Modifié 13 déc 2019 à 18 h 38
Okay, here’s my problem: bickell is ONE of the problems, not the biggest. The panarin trade still baffles me to this day and it is still worth noting that panarin was traded with two years left on his contract. That’s TWO years for bowman, supposedly a top GM in this league, to figure out how to fit him on another extension. But the joki nylander trade was the nail in the coffin. I’ve said this a million times, but there was ZERO logic attached to this trade. You trade a very promising defenseman for a winger that he went even close to a need. Sure a top six, but nylander isn’t a top six, he’s worthless. He may have made decent moves this offseason, but none of the players involved were players that were fits for this team, save for maybe de haan, and even then we got half of him with a badly injured shoulder. He’s had his chances guys.
Secondly, don’t kid yourself into thinking the upper management is the reason for this god awful product. Rocky wirtz adores this team and the fans. He always said that you have to spend money to make money. So it is definitely not on him or John McDonough.
Last, what exactly have SB and JC done to deserve the chance to do a rebuild?! JC uses the worst imaginable system possible to make the team worse and then he shows how miserable of a players’ coach he is by not adapting his system to his players. SB, on the other hand, just needs to go. I can’t stand watching him make moves and have them just get us no where fast. It’s old and stale. I never mind losing, but I want to believe there’s a guy out there I’d trust with a lottery pick that won’t waste it, or have millions in cap space and not waste that.
Well There's a lot that goes into this. Stan got Panarin FOR FREE. So no matter what point anyone brings up...Panarin falls under the WIN category for Bowman. You may not like the trade, but that's 99.9% hindsight. At the time MOST nhl fans thought he was being helped by Kane a lot. I mean half of his points came from Kane's passing. NOW we can look back to see the more complete player, but that's not easy. Saad's been a good player and it's not like Panarin was ever going to be a Hawk this year anyway.
The 2nd point you bring up is the single worst move Bowman's made in his career. Yes, Joki for Nylander was worse that Bickell and Tuevo. WHY? Because Teuvo also had weakness issues with the Hawks. He was getting called out by Shaw (and others) for being soft. We all saw his creativity when he has the puck, but I didn't see him getting to this level. Kudos to Trubo first and foremost, but back to the point. Joki's a stud. We all saw it last year. He's EXACTLY what they need right now too.
Name 1 single thing you can point to and say John McDonough was the guy that made it happen. Q? Bowman? Those are both losing arguments As a Cubs fan I know McDonough is a figure head and nothing more. He hasn't done anything bad because I honestly don't know what he does. I'd be fine firing him today. Rocky owns the team. He's staying and he's not the problem.
***EDIT*** My real problem with McDonough is...Stan and Q had friction. Friction is a GOOD THING if there's respect and it can be managed. The fact that it couldn't....That's 100% McDonough. AND ZERO% Q or Bowman. They are who they are. Management needs too....Manage.
The Blame was assigned to Q despite being one of the best coaches in the game. Don't make the same mistake by firing Bowman. Is he perfect...NO WAY, but he's a much better GM than most teams have.
JC i'm fine with getting rid of. I don't know who you bring in that makes me jump and down...Montgomery? I mean he was the guy that brought Ian Mitchell to Denver. BUT unless you're stealing a coach...who?
Bowman, What has he done? Take a look at this past offseason and find the top 5 trades in the offseason and the top 5 UFA signings in the offseason. I'd argue Bowman might be #1 on both. Lehner for $5M was HUGE and Carpenter for 3 years $1M is also really good. You and me both know that he's Carpy's been huge for this team. Trades..DeHaan for Forsling/Forsberg and Kubalik for a 5th rounder...
This team isn't good, but if he makes this TDL a productive SELL and shed's Smith and gets serious picks...I wouldn't fire him. If he lets Gus/Lehner/Crow walk for free. That's when I would fire him. WHY THEN? Because Stan's previous faults were believe in his guys too much. It's why Bickell got that contract and it's why Seabs got his contract. If he doesn't sell then he's proving he didn't learn anything and he believes in this team MORE than reality shows.