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Carolina fans

Créé par: Dach
Date de création initiale: jan 22, 2020
Publié: Jan 22 at 11:26 am
Équipe: 2019-20 Blackhawks de Chicago
Transactions
CHI
  1. Haula, Erik
  2. Fleury, Haydn
  3. 2020 1e round pick (CAR)
CAR
  1. Saad, Brandon
  2. Gustafsson, Erik
Détails additionnels:
Replacement for Hamilton, and we take this route if we are forced to become sellers
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2020
CHI
CAR
CHI
CHI
CHI
CHI
2021
CHI
CHI
CHI
CHI
CHI
CHI
MTL
2022
CHI
CHI
CHI
CHI
CHI
CHI
CHI
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2081 500 000 $71 221 794 $0 $7 665 000 $10 278 206 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
CHI
Kubalik, Dominik
925 000 $
AG
RFA - 1
CHI
Toews, Jonathan
10 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 4
CHI
Nylander, Alexander
863 333 $
AD, AG
RFA - 2
CHI
DeBrincat, Alex
778 333 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
CAR
Haula, Erik
2 750 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
CHI
Kane, Patrick
10 500 000 $
AD, C
NMC
UFA - 4
CHI
Caggiula, Drake
1 500 000 $
AG, C, AD
RFA - 1
CHI
Dach, Kirby
925 000 $
C
RFA - 3
CHI
Carpenter, Ryan
1 000 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 3
CHI
Smith, Zack
3 250 000 $
AG, C
NTC
UFA - 2
CHI
Highmore, Matthew
775 833 $
C
RFA - 1
CHI
Kämpf, David
1 000 000 $
C, AD
RFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
CHI
Keith, Duncan
5 538 462 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 4
CHI
Boqvist, Adam
894 167 $
DD
RFA - 3
CHI
Lehner, Robin
5 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
CAR
Fleury, Haydn
850 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
CHI
Murphy, Connor
3 850 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
CHI
Crawford, Corey
6 000 000 $
G
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
CHI
Määttä, Olli
4 083 333 $
DG
UFA - 3
CHI
Koekkoek, Slater
925 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
CHI
De Haan, Calvin
4 550 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
CHI
Seabrook, Brent
6 875 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 5
CHI
Strome, Dylan
863 333 $
C
RFA - 1
CHI
Shaw, Andrew
3 900 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 3

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22 jan à 11 h 30
#1
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Not a good trade. Haula is not all that and a pure rental which the Hawks should not be in the market for. Fluery is a RFA and he's okay. Saad is better then either player easily. Gus for Fluery is decent I guess but Saad for a 1st and rental makes no sense.
22 jan à 11 h 31
#2
y i k e s
Rejoint: sep 2019
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Hell of an overpay for Carolina which is a lateral move
22 jan à 11 h 33
#3
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Quoting: ChiHawk
Not a good trade. Haula is not all that and a pure rental which the Hawks should not be in the market for. Fluery is a RFA and he's okay. Saad is better then either player easily. Gus for Fluery is decent I guess but Saad for a 1st and rental makes no sense.


Haula would extend to a cheap deal
22 jan à 11 h 37
#4
exo2769
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I wouldn't do this if I were CAR. Not that the trade value isn't there. I think it is. It's just that Fleury is getting more ice time now that Dougie is out. He's playing well as a cheap RFA. Don't trade him away. He can be a solid piece for a long time with CAR. Also, it's not like Dougie's out for the year. Bones heal faster than ligaments. He'll be back before the playoffs and CAR will have allowed their younger Dmen more ATOI to develop. Heck give Bean some NHL ice time.
Dach a aimé ceci.
22 jan à 11 h 41
#5
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Quoting: exo2769
I wouldn't do this if I were CAR. Not that the trade value isn't there. I think it is. It's just that Fleury is getting more ice time now that Dougie is out. He's playing well as a cheap RFA. Don't trade him away. He can be a solid piece for a long time with CAR. Also, it's not like Dougie's out for the year. Bones heal faster than ligaments. He'll be back before the playoffs and CAR will have allowed their younger Dmen more ATOI to develop. Heck give Bean some NHL ice time.


I respect your opinion. I just think this would mainly benefit Chicago just because this leaves room for Kubalik and Lehner to extend to big money
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22 jan à 11 h 42
#6
Hawks Fan
Rejoint: jui 2019
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I’d hardly call Gus a replacement for Hamilton. Hamilton was easily their best defenseman and Gus can barely be called one. I do like getting Fleury and a 1st though.
22 jan à 11 h 43
#7
Canes Baby
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This is very bad for the Canes.
22 jan à 11 h 48
#8
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Quoting: Jco5ta5
I’d hardly call Gus a replacement for Hamilton. Hamilton was easily their best defenseman and Gus can barely be called one. I do like getting Fleury and a 1st though.


Gus was a 60 point defenseman
22 jan à 11 h 53
#9
exo2769
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Quoting: Dach
Gus was a 60 point defenseman


He's not now. If CAR sees their PP decline. Then I could see Gus's value, but he's really an offensive Dman. Not a defensive Dman let alone a 2-way Dman.
22 jan à 12 h 22
#10
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Quoting: Dach
Haula would extend to a cheap deal


For what? We have Strome, Dach, Toews, Kampf, Carpentar....we don't need a center
22 jan à 12 h 24
#11
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Quoting: ChiHawk
For what? We have Strome, Dach, Toews, Kampf, Carpentar....we don't need a center


He’s a winger too
22 jan à 12 h 25
#12
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Quoting: Dach
He’s a winger too


Saad is a WAY better winger. No thank you on Haula. There is a reason Vegas let him go.
22 jan à 12 h 27
#13
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Quoting: ChiHawk
Saad is a WAY better winger. No thank you on Haula. There is a reason Vegas let him go.


My main point to trade saad is to free up cap
22 jan à 12 h 29
#14
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Quoting: Dach
My main point to trade saad is to free up cap


That makes zero sense if that's your main goal. Saad should be returning a 1st and a B+ prospect. So that value is there in the 1st and Fleury, but then trading Gus for Haula who we don't need (also a pure rental Hawks have zero rights to a UFA) and if you're going to play Haula on the wing that is a big downgrade from Saad. I'd rather have a 2nd round pick for Gus then to take Haula.
22 jan à 12 h 30
#15
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Quoting: ChiHawk
That makes zero sense if that's your main goal. Saad should be returning a 1st and a B+ prospect. So that value is there in the 1st and Fleury, but then trading Gus for Haula who we don't need (also a pure rental Hawks have zero rights to a UFA) and if you're going to play Haula on the wing that is a big downgrade from Saad. I'd rather have a 2nd round pick for Gus then to take Haula.


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