would the Jets make that deal???
 
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