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Caufield Debrincat Gaudreau

Créé par: Tiekv
Date de création initiale: déc 23, 2019
Publié: Dec 23, 2019 at 5:29 pm
Équipe: 2019-20 Canadiens de Montréal
Explications
Caufield = Debrincat shot and Gaudreau skills
Rachats de contrats
  • Steve Mason: 1 366 667 $
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Marco Scandella: 2 000 000 $ (50%)
  • Ilya Kovalchuk: 350 000 $ (50%)
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  • Karl Alzner: 3 550 000 $ (4 625 000 $)
  • Dale Weise: 1 275 000 $ (2 350 000 $)
  • Keith Kinkaid: 675 000 $ (1 750 000 $)
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Poehling, Ryan
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23 déc 2019 à 17 h 32
#1
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So essentially Caufield is a potential TOP5 player in the league in the future?

Classic Habs fan, overvaluing their prospects.
Hedman77, wojme, Dan10900 and 1 other person a aimé ceci.
23 déc 2019 à 17 h 33
#2
#DisruptTheNight
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Comparing a player in college to Johnny Gaudreau
23 déc 2019 à 17 h 34
#3
Démarrer sujet
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Quoting: TheChief
So essentially Caufield is a potential TOP5 player in the league in the future?

Classic Habs fan, overvaluing their prospects.



Yes he’s futur 50 goals Guy and 100 pts guy
23 déc 2019 à 17 h 38
#4
Analytics are good
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Caufield is going to be a PP merch with a good shot.
Dan10900 a aimé ceci.
23 déc 2019 à 17 h 41
#5
exo2769
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Modifié 23 déc 2019 à 19 h 01
What's more impressive than 4 goals in a WJC warmup is 3 goals in your NHL debut, but Poehling hasn't scored since.

I'd be a little cautious with the prediction. I'll be 100% honest and admit I do think he was the steal of the draft because 15th was too low for that talent, but let's also go down the list of things he had going for him today.

It's juniors
It's team USA vs Germany
It's a warmup
He's on a line with Turcotte the #5 OA pick.
He's very familiar with Turcotte because they're line mates at Wisconsin so even THAT's going in his favor.

You are certainly allowed to be excited. I wish the Hawks were able to draft him (not with the #3OA...just have another pick) Just don't etch his name on the Hart yet.
23 déc 2019 à 17 h 47
#6
Molson beer is meh
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Quoting: exo2769
What's more impressive than 4 goals in a WJC warmup is 3 goals in your NHL debut, but Poehling hasn't scored since.

I'd be a little cautious with the prediction. I'll best 100% honest and admit I do think he was the steal of the draft because 15th was too low for that talent, but let's also go down the list of things he had going for him today.

It's juniors
It's team USA vs Germany
It's a warmup
He's on a line with Turcotte the #5 OA pick.
He's very familiar with Turcotte because they're line mates at Wisconsin so even THAT's going in his favor.

You are certainly allowed to be excited. I wish the Hawks were able to draft him (not with the #3OA...just have another pick) Just don't etch his name on the Hart yet.


I'm not disagreeing with you at all, but just a side note that Caufield and Turcotte aren't linemates in Wisconsin. They keep the freshman players separated. They do play together on the PP though.
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23 déc 2019 à 17 h 48
#7
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easy to forget how bad you guys overvalue your prospects
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23 déc 2019 à 18 h 07
#8
john_michael
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Quoting: Hedman77
Comparing a player in college to Johnny Gaudreau


To be fair, he is having a quite similar freshman season than Johnny G. had when he was at Boston College so far.
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23 déc 2019 à 18 h 09
#9
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you are just all made that your team didn't take the little guy who will score in your net.
Stats talk about themselves, yess he had a player to pass him the puck so what? he will do more goal than a lot of majoritie of player anyway.
23 déc 2019 à 18 h 10
#10
john_michael
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Quoting: TheChief
So essentially Caufield is a potential TOP5 player in the league in the future?

Classic Habs fan, overvaluing their prospects.



To be fair, neither of Gaudreau or Debrincat are top 5 in the league
23 déc 2019 à 18 h 15
#11
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Quoting: exo2769
What's more impressive than 4 goals in a WJC warmup is 3 goals in your NHL debut, but Poehling hasn't scored since.

I'd be a little cautious with the prediction. I'll best 100% honest and admit I do think he was the steal of the draft because 15th was too low for that talent, but let's also go down the list of things he had going for him today.

It's juniors
It's team USA vs Germany
It's a warmup
He's on a line with Turcotte the #5 OA pick.
He's very familiar with Turcotte because they're line mates at Wisconsin so even THAT's going in his favor.

You are certainly allowed to be excited. I wish the Hawks were able to draft him (not with the #3OA...just have another pick) Just don't etch his name on the Hart yet.


That's not the point, nobody who see his potential care about 4 goal. the important point his

He is better than other better player of his age
its very good for his confidence
he will ameliorate his skills
he gets better and better each day wherever he play
he is the ****ing shooter that the canadien do not have since kovalev
and all that for a 5'7 guy 163lbs

Turcotte or jack hughe and cole caufield cant be compareted for the simple reason that they didnt are the same style playeur, not at the same position but we will only can tell that have him 15th will be a stole
23 déc 2019 à 18 h 16
#12
Not a burger anymore
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Quoting: Tiekv
Yes he’s futur 50 goals Guy and 100 pts guy


Lol. More realistic guess is that he's going to be a 30 goal, 50-60 point player.
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23 déc 2019 à 18 h 17
#13
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Quoting: Mtlstanleyin2072
you are just all made that your team didn't take the little guy who will score in your net.
Stats talk about themselves, yess he had a player to pass him the puck so what? he will do more goal than a lot of majoritie of player anyway.


I'm a PIT fan... We had no shot at drafting him, and I'm still not high on him... We don't even know if his shot that can beat junior goalies is sustainable in the NHL...
23 déc 2019 à 18 h 22
#14
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Quoting: TheChief
So essentially Caufield is a potential TOP5 player in the league in the future?

Classic Habs fan, overvaluing their prospects.


In a nutshell, some Habs fans are seeing Cole Caufield as tHe NeXt Maurice Rocket Richard. lmao
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23 déc 2019 à 18 h 23
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Quoting: AFOX10900
I'm a PIT fan... We had no shot at drafting him, and I'm still not high on him... We don't even know if his shot that can beat junior goalies is sustainable in the NHL...


i agree with you that its very to speedly to tell that he will make 800 goal nhl in his career!
But hockey amateur, pro or whatever cant tell that wherever he go, he score goal. ushl, usdp, WHJ-17 and 18, ncaa and we will see whj-20 goal goal and goal. i dont remeber that people telling that mattews will be not good as people said but look the stats its same or better for scoring in caufield stats
( im not tryng to tell that caufield is a mattews before everyone cry)
23 déc 2019 à 18 h 43
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Holy hyperbole
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23 déc 2019 à 18 h 49
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Inb4 Caufield is Yakupov 2.0
23 déc 2019 à 19 h 11
#18
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Quoting: Mtlstanleyin2072
you are just all made that your team didn't take the little guy who will score in your net.
Stats talk about themselves, yess he had a player to pass him the puck so what? he will do more goal than a lot of majoritie of player anyway.


Is this even english
23 déc 2019 à 19 h 21
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Quoting: papishark
Is this even english


Sorry yes im from montreal and i speak french not english. i do my best if you dont understand just.. dont read i dont know what to tell you
so no its not very even english
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23 déc 2019 à 19 h 34
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Quoting: Mtlstanleyin2072
Sorry yes im from montreal and i speak french not english. i do my best if you dont understand just.. dont read i dont know what to tell you
so no its not very even english


Alright your off the hook for that then, but your still overrating him here
23 déc 2019 à 19 h 41
#21
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Quoting: papishark
Alright your off the hook for that then, but your still overrating him here


I dont think, like other, he will does 50 goal per year and a 100 point. but im sure he will be important part for the canadien. not necessary his first years. he will needs maybe an other years in ncaa and 2-3 years in nhl to become which kind of player he can becomes but im sure its not to much saying that he have a 40 goals 70-80 point season in his full potential.
23 déc 2019 à 21 h 02
#22
Billy739
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Quoting: TheChief
So essentially Caufield is a potential TOP5 player in the league in the future?

Classic Habs fan, overvaluing their prospects.


you're not wrong
but you're not right either

Caufields gonna be a star as its not every day that of the 1000's of players to compete in the WJC since Ovechkin's tournament setting 14 goals only Caufields tied that number . That was about 6 months after shattering Phil Kessel's USHL points record . Maybe he wont be top 5 consistently but he's got the skill to make top 20 for sure . For MTL though we're optimistic because Caufield produced well by Centers like keller and hugher but when he played with Poehling he hit new level of offense . (at worst he's a Gallagher at best he's a Kane )
24 déc 2019 à 6 h 02
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His potential depend on his development and line mates. He is small, so he is more vulnerable to injuries and concussion. I don't wish him to be injured or a concussion

I would take the time needed to build him into a Gallagher 2.0 with skill if I was MTL GM, then is potential might be higher and for a longer period. He is probably work on adding muscles mass in the gym right now, the points on the ice are secondary (he is drafted). He need to prepare physically, they know already he can score goal.

Then when he is ready and played 1 full season (At least), we can compare Caufield potential to top NHL players
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24 déc 2019 à 22 h 28
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Quoting: john_michael
To be fair, neither of Gaudreau or Debrincat are top 5 in the league


I meant that if there's a player that's a "fusion" of Gaudreau's skillset and Debrincat's shot, that would be a TOP5 player in this league.
24 déc 2019 à 22 h 29
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Quoting: Tiekv
Yes he’s futur 50 goals Guy and 100 pts guy


Bwahahahahahahahaha you're completely delusional.

Caufield seems like poor man's Laine. Just way smaller.
 
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