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Créé par: jluqueSF
Équipe: 2020-21 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 10 janv. 2020
Publié: 10 janv. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
3850 000 $
2850 000 $
3850 000 $
1700 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
32 850 000 $
1800 000 $
2775 000 $
21 375 000 $
32 675 000 $
1725 000 $
1725 000 $
1825 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
78 750 000 $
1900 000 $
Transactions
1.
TOR
  1. Gauthier, Julien
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (BUF)
CAR
  1. Hyman, Zach
  2. Choix de 6e ronde en 2020 (CAR)
2.
TOR
  1. Honka, Julius [Liste de réserve]
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (DAL)
Détails additionnels:
2021 2nd becomes a 1st rd pick if AJ scores +20 goals and +55 points in 2020-21
DAL
  1. Johnsson, Andreas
  2. Choix de 7e ronde en 2020 (STL)
  3. Choix de 5e ronde en 2021 (TOR)
3.
NSH
  1. Kapanen, Kasperi
  2. Scott, Ian
Détails additionnels:
scott or woll, whichever Dubas deems expendable
4.
PIT
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2020 (VGK)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Enfoui
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2020
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2021
Logo de TOR
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Logo de DAL
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2022
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2282 500 000 $81 809 783 $0 $400 000 $690 217 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
2 675 000 $2 675 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
11 640 250 $11 640 250 $
C
UFA - 4
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
10 903 000 $10 903 000 $
AD
UFA - 5
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
821 667 $821 667 $
AG, AD
RFA - 4
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
6 962 366 $6 962 366 $
AD
UFA - 4
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 375 000 $1 375 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AG, C, AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
775 000 $775 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
725 000 $725 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
900 000 $900 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
775 000 $775 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
825 000 $825 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
8 750 000 $8 750 000 $
DD
UFA - 7
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
2 850 000 $2 850 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
894 167 $894 167 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Predators de Nashville
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
G
UFA - 1
700 000 $700 000 $
DD
UFA - 1

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10 janv. 2020 à 12 h 33
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Is it just me, or does anyone else think trading either Woll or Scott is a bad idea. They both need seasoning and who knows how they may progress. Scott for me is very interesting. He's big, was utterly dominant in his last WHL season and I think could be our future. He's still so young and it often takes until their 23-25 before a goalie can really hit their stride.
10 janv. 2020 à 12 h 38
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Is it just me, or does anyone else think trading either Woll or Scott is a bad idea. They both need seasoning and who knows how they may progress. Scott for me is very interesting. He's big, was utterly dominant in his last WHL season and I think could be our future. He's still so young and it often takes until their 23-25 before a goalie can really hit their stride.


You’re not the only one.... goalies are hard to predict and you never know which ones are going to break through till they do. No way we should trade Tukka errr I mean scott or Woll..,.
10 janv. 2020 à 12 h 43
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Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
Is it just me, or does anyone else think trading either Woll or Scott is a bad idea. They both need seasoning and who knows how they may progress. Scott for me is very interesting. He's big, was utterly dominant in his last WHL season and I think could be our future. He's still so young and it often takes until their 23-25 before a goalie can really hit their stride.


I don't think too many intelligent fans want one of them moved. Woll has looked fine in the AHL and Scott has been a dominant CHL goalie. Now with Scott's surgery and recovery looming, he may never recover and play up to that level, but trading goalie prospects before you know what they will be is silly. You'll never get value and great goalies are hard to acquire. The Leafs have been awful for a decade at producing goalie talent, now we have two potential guys and people want to trade them away, I don't get it. If they both work out, great, if only one works out, that's fine too. But they need time.
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10 janv. 2020 à 12 h 44
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Quoting: Jamiepo
You’re not the only one.... goalies are hard to predict and you never know which ones are going to break through till they do. No way we should trade Tukka errr I mean scott or Woll..,.


Just because something could happen doesn't mean it will. Tolvanen had the best d+1 year in recent KHL memory, but that doesn't mean he's a sure fire Tarasenko copy. Funny how that reasoning seems to apply one way only.
10 janv. 2020 à 12 h 50
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You’re not the only one.... goalies are hard to predict and you never know which ones are going to break through till they do. No way we should trade Tukka errr I mean scott or Woll..,.


I really like what I've seen from Scott, his game is all about positioning and he's really big, he does get a little too active at times but I think with good coaching he doesn't have to do a lot to translate his game to higher levels. Woll is a bit more athletic but he's smaller and I think relies on his athleticism more which can mean making the jump to the pros a little harder, he hasn't been lights out in his first pro season but that doesn't mean a whole lot.
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10 janv. 2020 à 12 h 53
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I don't think too many intelligent fans want one of them moved. Woll has looked fine in the AHL and Scott has been a dominant CHL goalie. Now with Scott's surgery and recovery looming, he may never recover and play up to that level, but trading goalie prospects before you know what they will be is silly. You'll never get value and great goalies are hard to acquire. The Leafs have been awful for a decade at producing goalie talent, now we have two potential guys and people want to trade them away, I don't get it. If they both work out, great, if only one works out, that's fine too. But they need time.


The thing that blows my mind is that more often than not they are trading these guys for a 28 year old backup or some other older piece that isn't really going to do a lot of anything to help us. Most fans on this site though can't see beyond this year and maybe the next. After that the future doesn't exist and doesn't matter in their minds. All shortsighted goofs.
10 janv. 2020 à 12 h 58
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i guess that no one is looking at the 24 year old goalie that the Leafs get in return. This has been a down 20+ games for Saros; but his prior 78 were 2.50 GAA and +.920 Sv%; to me thats the goalie of 2021-2023 till Woll is ready; and Eeli is a high upside project at LW; I'm not advocating trading Woll/Scott; unless the leafs get an under 25 established NHL G back (Georgiev/Saros/Campbell)
10 janv. 2020 à 14 h 8
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Is it just me, or does anyone else think trading either Woll or Scott is a bad idea. They both need seasoning and who knows how they may progress. Scott for me is very interesting. He's big, was utterly dominant in his last WHL season and I think could be our future. He's still so young and it often takes until their 23-25 before a goalie can really hit their stride.


yeah, I personally would never trade for, or trade away a goalie spec, they're way to unpredictable, to trade away or trade for, and also are usually undervalued by other GM's because of their unpredictability, especially not with two as relatively highly thought of as Woll and Scott.
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10 janv. 2020 à 14 h 13
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yeah, I personally would never trade for, or trade away a goalie spec, they're way to unpredictable, to trade away or trade for, and also are usually undervalued by other GM's because of their unpredictability, especially not with two as relatively highly thought of as Woll and Scott.


Its also why goalies are rarely drafted in the first two rounds now a days. They are too risky to take there and the difference between an average and a great goalie is often the mental game and that comes with time. I'd hold on to both Scott and Woll for a while yet.
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10 janv. 2020 à 14 h 47
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THAT MAKES THE LEAFS WORSE
 
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