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Créé par: Marincin_memes
Équipe: 2019-20 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 17 déc. 2019
Publié: 17 déc. 2019
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
1.
TOR
  1. DeSmith, Casey
  2. Choix de 6e ronde en 2020 (PIT)
PIT
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2020 (VGK)
  2. Choix de 7e ronde en 2020 (WPG)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (TOR)
2.
TOR
  1. Miller, Colin
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (BUF)
3.
TOR
  1. Honka, Anttoni [Liste de réserve]
  2. van Riemsdyk, Trevor
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (TOR)
CAR
  1. Barrie, Tyson
  2. Kapanen, Kasperi
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (TOR)
4.
TOR
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2020 (ANA)
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2021
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2181 500 000 $75 834 643 $0 $70 000 $5 665 357 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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925 000 $925 000 $
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11 634 000 $11 634 000 $
C
UFA - 5
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6 962 366 $6 962 366 $
AD
UFA - 5
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2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 6
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10 893 000 $10 893 000 $
AD
UFA - 6
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925 000 $925 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
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775 000 $775 000 $
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UFA - 2
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737 500 $737 500 $
AG
UFA - 2
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700 000 $700 000 $
C, AD
NTC
UFA - 1
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675 000 $675 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
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3 875 000 $3 875 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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675 000 $675 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
G
UFA - 3
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863 333 $863 333 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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2 300 000 $2 300 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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694 444 $694 444 $ (Bonis de performance70 000 $$70K)
AG
UFA - 1
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5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
AD
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17 déc. 2019 à 17 h 4
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Well... the defence is weaker... and so’s the offence. Hope desmith and Andersen can get shutouts on 50 shot games....
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17 déc. 2019 à 17 h 11
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and why does carolina need barrie
17 déc. 2019 à 17 h 20
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Pittsburgh you could probably get DeSmith for a 4th

Buffalo laugh you away, they only just got him from Vegas and they're in a playoff place right now

Carolina reject. Barrie and Kapanen aren't worth Honka and a 1st alone, TvR for the 3rd is workable though

Anaheim don't need Ceci, but you could probably leave him in Ottawa after they ship out Boedker, JGP and everyone with any value
17 déc. 2019 à 17 h 23
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Quoting: Jamiepo
Well... the defence is weaker... and so’s the offence. Hope desmith and Andersen can get shutouts on 50 shot games....


It goes back to the long standing CapFriendly rumour that ALL RHD in the NHL are better than the Leafs Dmen.
I'll take Barrie and Ceci for the rest of the year over Miller and TVR. Plus to lose Johnsson and Kapanenshakes head
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17 déc. 2019 à 17 h 34
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Buffalo probably accepted
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17 déc. 2019 à 17 h 35
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Buffalo laugh you away, they only just got him from Vegas and they're in a playoff place right now


The problem is that Miller now rarely plays due to the fact that we have a large overabundance of defenders and we need help forward, I would probably make this deal as a Buffalo fan.
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17 déc. 2019 à 17 h 42
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Quoting: palhal
It goes back to the long standing CapFriendly rumour that ALL RHD in the NHL are better than the Leafs Dmen.
I'll take Barrie and Ceci for the rest of the year over Miller and TVR. Plus to lose Johnsson and Kapanenshakes head


Barrie > Miller > TvR >>>>> Ceci
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17 déc. 2019 à 17 h 51
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Barrie > Miller > TvR >>>>> Ceci


Barrie has been the Leafs worse Dman this year, but again we get into the CapFriendly nonsense who look at past year point totals from previous years and make a determination of players current abilities.
Gee, I go back to last July and fans were saying how bad Ceci was a Leaf...and he hadn't even played a game.
17 déc. 2019 à 18 h 21
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Barrie has been the Leafs worse Dman this year, but again we get into the CapFriendly nonsense who look at past year point totals from previous years and make a determination of players current abilities.
Gee, I go back to last July and fans were saying how bad Ceci was a Leaf...and he hadn't even played a game.


Put Ceci and Barrie in here and try again
https://evolving-hockey.com/?_inputs_&dir=%22RAPM%20Charts%22&dir_rapmchrt=%22Compare%20Skaters%3A%20EV%22
18 déc. 2019 à 0 h 56
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Quoting: Jamiepo
Well... the defence is weaker... and so’s the offence. Hope desmith and Andersen can get shutouts on 50 shot games....


How is that defence weaker?

Miller and TvR are both better than Barrie and Ceci
18 déc. 2019 à 0 h 57
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Quoting: PenGoater99
How is that defence weaker?

Miller and TvR are both better than Barrie and Ceci


Ummm... no.
18 déc. 2019 à 1 h 26
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Quoting: Jamiepo
Ummm... no.


Please. Try to prove me wrong. I f*cking dare you to even try.

Oh wait, you can't because TvR and C.Miller both are miles better than Barrie and Ceci
18 déc. 2019 à 8 h 17
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Please. Try to prove me wrong. I f*cking dare you to even try.

Oh wait, you can't because TvR and C.Miller both are miles better than Barrie and Ceci


No... you can try to prove me wrong.
18 déc. 2019 à 15 h 8
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No... you can try to prove me wrong.


OK well here goes

From 16-19:

GA/60:
Miller: 0.007
TvR: -0.026
Ceci: 0.131
Barrie: 0.111

xGA/60:
Miller: -0.163
TvR: -0.08
Ceci: 0.094
Barrie: 0.16

CA/60:
Miller: -3.37
TvR: -0.84
Ceci: 3.51
Barrie: 2.42

C+/-:
Miller: 6.2
TvR: 1.64
Ceci: -4.79
Barrie: -2.12

So there you go. Miller and TvR are infinitely better than Barrie and Ceci over a 3 year sample.
18 déc. 2019 à 15 h 10
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OK well here goes

From 16-19:

GA/60:
Miller: 0.007
TvR: -0.026
Ceci: 0.131
Barrie: 0.111

xGA/60:
Miller: -0.163
TvR: -0.08
Ceci: 0.094
Barrie: 0.16

CA/60:
Miller: -3.37
TvR: -0.84
Ceci: 3.51
Barrie: 2.42

C+/-:
Miller: 6.2
TvR: 1.64
Ceci: -4.79
Barrie: -2.12

So there you go. Miller and TvR are infinitely better than Barrie and Ceci over a 3 year sample.


Not very worried about all the years they never even played with the leafs. Ceci is better than tvr and Barrie is better than miller. Especially in keefes system. Certainly looked much better than miller in last nights game....
18 déc. 2019 à 15 h 12
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Not very worried about all the years they never even played with the leafs. Ceci is better than tvr and Barrie is better than miller. Especially in keefes system. Certainly looked much better than miller in last nights game....


So you're not worried about the years they didn't play for the Leafs because it doesn't fit your narrative. Makes sense.

And why would you make an evaluation on players based on one game? Are you that dense?

You basically fell face-first into the recency bias pit and you still haven't shown a thing to suggest that Ceci and Barrie are the better players (which they aren't).
18 déc. 2019 à 15 h 15
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Not very worried about all the years they never even played with the leafs. Ceci is better than tvr and Barrie is better than miller. Especially in keefes system. Certainly looked much better than miller in last nights game....

Even just going by this year’s stats they are doing better. Much more so when you look over the last 12 games.

Anyone who thinks tvr is better than ceci and miller is better than Barrie does not watch or play hockey..,
18 déc. 2019 à 15 h 15
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So you're not worried about the years they didn't play for the Leafs because it doesn't fit your narrative. Makes sense.

And why would you make an evaluation on players based on one game? Are you that dense?

You basically fell face-first into the recency bias pit and you still haven't shown a thing to suggest that Ceci and Barrie are the better players (which they aren't).

Funny how it only fits your narrative when you add stats from better seasons..., hmmm
18 déc. 2019 à 15 h 21
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Funny how it only fits your narrative when you add stats from better seasons..., hmmm


Can you read? Honest question. I get that you're old and probably have -6 brain cells, but come on.

I included data from 2016-2019 to avoid recency bias (which is what you're falling victim to right now). Not my problem that Barrie and Ceci were dogsh*t those years
 
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