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The Big Buf conundrum

Créé par: masterjuddi
Équipe: 2019-20 Jets de Winnipeg
Date de création initiale: 17 janv. 2020
Publié: 17 janv. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Basically this is a hypotheical, where the jets find out before the deadline that Buf is not coming back (this season or next)and they are allowed to spend his cap space. Who could/should they target with the 7.6 mill space.
Thoughts? Ideas?
please remember this is just a hypothecial trade idea(s) to start a debate haha
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BUF
  1. Vesalainen, Kristian
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (WPG)
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WPG
  1. Subban, P.K.
Détails additionnels:
2 million retained
NJD
  1. McKenzie, Skyler
  2. Stanley, Logan
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (WPG)
  4. Choix de 4e ronde en 2022 (WPG)
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767 500 $767 500 $ (Bonis de performance107 500 $$108K)
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750 000 $750 000 $
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UFA - 1
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700 000 $700 000 $
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17 janv. 2020 à 10 h 40
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I think PK would come cheaper then that, especially if you're taking his whole cap hit.

They will also likely look at Petry if and when MTL decides to finally sell off.
17 janv. 2020 à 10 h 46
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Think you would either need to change that 2nd to a 1st or give us a better prospect/player for Risto
17 janv. 2020 à 10 h 59
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Subban is terrible, wouldn't give a 7th for him.

Not sure about Ristolainen, think he'd cost more then that to get.
17 janv. 2020 à 11 h 5
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With 7.6 mill in cap space it just makes more sense to look at UFA's. I'd rather keep my picks and prospects.
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17 janv. 2020 à 11 h 10
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Get a rental for this year and spend the cap hit on a UFA or 2.
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17 janv. 2020 à 11 h 12
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Quoting: Subbanator7667
I think PK would come cheaper then that, especially if you're taking his whole cap hit.

They will also likely look at Petry if and when MTL decides to finally sell off.


It would definitely be a buy low situation and personally I wouldn't want the jets to make this deal. Also, the deal is with 2 mill retained so he comes in at 7
17 janv. 2020 à 11 h 12
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With 7.6 mill in cap space it just makes more sense to look at UFA's. I'd rather keep my picks and prospects.


For next year for sure, but what about this year? just ride it out?
17 janv. 2020 à 11 h 17
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Yeah rent a guy cheap and spend the cash in the off aeason for a solid D at a reasonable price. Scandella , Edmonson, that kinda guy
17 janv. 2020 à 11 h 21
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Yeah rent a guy cheap and spend the cash in the off aeason for a solid D at a reasonable price. Scandella , Edmonson, that kinda guy


If its a rental, Vatanen is the guy...a decent RD and pretty much the only UFA RD that is on a losing team.
17 janv. 2020 à 11 h 35
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If its a rental, Vatanen is the guy...a decent RD and pretty much the only UFA RD that is on a losing team.


what would he cost? or what should the jets give up for him? If im Chevvy Im not giving up a 1st for a rental, but the jets still have a strong prospect pool
17 janv. 2020 à 11 h 56
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what would he cost? or what should the jets give up for him? If im Chevvy Im not giving up a 1st for a rental, but the jets still have a strong prospect pool


a prospect and a 2nd...If they think Stanley is expendable, him...
23 janv. 2020 à 16 h 3
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Quoting: masterjuddi
For next year for sure, but what about this year? just ride it out?


I think if you're saying absolutely anything about this year, it needs to be predicated on whether you actually think the Jets are serious contenders.

And the answer is no. Pionk, Poolman, and Morrissey are the only defensemen who belong in the NHL, and Poolman is not a top pairing defenseman. Niku does too in that he deserves and probably needs the experience to grow, but his play is not significantly affecting the Jets' defensive prowess.

Riding it out is far and away the best option. Laine, Roslovic, Poolman, Pionk have all made strides this season.
Next season Kulikov is off the books. Give Laine a 4M raise and sign him long term, trim the fat off of the roster and use the money to extend the other kids. Wait for Buff to make a decision about his future and then go sign a UFA if Buff leaves.
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