Quoting: Random2152
Njd got 3 b/c prospects, a 3rd and a 1st
The 3rd likely turns into a b/c prospect.
That is a total of 4b/c prospects and a 1st.
Grabner got 5 b/c prospects
Hall got more, but not a ton more. Those are very similar packages
Not sure you can quite compare these two trades evenly though. It could be said that despite those players never amounting to anything in the NHL, Toronto technically overpaid in that trade for Grabner..... based purely on prospect count and draft status of some of them. That was a weird trade in which everyone lost.....
The devil was in the details though.
Simply looking at those players, at the time of the trade, they weren't as highly touted as you can honestly say they were.
-Matt Finn - 21 - Split between AHL and ECHL. Had a stellar draft + 2 season but signs of not being worthy of an early 2nd round pick started early on when turning pro a full year prior to being traded. Decent value but it was fleeting my the end of the year.
-Taylor Beck - 24 - Put up decent numbers in junior and AHL but played mostly as a 4th liner with Nashville before going to Toronto. Solid AHL'er but nothing more than that and everyone knew it. held very little value.
-Tom Nilsson - 22 - Played half a year in the AHL and toyed with going back to Sweden. Ultimately went back to Sweden. Was only a 4th rounder anyway and was not on anyone's radar and held very little value.
-Chris Gibson - 22 - Had solid year with the Marlies before being traded but then again drafted high by the Kings and let go two years later as he signed as free agent with the Leafs. There was a reason for that. Really hard to tell what the value was here. Was playing well and had potential but came with an asterisk.
-Carter Verhaeghe - 20 - Had solid potential as his draft plus 1 and 2 years were pretty good. IMO looking at the time of the trade, he was the one with the highest potential but even then, being honest and using a little hindsight after the fact, there was a reason he had to spend time in the ECHL years after and only until this year at age 24 did he finally break in the NHL. His foot speed and attention to detail wasn't very good. IMO Verhaeghe has all star AHL'er but 4th line scrub NHL'er written all over him. Just like guys like Agostino, Reid Boucher, Chris Terry, etc
Now look at Arizona's players:
-Kevin Bahl - 19 - Putting up solid numbers in OHL. No reason to believe he won't be a decent NHL'er soon enough.
-Nate Schnarr - 20 - 100 point producer in the AHL last year, Just under 0.5 PPG in his first 20 pro games. Potential remains there for him to be solid NHL'er.
-Nick Merkely - 22 - Former 1st round pick but struggling to become "impact" player in the AHL not warranting of the 1st round status. BUT still decent point producer in the AHL so far though. People tend to write him off because he isn't living up to his 1st round pick status but its not like he isn't producing in the AHL. Creeping on bust but not quite there yet.
-2020 1st round pick - Projected to be anywhere between 20-30th. Very solid draft and potential for stud player.
-2021 cond. pick - Depends solely on Arizona winning a single round and resigning Hall. Resigning Hall may be a tough hing to do but they have plenty of players they can move out to make space if need be. Winning a round I feel is a good chance. I think the odds this at least upgrades to a 2nd is high with an ok chance of it being another unprotected 1st in 2021.
I think the picks and prospects in the Hall trade were way more calculated and precise and you may be overlooking where the value really is. its in the draft picks ore than it is the prospects.
Saying that "Hall got more, but not a ton more. Those are very similar packages" isn't accurate in the slightest. Yeah sure they both have 5 pieces in the deal but the quality is way more defined in the Hall trade and the promise of those pieces becoming quality are significantly higher. Regardless of where those picks end up, they drag the value in the trade up way higher than the Grabner return.
Did Shero get top dollar? No he did not. I absolutely agree that based on what we saw in previous years, he technically should have gotten more, but that isn't to say what he got was bad. It has potential to be really good. Just got to wait a little longer than most to know if it will or not.