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Edmonton want Domi

Créé par: Tiekv
Date de création initiale: 10 janv. 2020
Publié: 10 janv. 2020
Équipe: 2019-20 Canadiens de Montréal
Transactions
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MTL
  1. Nurse, Darnell
  2. 2020 1e round pick (EDM)
EDM
  1. Domi, Max
Rachats de contrats
  • Steve Mason: 1 366 667 $
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Marco Scandella: 2 000 000 $ (50%)
  • Brett Kulak: 925 000 $ (50%)
  • Ben Chiarot: 1 750 000 $ (50%)
  • Ilya Kovalchuk: 350 000 $ (50%)
Enfoui
  • Keith Kinkaid: 675 000 $ (1 750 000 $)
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10 janv. 2020 à 16 h 19
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I think Montreal should take that deal.
10 janv. 2020 à 16 h 19
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I don't like that as MTL... Nurse is just a canadian version of Ristolainen and that first is a late one. No need to trade Domi anyway. He's made to play here and he's also one of the most exciting player to watch on this team. We need him
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10 janv. 2020 à 16 h 24
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I don't like that as MTL... Nurse is just a canadian version of Ristolainen and that first is a late one. No need to trade Domi anyway. He's made to play here and he's also one of the most exciting player to watch on this team. We need him


Fair offer, I’ll think about it if I was Bergevin
10 janv. 2020 à 16 h 30
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I'd rather keep Domi. He's not going anywhere!
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10 janv. 2020 à 16 h 30
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I don't like that as MTL... Nurse is just a canadian version of Ristolainen and that first is a late one. No need to trade Domi anyway. He's made to play here and he's also one of the most exciting player to watch on this team. We need him


That first isn't going to be that late though. I'd say EDM has no depth to make it past first round...
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10 janv. 2020 à 16 h 37
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That first isn't going to be that late though. I'd say EDM has no depth to make it past first round...


They very well could still miss the playoffs. Imagine how many games they'd win if McDavid got hurt.
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10 janv. 2020 à 16 h 40
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I doubt MTL takes this. Domi and Gallagher are the soul of this team. Neither of them will be moved for the next 5-7 years.
10 janv. 2020 à 16 h 40
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They very well could still miss the playoffs. Imagine how many games they'd win if McDavid got hurt.


Somehow I'd want to see that... Just how bad would they be without McDavid or Draisaitl.

I could accept them as a playoff team if they did as well as Pens are doing, without their 1C and 1LW (Crosby and Guentzel).
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10 janv. 2020 à 16 h 48
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I'll comment just to comment.

Domi isn't available. If you want him, blow us away. This includes giving us Yamamoto as a the starting piece. Then you still have to add good prospects and Picks.
10 janv. 2020 à 16 h 54
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Somehow I'd want to see that... Just how bad would they be without McDavid or Draisaitl.

I could accept them as a playoff team if they did as well as Pens are doing, without their 1C and 1LW (Crosby and Guentzel).


The Pens have actually NHLers in the other spots in their lineup. They can weather some injuries, if McDavid goes down, Edmonton would lose the vast majority of their games, if both McDavid and Draisaitl went down with injuries, the team may not win another game this season. The team hasn't won a game when those two were held pointless since 2017.
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10 janv. 2020 à 16 h 58
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i dont like it but its a fair value for both teams

Galchenyuk our #3 overall letdown becomes Domi
Domi becomes Nurse and a 1st .

by the time all is said and Done we'll get a better return then we every could have landed for Galchenyuk .

maybe make the first Conditional giving MTL the right to choose between a 2020 or 2021 first round pick .
10 janv. 2020 à 17 h 1
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The Pens have actually NHLers in the other spots in their lineup. They can weather some injuries, if McDavid goes down, Edmonton would lose the vast majority of their games, if both McDavid and Draisaitl went down with injuries, the team may not win another game this season. The team hasn't won a game when those two were held pointless since 2017.


Tells how sad bunch they actually are...
10 janv. 2020 à 17 h 1
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The Pens have actually NHLers in the other spots in their lineup. They can weather some injuries, if McDavid goes down, Edmonton would lose the vast majority of their games, if both McDavid and Draisaitl went down with injuries, the team may not win another game this season. The team hasn't won a game when those two were held pointless since 2017.


thats kinda his point
10 janv. 2020 à 17 h 4
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I'll comment just to comment.

Domi isn't available. If you want him, blow us away. This includes giving us Yamamoto as a the starting piece. Then you still have to add good prospects and Picks.


This mock was made by a Habs fan. "If you want him" doesn't apply here, Edmonton fans aren't making this offer. And it's too much anyhow, Holland would never go for this.
10 janv. 2020 à 17 h 8
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When you're making AGM's you need to think about the other team's needs and wants too. Does Edmonton really need another left shot center? So much so that they're willing to give up a top-pairing defenseman just entering his prime AND their 1st round pick in a deep draft?

I don't think so.
10 janv. 2020 à 17 h 14
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This mock was made by a Habs fan. "If you want him" doesn't apply here, Edmonton fans aren't making this offer. And it's too much anyhow, Holland would never go for this.


Really? I'd take Domi over Nurse all the time. Domi would be a great 2nd liner for you. Nurse is overrated and he's going to want way too much money.
10 janv. 2020 à 17 h 15
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I think Montreal should take that deal.


I wouldn't, although that first could be a good add, but Nurse isn't all that great, he's good but he's just a 2nd pair guy that is going to want 1st pair money.
10 janv. 2020 à 17 h 16
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When you're making AGM's you need to think about the other team's needs and wants too. Does Edmonton really need another left shot center? So much so that they're willing to give up a top-pairing defenseman just entering his prime AND their 1st round pick in a deep draft?

I don't think so.


The list of things Edmonton needs is pretty much everything except a franchise centre. Beyond that, they need it all and also more prospects and more draft picks and less bad contracts. Which is the whole issue facing the team, you don't have much coming up and you don't have enough on the team.
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10 janv. 2020 à 17 h 17
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Really? I'd take Domi over Nurse all the time. Domi would be a great 2nd liner for you. Nurse is overrated and he's going to want way too much money.


The trade above is Nurse + 2020 1st. That's too much, not going to happen. Also, look at Edmonton's needs: they have 2 - maybe 3 - left shot centers that are ahead of Domi on the depth chart, and not a single LHD that's ready to step into the spot Nurse would vacate. This move is pointless.
10 janv. 2020 à 17 h 18
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I'll comment just to comment.

Domi isn't available. If you want him, blow us away. This includes giving us Yamamoto as a the starting piece. Then you still have to add good prospects and Picks.


I was with you on this until you mentioned Yamamoto, if that is blowing you away, you should aim a lot higher.
10 janv. 2020 à 17 h 18
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The list of things Edmonton needs is pretty much everything except a franchise centre. Beyond that, they need it all and also more prospects and more draft picks and less bad contracts. Which is the whole issue facing the team, you don't have much coming up and you don't have enough on the team.


So trading away the 1st is a good idea? You can't have it both ways.
10 janv. 2020 à 17 h 19
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I wouldn't, although that first could be a good add, but Nurse isn't all that great, he's good but he's just a 2nd pair guy that is going to want 1st pair money.


Nurse plays 1st pairing.
10 janv. 2020 à 17 h 21
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The trade above is Nurse + 2020 1st. That's too much, not going to happen. Also, look at Edmonton's needs: they have 2 - maybe 3 - left shot centers that are ahead of Domi on the depth chart, and not a single LHD that's ready to step into the spot Nurse would vacate. This move is pointless.


Sure, and that is my point, you don't have anyone to replace Nurse, and you don't have any decent depth players up front, or on the farm, or on the right side of the defence or anywhere. I sincerely don't want you guys to get stuck in a situation where McDavid demands a trade but I honestly just don't know how you fix this disaster. The whole fact that the team hasn't won a game when McDavid or Draisaitl are kept pointless since 2017 is mind boggling.
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10 janv. 2020 à 17 h 21
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Nurse plays 1st pairing.


Not well
10 janv. 2020 à 17 h 27
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Edmonton absolutely says no. Maybe 1 for 1 but definitely not adding a 1st. And all these Habs fans trashing Nurse and the Oilers ???. Hope you enjoy paying Price 10.5 M for the next 7 seasons.
 
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