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PHI trades with TOR MTL and Nashville

Créé par: Hammerwise
Équipe: 2019-20 Flyers de Philadelphie
Date de création initiale: 21 janv. 2020
Publié: 22 janv. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
1.
PHI
  1. Juulsen, Noah
  2. Kulak, Brett
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2020 (ANA)
  4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (CHI)
2.
TOR
  1. Gostisbehere, Shayne
  2. Laberge, Pascal
  3. Myers, Philippe
  4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (CHI)
Détails additionnels:
1mil retained on Gotisbehere for 2019-2020
3.
NSH
  1. Braun, Justin
  2. O'Brien, Jay [Liste de réserve]
  3. Sandström, Felix
  4. Zamula, Yegor
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (PHI)
  6. Choix de 4e ronde en 2020 (ANA)
  7. Choix de 4e ronde en 2020 (NSH)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2020
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2021
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2022
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $66 234 761 $0 $3 357 500 $15 265 239 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
4 137 500 $4 137 500 $
AD, C
NMC
UFA - 3
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4 333 333 $4 333 333 $
C
UFA - 3
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 6
Logo de Predators de Nashville
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AG
UFA - 3
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
3 571 429 $3 571 429 $
C
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
8 250 000 $8 250 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 5
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 650 000 $$3M)
C, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
3 200 000 $3 200 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
AG, AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
2 300 000 $2 300 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
863 333 $863 333 $
C
RFA - 3
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
700 000 $700 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
4 725 000 $4 725 000 $
DG
UFA - 6
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
730 833 $730 833 $ (Bonis de performance132 500 $$132K)
G
RFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
863 333 $863 333 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
925 000 $925 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
1 150 000 $1 150 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance175 000 $$175K)
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
700 000 $700 000 $
DG, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
AG
UFA - 1

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22 janv. 2020 à 7 h 31
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After i saw TML trade i first had to check which your favourite Team is......your buddies will hang you for this one......
22 janv. 2020 à 8 h 6
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Quoting: Laudan
After i saw TML trade i first had to check which your favourite Team is......your buddies will hang you for this one......


Probably selected the wrong team from the drop down menusmile I know it's just fantasy but the Flyers are pretty high on Zamula and Myers. Braun will not be a big loss however.
22 janv. 2020 à 8 h 28
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Toronto accepts!!!!!
22 janv. 2020 à 8 h 39
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Yeah that's not gonna get you Flip Forsberg
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22 janv. 2020 à 8 h 43
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Horrible moves for Philly
22 janv. 2020 à 8 h 47
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Toronto accepts!!!!!


I'm not 100% convinced. Myers obviously has some nice potential but not sure he's quite ready for the #1 pairing minutes Toronto would have to give him. Ghost @ 3.5 is nice assuming he returns to his previous form, no guarantee of that happening (he hasn't looked awesome this year) and it's not a slam dunk he's that much better then Dermott right now. The prospect is a potential guy but already 21 and played in the ECHL this year, so no guarantee he turns out to be anything.

Kap is their major trade chip, they would have to be sure to be getting rid of him. I do think this trade probably makes Toronto better, but I would want to make sure this is the best possible deal before pulling the trigger. Losing Kap is bad and hurts the team, we should only move him if we're absolutely sure.
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22 janv. 2020 à 9 h 29
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Lollllll need more for Forsberg not a bunch of scraps
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22 janv. 2020 à 9 h 32
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If I am the Leafs, I would be more than willing to do Dermott and Kapanen for Myers and Laughton. A 2-for-2 deal, no extra pieces. For the Leafs, Dermott's LH spot would then be filled by Sandin permanently, and Laughton could take over 3C from Kerfoot, who would shift to the wing.
22 janv. 2020 à 9 h 33
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Toronto trade big Yikes for Philly. JVR for scraps? Cmon he’s 28 with 3 years left at 7m after this season that’s very manageable. Don’t need to move him for scraps. He leaves a big hole for Philly as a net front scorer if you move him.
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22 janv. 2020 à 11 h 15
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Quoting: newballcoach
I'm not 100% convinced. Myers obviously has some nice potential but not sure he's quite ready for the #1 pairing minutes Toronto would have to give him. Ghost @ 3.5 is nice assuming he returns to his previous form, no guarantee of that happening (he hasn't looked awesome this year) and it's not a slam dunk he's that much better then Dermott right now. The prospect is a potential guy but already 21 and played in the ECHL this year, so no guarantee he turns out to be anything.

Kap is their major trade chip, they would have to be sure to be getting rid of him. I do think this trade probably makes Toronto better, but I would want to make sure this is the best possible deal before pulling the trigger. Losing Kap is bad and hurts the team, we should only move him if we're absolutely sure.


That was my thinking, dermott for myers, is a Toronto gain, but ghost for kapanen is a philly gain, laberge and a 3rd probably a tad high.
22 janv. 2020 à 11 h 18
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Toronto trade big Yikes for Philly. JVR for scraps? Cmon he’s 28 with 3 years left at 7m after this season that’s very manageable. Don’t need to move him for scraps. He leaves a big hole for Philly as a net front scorer if you move him.

For me, I'm not a JVR fan, 7mil for a 25-30 goal, 45-50 pt guy is okay, but JVR is pretty one dimensional. To me, its cap space, its a young RH Juulsen, depth in Kulak, and two middling picks, basically a slight underpayment from MTL, but it frees PHI up cap space, to improve top six. But I see your point
22 janv. 2020 à 11 h 22
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Yeah that's not gonna get you Flip Forsberg


If things don't turn around in NASH, I don't think its too bad, Zemula is a very good d prospect who was great at the WJC, O'Brien is looking very good, man among boys versus weak competition, braun makes the salaries work and doesn't hurt NASH, Sandstrom is a solid goalie prospect, and a 2nd and 2 4ths is pretty good. IMO, its two good prospects, a hit and miss (sandstrom), a 2nd, 2 4ths and an expiring salary. Maybe, not enough, but not too far off
22 janv. 2020 à 11 h 34
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Overall, In my opinion, I think some of these are close, and work for both teams. To get value, you have to give value.

Overall, the flyers get cap space, get younger, have better offense, slightly weaker defense. Losing older JVR, Ghost and Braun, (only mid aged Forsberg, kulak coming back) while bring in Dermott, Kapanen, Juulsen, while losing prospect depth and young quality guys in Myers and Zemula. The Flyers lose a bit on defense, losing braun, myers and ghost, but bringing in dermott, juulsen and kulak. The loss at forward of JVR is offset by addition of Forsberg and kapanen. The flyers without Patrick and lindblom still have ample prospects at forward: ratcliffe, Allison, brink, frost, farabee and have a younger defense in the nhl with prospects like ginning, York, etc still to come.

I think it helps MTL with a top six goal scoring winger, it helps TOR with defense, it helps NASH with a good influx of quality prospects.
22 janv. 2020 à 13 h 25
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Quoting: Hammerwise
If things don't turn around in NASH, I don't think its too bad, Zemula is a very good d prospect who was great at the WJC, O'Brien is looking very good, man among boys versus weak competition, braun makes the salaries work and doesn't hurt NASH, Sandstrom is a solid goalie prospect, and a 2nd and 2 4ths is pretty good. IMO, its two good prospects, a hit and miss (sandstrom), a 2nd, 2 4ths and an expiring salary. Maybe, not enough, but not too far off


These guys are not even in your top 10 for prospects. Nashville has tons of average prospects already why would they need more. If they would look to move Forsberg they would be looking at top prospects and/or a good selections of picks. Quality over quantity
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23 janv. 2020 à 10 h 48
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Quoting: Hammerwise
If things don't turn around in NASH, I don't think its too bad, Zemula is a very good d prospect who was great at the WJC, O'Brien is looking very good, man among boys versus weak competition, braun makes the salaries work and doesn't hurt NASH, Sandstrom is a solid goalie prospect, and a 2nd and 2 4ths is pretty good. IMO, its two good prospects, a hit and miss (sandstrom), a 2nd, 2 4ths and an expiring salary. Maybe, not enough, but not too far off

No, it's not defensible. If you want a core player, give up a core player. None of those guys are core players nor are they likely to become such.
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