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Équipe: 2019-20 Sabres de Buffalo
Date de création initiale: 21 janv. 2020
Publié: 21 janv. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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MIN
  1. Girgensons, Zemgus
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2020 (BUF)
  3. Choix de 5e ronde en 2021 (BUF)
3.
BUF
  1. van Riemsdyk, James
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (PHI)
PHI
  1. Frolík, Michael
  2. Rodrigues, Evan
  3. Thompson, Tage
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (BUF)
4.
BUF
  1. Ceci, Cody
  2. Moore, Trevor
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (CBJ)
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2021
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2022
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $73 928 333 $0 $3 620 000 $7 571 667 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
767 500 $767 500 $ (Bonis de performance132 500 $$132K)
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
10 000 000 $10 000 000 $
C
UFA - 7
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
3 650 000 $3 650 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 8
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
2 275 000 $2 275 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
4 125 000 $4 125 000 $
AG, AD, C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
894 166 $894 166 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
C, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
775 000 $775 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
1 550 000 $1 550 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
3 875 000 $3 875 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
2 850 000 $2 850 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
1 325 000 $1 325 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
700 000 $700 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
700 000 $700 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
1 050 000 $1 050 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
1 300 000 $1 300 000 $
DD
UFA - 1

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21 janv. 2020 à 13 h 31
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Why would they tear it down
21 janv. 2020 à 13 h 32
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Shocking that this came from a leafs fan... Oh wait, no it's not.
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21 janv. 2020 à 13 h 34
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Quoting: ThomasChaney
Why would they tear it down


because they are bad
21 janv. 2020 à 13 h 35
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Shocking that this came from a leafs fan... Oh wait, no it's not.


is it shocking how close this is to reality? the JVR trade may be a bit off but the rest is good
21 janv. 2020 à 13 h 36
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Quoting: Jack_
because they are bad


Eh I haven’t watched any games but personally I don’t think they’re bad I just think it might take some time
21 janv. 2020 à 13 h 37
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Quoting: Jack_
is it shocking how close this is to reality? the JVR trade may be a bit off but the rest is good


Gotta admit the values on these trades are great
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21 janv. 2020 à 13 h 41
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Gotta admit the values on these trades are great


thanks. a lot of sabers fans on here think their bad players are great even though their not. I kind of just threw this together but theyve got some good pieces but they need to work on development. mittlestadt was absolutely awful but they kept him up for some reasons. they traded their good players away during the rebuild so when their high picks came up they had no base to build off of. ROR would be amazing for this team
21 janv. 2020 à 13 h 43
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Quoting: Jack_
thanks. a lot of sabers fans on here think their bad players are great even though their not. I kind of just threw this together but theyve got some good pieces but they need to work on development. mittlestadt was absolutely awful but they kept him up for some reasons. they traded their good players away during the rebuild so when their high picks came up they had no base to build off of. ROR would be amazing for this team


Yeah most of them do and it’s ridiculous. I also think it might take Mittlestadt some more time to get used to the NHL
21 janv. 2020 à 13 h 48
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Shocking that this came from a leafs fan... Oh wait, no it's not.


whats so horrible about it
21 janv. 2020 à 14 h 4
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Quoting: Jack_
whats so horrible about it


Risto for a cap dump and a winger with less production is a no.

Don't even know where to start with the Montour trade
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21 janv. 2020 à 14 h 9
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That Montour trade is appalling... We would have no interest in Ceci, JVR, Perreault or Hunt... These trades all do absolutely nothing for Buffalo. You don't trade a top 4dman to get a fourth liner as your only quality piece... If that was what we were gonna trade Risto for, it would have already happened... Lastly, giving up a 1st round pick for a winger on the wrong side of 30 is not "tearing it down"... You should probably try to get some kind of a clue before you post again bud because this is horrendous...
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21 janv. 2020 à 14 h 21
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Quoting: Jack_
because they are bad


Theyre 8 points out of a wild card spot and have been missing 2 of their top 6 forwards for a month. No
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Quoting: Jack_
thanks. a lot of sabers fans on here think their bad players are great even though their not. I kind of just threw this together but theyve got some good pieces but they need to work on development. mittlestadt was absolutely awful but they kept him up for some reasons. they traded their good players away during the rebuild so when their high picks came up they had no base to build off of. ROR would be amazing for this team


You traded Montour for legitimately nothing and Risto for a forward with less production than Risto, when theyve been good for Buffalo this year. Sabres would 1000% keep them if those were the offers. Especially if that leaves Miller as their #1 rhd. Sabres also have no need for the Minnesota trade at all and have no reason to give up a first for JVR, especially when you said to tear it down
21 janv. 2020 à 14 h 32
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Risto for a cap dump and a winger with less production is a no.

Don't even know where to start with the Montour trade


montour is awful, ceci has better xG numbers. at least buffalo could walk away from ceci, montour is an RFA. that goes without mentioning moore and a 3rd, buffalo wins and its not even close. i sorry to tell you the truth but hes never been good.

roslovic and perreault will turn it around when they get better opportunity. risto is hurting the sabers 5v5 and is on a pdo bender, he will come back down where as perreault has been extremly unlucky. roslovic will be very good in the future
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That Montour trade is appalling... We would have no interest in Ceci, JVR, Perreault or Hunt... These trades all do absolutely nothing for Buffalo. You don't trade a top 4dman to get a fourth liner as your only quality piece... If that was what we were gonna trade Risto for, it would have already happened... Lastly, giving up a 1st round pick for a winger on the wrong side of 30 is not "tearing it down"... You should probably try to get some kind of a clue before you post again bud because this is horrendous...


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You traded Montour for legitimately nothing and Risto for a forward with less production than Risto, when theyve been good for Buffalo this year. Sabres would 1000% keep them if those were the offers. Especially if that leaves Miller as their #1 rhd. Sabres also have no need for the Minnesota trade at all and have no reason to give up a first for JVR, especially when you said to tear it down


ceci>montour. hunt is very good and could be a 2nd pairing defenseman. perreault will regress and could be a valuable piece, roslo will be good. If JVR is used properly he wont decline that much in 4 seasons. if hes heavily sheltered and given tons of powerplay time with good players hes a lock for 60ish points. If you looked closely there is a 2nd in the philly trade, the expected value between a late 1st and an early 2nd (which is what could happen if they made this trade) isnt that different. especially a 2021 1st. thank you for the imput but maybe look closely and think about what is proposed before making statements like the one you made
21 janv. 2020 à 14 h 45
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ceci>montour. hunt is very good and could be a 2nd pairing defenseman. perreault will regress and could be a valuable piece, roslo will be good. If JVR is used properly he wont decline that much in 4 seasons. if hes heavily sheltered and given tons of powerplay time with good players hes a lock for 60ish points. If you looked closely there is a 2nd in the philly trade, the expected value between a late 1st and an early 2nd (which is what could happen if they made this trade) isnt that different. especially a 2021 1st. thank you for the imput but maybe look closely and think about what is proposed before making statements like the one you made


I can't even get past Ceci>montour. What exactly have you taken to believe this?
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21 janv. 2020 à 14 h 47
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montour is awful, ceci has better xG numbers. at least buffalo could walk away from ceci, montour is an RFA. that goes without mentioning moore and a 3rd, buffalo wins and its not even close. i sorry to tell you the truth but hes never been good.

roslovic and perreault will turn it around when they get better opportunity. risto is hurting the sabers 5v5 and is on a pdo bender, he will come back down where as perreault has been extremly unlucky. roslovic will be very good in the future


Be gone troll
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21 janv. 2020 à 14 h 53
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Be gone troll


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I can't even get past Ceci>montour. What exactly have you taken to believe this?


Hes awful offensively at 5v5 and on the PP. Below average defensively at 5v5, absolutely garbage on the penalty kill. Brutal penalty differential, terrible transitional play and hes a bad shooter.

So if hes bad offensively, below average defensively, terrible on special teams, bad puck mover, takes quite a few penalties without drawing many and not even a good scorer what is he good at?
21 janv. 2020 à 14 h 59
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Fletcher would accept that deal for JVR and run

Cap dump and a 1st. Plus Tage Thompson...
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Hes awful offensively at 5v5 and on the PP. Below average defensively at 5v5, absolutely garbage on the penalty kill. Brutal penalty differential, terrible transitional play and hes a bad shooter.

So if hes bad offensively, below average defensively, terrible on special teams, bad puck mover, takes quite a few penalties without drawing many and not even a good scorer what is he good at?


You're right, ceci is all of those things which means he doesn't get you a quality top 4 dman
21 janv. 2020 à 15 h 0
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Be gone troll


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I can't even get past Ceci>montour. What exactly have you taken to believe this?


At least ceci is a good penalty killer, better overall xG and better penalty differential
21 janv. 2020 à 15 h 2
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You're right, ceci is all of those things which means he doesn't get you a quality top 4 dman


Ceci isnt all of those things but hes better then montour
21 janv. 2020 à 15 h 6
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You can keep Girgensons in the Wild trade.
 
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