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Boston Trades for Burns with retention for Backes and a 1st

Créé par: CheechYou
Date de création initiale: jan 24, 2020
Publié: Jan 24 at 2:53 pm
Équipe: 2019-20 Bruins de Boston
Transactions
BOS
  1. Burns, Brent (1 000 000 $ retained)
SJS
  1. Backes, David
  2. 2020 1e round pick (BOS)
Rachats de contrats
  • Dennis Seidenberg: 1 166 667 $
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Matt Beleskey: 1 900 000 $ (50%)
  • David Backes: 1 500 000 $ (25%)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2020
BOS
BOS
BOS
BOS
BOS
2021
BOS
BOS
BOS
BOS
BOS
BOS
BOS
2022
BOS
BOS
BOS
BOS
BOS
BOS
BOS
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $82 796 666 $0 $2 412 500 $-1 296 666 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
BOS
Marchand, Brad
6 125 000 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 6
BOS
Bergeron, Patrice
6 875 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 3
BOS
Pastrnak, David
6 666 666 $
AD
UFA - 4
BOS
Bjork, Anders
925 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
BOS
Krejci, David
7 250 000 $
C
NTC
UFA - 2
BOS
DeBrusk, Jake
863 333 $
AG
RFA - 1
BOS
Heinen, Danton
2 800 000 $
C, AG, AD
RFA - 2
BOS
Coyle, Charlie
3 200 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
BOS
Kuhlman, Karson
750 000 $
AD, C
RFA - 1
BOS
Nordström, Joakim
1 000 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
BOS
Kuraly, Sean
1 275 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
BOS
Wagner, Chris
1 250 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
BOS
Krug, Torey
5 250 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 1
BOS
McAvoy, Charlie
4 900 000 $
DD
RFA - 3
BOS
Rask, Tuukka
7 000 000 $
G
NTC
UFA - 2
BOS
Moore, John
2 750 000 $
DG
UFA - 4
SJS
Burns, Brent
7 000 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 6
BOS
Halák, Jaroslav
2 750 000 $
G
UFA - 1
BOS
Chara, Zdeno
2 000 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 1
BOS
Carlo, Brandon
2 850 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
BOS
Lindholm, Pär
850 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 2
BOS
Grzelcyk, Matt
1 400 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
BOS
Miller, Kevan
2 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 1

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24 jan à 14 h 55
#1
Banni
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RHD is already strong and scratching Grizz is hurting the left side. So pretty counter intuitive
24 jan à 15 h 00
#2
Domi in playoffs
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1. why tf is coyle 2nd line over krejci
2. Taking a defenseman/right wing off SJS's hands who got 83 pts last season and is on pace for 52 (!) points this season.
3. If you actually pull this off, Burns could become the 2RW that BOS has always been looking for
24 jan à 15 h 01
#3
Bcarlo25
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Just doesn’t really make sense
24 jan à 15 h 02
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Quoting: JokiharjuForNylanderLMAO
RHD is already strong and scratching Grizz is hurting the left side. So pretty counter intuitive


Either way you look at it Burns >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Grizz
24 jan à 15 h 08
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Boston would be doing San Jose a favor taking that horrid contract away from San Jose. Unless the Sharks are going to retain significantly more salary, Boston shouldn't be sending back a 1st in this trade.
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24 jan à 15 h 11
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Quoting: JokiharjuForNylanderLMAO
RHD is already strong and scratching Grizz is hurting the left side. So pretty counter intuitive


how are you justifying that this trade is bad for the bruins, like what
24 jan à 15 h 11
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Quoting: tkecanuck341
Boston would be doing San Jose a favor taking that horrid contract away from San Jose. Unless the Sharks are going to retain significantly more salary, Boston shouldn't be sending back a 1st in this trade.


such a joke
24 jan à 15 h 14
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people call leafs fan delusional meanwhile there are bruins fans are here justifying that this is a bad trade for the bruins, laughable
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24 jan à 15 h 20
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This is pretty funny. 8/10.
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24 jan à 15 h 21
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Quoting: vr1995
people call leafs fan delusional meanwhile there are bruins fans are here justifying that this is a bad trade for the bruins, laughable


It is a bad trade for the bruins. they would be adding soon to be 35 year old defenseman with 5 years left on his deal at 8m per (1m retention) He isnt great defensively it doesnt fit the bruins style of play etc.
24 jan à 15 h 24
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Quoting: hanson493
It is a bad trade for the bruins. they would be adding soon to be 35 year old defenseman with 5 years left on his deal at 8m per (1m retention) He isnt great defensively it doesnt fit the bruins style of play etc.


youre getting rid of the worst contract in the nhl and a late first round pick for burns, im baffled rn
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24 jan à 15 h 26
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Quoting: vr1995
youre getting rid of the worst contract in the nhl and a late first round pick for burns, im baffled rn


Backes' contract is far from the worst in the NHL.
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24 jan à 15 h 30
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Quoting: vr1995
youre getting rid of the worst contract in the nhl and a late first round pick for burns, im baffled rn


Well see it’s like this. Backes is gone next year one way or the other. Problem solved. I’d rather carry him for 1 more year than Burns for 6 at 8 til he’s 40. B’s are set on D. Don’t need him. Puts them over the cap when Miller returns and prevents them from being able to acquire what they DO need. So there’s that. Now if you want to do a 3 way where someone else gets Burns and B’s get a RW.....sure.
24 jan à 15 h 33
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Quoting: mondo
Backes' contract is far from the worst in the NHL.


sorry, one of the worst, guy cant crack a lineup, bottom line this is a great trade for the bruins, and anyone who thinks otherwise is dumb, especially the guy who thinks they dont need to add a first and backes for burns 1 for 1 is fair
24 jan à 15 h 37
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Quoting: vr1995
sorry, one of the worst, guy cant crack a lineup, bottom line this is a great trade for the bruins, and anyone who thinks otherwise is dumb, especially the guy who thinks they dont need to add a first and backes for burns 1 for 1 is fair


Boston is essentially taking on another contract which could end up being more of the same. Backes is up after next year and won't be an eyesore should they buy him out.

Seabrook, Lucic, Quick and Jones are all undisputedly worse.
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24 jan à 15 h 38
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Quoting: Gofnut999
Well see it’s like this. Backes is gone next year one way or the other. Problem solved. I’d rather carry him for 1 more year than Burns for 6 at 8 til he’s 40. B’s are set on D. Don’t need him. Puts them over the cap when Miller returns and prevents them from being able to acquire what they DO need. So there’s that. Now if you want to do a 3 way where someone else gets Burns and B’s get a RW.....sure.


i see what ur saying, but you also gotta think, berg is turning 35 this year, krejci is declining, you gotta think this true contender window is only open for another 3-4 years with their forward core aging, not saying they will go ****, but they wotn be as good as they are now. youre adding burns for a low first round pick, chara is leaving, adds veteran presence back there, and lets not kid ourselves, brent burns can still play good hockey . san jose is just awful this year.
24 jan à 15 h 40
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Quoting: vr1995
youre getting rid of the worst contract in the nhl and a late first round pick for burns, im baffled rn


how is the backes contract "the worst contract in the nhl"? Burns is a great pp scorer, a great offensive dman. Im telling you he doesnt fit the bruins scheme or list of needs. Ide rather mcavoy carlo and whoever at 3 rd. Talk about worst contract? what Burns contract going to look like when hes 37 or 38. yeah no thank you at all. we have plenty of capable dmen.
24 jan à 15 h 40
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Quoting: mondo
Boston is essentially taking on another contract which could end up being more of the same. Backes is up after next year and won't be an eyesore should they buy him out.

Seabrook, Lucic, Quick and Jones are all undisputedly worse.


lucic and backes are so close that is not even worth arguing whos is better, they both signed during a summer of all those big wingers signing those big deals, backes is an awful one, when youre paying a guy 6m and you put him on waivers, thats all that needs to be said.
24 jan à 15 h 41
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Quoting: vr1995
i see what ur saying, but you also gotta think, berg is turning 35 this year, krejci is declining, you gotta think this true contender window is only open for another 3-4 years with their forward core aging, not saying they will go ****, but they wotn be as good as they are now. youre adding burns for a low first round pick, chara is leaving, adds veteran presence back there, and lets not kid ourselves, brent burns can still play good hockey . san jose is just awful this year.


so what your saying is we should do exactly what put san jose in their predicament to begin with? Brent burns is not good on defense. You dont add more veterans signed to term to an aging group. that makes zero sense.
24 jan à 15 h 42
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Quoting: vr1995
i see what ur saying, but you also gotta think, berg is turning 35 this year, krejci is declining, you gotta think this true contender window is only open for another 3-4 years with their forward core aging, not saying they will go ****, but they wotn be as good as they are now. youre adding burns for a low first round pick, chara is leaving, adds veteran presence back there, and lets not kid ourselves, brent burns can still play good hockey . san jose is just awful this year.


Ok, but understand this. Our D is fine. And will be for years. Problems are elsewhere. Burns is a hinderance.
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24 jan à 15 h 46
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Quoting: vr1995
lucic and backes are so close that is not even worth arguing whos is better, they both signed during a summer of all those big wingers signing those big deals, backes is an awful one, when youre paying a guy 6m and you put him on waivers, thats all that needs to be said.


Lucic is signed for another 3 years. Backes is signed for another year. There is a major difference in these contracts.
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24 jan à 15 h 48
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Quoting: mondo
Lucic is signed for another 3 years. Backes is signed for another year. There is a major difference in these contracts.


now youre just nit picking, easily ONE of the worst contracts, no questions asked
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24 jan à 15 h 51
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Quoting: vr1995
now youre just nit picking, easily ONE of the worst contracts, no questions asked


I listed two other contracts in my post that you just ignored, but yes I am the one nitpicking because I don't think a guy with less than two years left that can easily be bought out is the worst contract.
24 jan à 15 h 57
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Quoting: mondo
I listed two other contracts in my post that you just ignored, but yes I am the one nitpicking because I don't think a guy with less than two years left that can easily be bought out is the worst contract.


then i corrected myself and said one of the worst which it is, he sucks ass and is getting paid 6 mil to do it
24 jan à 16 h 14
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Quoting: vr1995
people call leafs fan delusional meanwhile there are bruins fans are here justifying that this is a bad trade for the bruins, laughable


It is a horrible trade for the Bruins.

Backes' contract is bad, but Burns' is equally as bad. He is not a 70/80pt dman anymore. It will be 50 this year, 40 next, and so on. NOT WORTH 11M. Adding him at twice as much as Backes means they lose Krug.

The Bruins don't really need a RHD - Carlo and McAvoy are just fine as 1&2. No need to trade a #1 for a 3rd pairing RD. He's not, but he would be in Boston because you are not pairing him with Chara or Krug.

If this was 2014-15 It's a great deal. It's not. Burns is old and it shows. Bruins would be in the exact same situation they've been in with Backes for last 2.
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