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Équipe: 2019-20 Blackhawks de Chicago
Date de création initiale: 17 déc. 2019
Publié: 17 déc. 2019
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Revised the Leafs trade from another post
Transactions
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CHI
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2020 (OTT)
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CHI
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (CHI)
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2020
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2021
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2022
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2281 500 000 $64 743 462 $0 $6 707 500 $16 756 538 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 4
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3 200 000 $3 200 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
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778 333 $778 333 $ (Bonis de performance32 500 $$32K)
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance2 475 000 $$2M)
C
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
C, AD
RFA - 3
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2 625 000 $2 625 000 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 4
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3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
AG, C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
C
UFA - 2
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3 900 000 $3 900 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 3
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 3
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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5 538 462 $5 538 462 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 4
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
RFA - 3
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
4 550 000 $4 550 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
6 875 000 $6 875 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
700 000 $700 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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894 167 $894 167 $
DG
UFA - 3
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1

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17 déc. 2019 à 19 h 15
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Montreal isn't giving you a 2nd for Gus
17 déc. 2019 à 19 h 20
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Has Maata been that bad?
17 déc. 2019 à 19 h 25
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Quoting: Schlegel
Has Maata been that bad?


Not in my opinion I think he's been fine. I think people are trading him because Keith and Seabrook aren't going anywhere and there are too many D prospects making the transition next year.
17 déc. 2019 à 19 h 26
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Montreal isn't giving you a 2nd for Gus


You keep saying this and we keep trading him. You never offer an explanation. You just come here to say no to all the Habs trades and leave. Go somewhere else.
17 déc. 2019 à 19 h 28
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You keep saying this and we keep trading him. You never offer an explanation. You just come here to say no to all the Habs trades and leave. Go somewhere else.


Gustafsson is worth a 3rd round pick, nothing more and every Hawks fan are trying to get their 2020 2nd round pick back from MTL, it wont happen
17 déc. 2019 à 19 h 56
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Toronto will give you a 2nd for Gus + never mentioning Sandin in a trade ever again.
mokumboi a aimé ceci.
17 déc. 2019 à 20 h 12
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You keep saying this and we keep trading him. You never offer an explanation. You just come here to say no to all the Habs trades and leave. Go somewhere else.


I've explained it 500x but people just keep doing the trade. Figure I will just keep saying it until people get annoyed and stop doing it.
17 déc. 2019 à 20 h 18
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Toronto ain't doing that.
17 déc. 2019 à 20 h 49
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I've explained it 500x but people just keep doing the trade. Figure I will just keep saying it until people get annoyed and stop doing it.

We’ll all have a nice laugh if/when the trade goes through.
17 déc. 2019 à 20 h 51
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We’ll all have a nice laugh if/when the trade goes through.


It's not going through. Especially for that price. I imagine the blackhawks resign him.
17 déc. 2019 à 20 h 55
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It's not going through. Especially for that price. I imagine the blackhawks resign him.

Bowman can be a bonehead but hopefully not that big of one to resign Gus since they have Boqvist who is cheaper and has a higher ceiling.
17 déc. 2019 à 21 h 45
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Bowman can be a bonehead but hopefully not that big of one to resign Gus since they have Boqvist who is cheaper and has a higher ceiling.


Still can't see Bergevin even having interest in him. He doesn't want rentals and I don't see Gus as a guy who can play defense well enough to play in Montreal's system.
17 déc. 2019 à 22 h 9
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Gustafsson is worth a 3rd round pick, nothing more and every Hawks fan are trying to get their 2020 2nd round pick back from MTL, it wont happen


Last year trade Deadline-

Nick Jensen to Washington for a 2nd
Brandon Montour to Buffalo for a 1st and a B prospect
Ben Lovejoy to NJ for a 3rd.

Gus has his flaws defensively but I would have gus over any of those three guys.

You say he is worth a 3rd when recent trade history doesn't back up your theory.


I agree that Gus may not be the best fit with Montreal and a different dance partner is probably Chicago's best option.
17 déc. 2019 à 22 h 28
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Quoting: BankersBox
Last year trade Deadline-

Nick Jensen to Washington for a 2nd
Brandon Montour to Buffalo for a 1st and a B prospect
Ben Lovejoy to NJ for a 3rd.

Gus has his flaws defensively but I would have gus over any of those three guys.

You say he is worth a 3rd when recent trade history doesn't back up your theory.


I agree that Gus may not be the best fit with Montreal and a different dance partner is probably Chicago's best option.


Montour is way better than Gustafsson
Jensen is a little bit better than Gustafsson, but he's reliable defensively
Lovejoy is better defensively, who wants a guy horrible defensively comes playoffs ?
17 déc. 2019 à 22 h 51
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Montour is way better than Gustafsson
Jensen is a little bit better than Gustafsson, but he's reliable defensively
Lovejoy is better defensively, who wants a guy horrible defensively comes playoffs ?


Gus has played 20 fewer games than Montour, and has outscored him by 20 points,
Corsi For Gus 52.1 Montour 49.6. when Gus is on the ice his team has the puck more than when Montour is on the ice.

Goals against while on the ice at even strength Gus 164 Montour 145, Specifically last year Gus 84 Montour 76.


If the only knock on Gus is his defence, I dont see it in the stats. Gus primarily played on the #1 D pair last year where Montour was on the second d pairing behind Lindholm and Ristolinen.


I wont bother looking up Jensen or Lovejoy stats because I already have an idea of what they will be.

Change my mind.
17 déc. 2019 à 22 h 54
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Gus has played 20 fewer games than Montour, and has outscored him by 20 points,
Corsi For Gus 52.1 Montour 49.6. when Gus is on the ice his team has the puck more than when Montour is on the ice.

Goals against while on the ice at even strength Gus 164 Montour 145, Specifically last year Gus 84 Montour 76.


If the only knock on Gus is his defence, I dont see it in the stats. Gus primarily played on the #1 D pair last year where Montour was on the second d pairing behind Lindholm and Ristolinen.


I wont bother looking up Jensen or Lovejoy stats because I already have an idea of what they will be.

Change my mind.


you are an idiot change my mind. Every Hawks will tell you Gus is dog**** defensively. I wont lose my time with someone thinking Gus is better than Montour
17 déc. 2019 à 22 h 57
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you are an idiot change my mind. Every Hawks will tell you Gus is dog**** defensively. I wont lose my time with someone thinking Gus is better than Montour


Hostility.

I thought we were having a conversation.
 
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