Why is everyone's making posts suggesting Kuzi? Also, trading Kempny is not a good idea... AT ALL.

Oh I’m not a fan of trading kuzy. I simply made this to see what our team would look like missing a top 15 center but adding a great RHD. Also capitals will have to trade kempny or Orlov to make room for alexeyev and Fehérváry. Kempny imo is the odd man out.

Maybe if the first was 2020 1st Detroit says yes. Vanecek is good a couple of articles I read say he is Hershey's best player but this is his fifth pro season and he still hasn't played 1 game in the NHL. Johansen has been second pair defenseman in the AHL for 3 seasons. Good skating, average skill and a average defender. Now he is still young and could end up being a good player. AA is pretty much the only valuable player Detroit can afford to trade so they need to get a good return. AA is still has 2 seasons until he is a UFA so Detroit doesn't have to trade him. So keeping him another season is a very good possibility because he is only 4 points off of last pace. Plus it's not just AA struggling it's the whole team. Detroit has scored 27 less goals than at this time last season. So you can say Detroit fans here are overvaluing AA but most the people who whine about that on this site would do the same thing if the situation was reversed.

Yeah I wasn’t sure if this would get it done. Main reason he hasn’t started is bc the capitals had grubby as a backup for a while and his only opportunity was last year now samsonov is the back up. He’s extremely good. I’d say he could easily turn into a grubby. Him and samsonov are great friends idk if the capitals would even want to move him for that reason. Luca jo is also victim to caps having to much talent he also got leaped frogged by Fehérváry who looks like he’s going to be a stud. I actually think the 2021 pick would be worth more bc capitals will be older and less likely to contend

Wild should take that and run. Even Dumba pre-injury last year wouldn't get Kuznetsov 1-for-1.

Wild would need to add something around 20oa in value to make the trade more even, is my guesstimate.

I don’t disagree with you. Now days I tend to overpay due to how sensitive people on this site are.

Yeah that makes sense about Vanecek. Now that you mentioned that would Washington trade him? I'm guessing they let Holtby walk and then Samsonov is your #1 and he is a very good goalie but this is his first season and he is only playing about a 3rd of the games. So if it was my choice I'd hold on to Vanecek until I'm sure Samsonov can handle the amount of games a starting goalie is expected to play.

I think they have faith in him since he played a few years in the khl. Who actually know though ha

This hurts my head because the Caps lose most of these trades on value, but the team looks good, if Dumba really can bounce back after being less good than Gudas this year or last.

what are these trades?? Dumba is worse than kuznetsov, AA is on pace to have a historically bad season, Bennett is way worse than Panik.

Agree with the player comparisons, but Bennett is a few years younger than Panik, with potential to improve? Dumba is four years younger than Gudas and, until last year, seemed better? AA is not as good as Kuznetsov. Could probably skip that part if it's that expensive, and just sign whatever 2C shows up in UFA?

edit: or work to get some kind of a center thrown in, somehow?

Gudas was nowhere near the player Dumba was last year. Dumba played 32 games with 12g/10a last year while playing on MNs top pair.

This year Dumba hasn't been good. He looks uncomfortable on the ice and on the bench. Not sure if he's still feeling the effects of his injury last year or something, everything is just a little off with him. It is similar to watching Suter play last season after his injury, he was just off because of it.

Dumba could easily bounce back and AA is having a bad year. Everybody has a bad year doesn’t destroy your value. Capitals are giving away barely anything and gaining a 50 point forward. The major disadvantage both players face are they are on awful teams. Dumba wouldn’t be asked to be a top pairing dman. His responsibility would less. You are comparing apple to oranges also. Kuzy value might be slightly higher Value but who’s to say he doesn’t fall on his face without he capitals great support wingers? Kuzy is a one dimensional offensive player. I love that but about him and I think he’s a top 10 center but this trade makes the caps better of dumba can play like he didn’t 2 years ago. The Bennett comment speaks for itself. Like comparing how terrible players and saying ones better.

Any middle six centers you could throw in? Not picky.

They also have Copley, who could start, too. They can afford to trade Vanecek for an immediate #2C if they think Athanasiou's plus/minus this year is more about how the Red Wings are playing than about what he's capable of.

I don't know about throwing in a 1st rounder, though. Vanecek and a 2nd? No problem.

Johansen? Sure.

I was saying if I was The Caps I'd hold on to Vanecek. Now I don't think 2nd gets it done simply because your pick will be one of the last 4 picks of the round. I think it's Caps v Bruins in the conference final and it will be a good series. I have no idea who will win because my Magic 8 Ball won't predict any thing past that.

That's okay. WSH only has Colorado's 2nd pick this year, which could be just as bad, but who knows....

Anyway, Pittsburgh is still the team to beat.

Not really. MN is short on centers, unless you consider Rask a middle-6 center (he's not btw).

Zucker is probably the most expendable FWD, but the cap wouldn't work at all.

Neat. I think over the summer the cap might work on that, if the value is close. The Caps just lose any chance to re-sign Holtby, unless Minnesota wants a thirty-ish wing back, in that.

MN is stocked with wings now. It's why Zucker can be moved.

Next year it'll be even more packed at wing if/when Kaprizov comes over.

Would Kuznetsov alone be worth Dumba plus Zucker? Because I think the Caps could almost make that work during the season, but they'd have to find a way to add a center.