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Give Bo a winger

Créé par: Frog_guy
Date de création initiale: déc 7, 2019
Publié: Dec 7, 2019 at 10:55 pm
Équipe: 2019-20 Canucks de Vancouver
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VAN
  1. 2020 2e round pick (MTL)
MTL
  1. Sutter, Brandon
VAN
  1. Palmieri, Kyle
NJD
  1. Virtanen, Jake
  2. 2020 4e round pick (VAN)
  3. 2020 2e round pick (MTL)
Rachats de contrats
  • Ryan Spooner: 1 033 333 $
Frais appliqués
  • Roberto Luongo: 3 033 206 $
Enfoui
  • Sven Baertschi: 2 291 666 $ (3 366 666 $)
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2481 500 000 $81 169 873 $0 $4 732 500 $330 127 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
VAN
Miller, J.T.
5 250 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 4
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Pettersson, Elias
925 000 $
C
RFA - 2
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Boeser, Brock
5 875 000 $
AD
RFA - 3
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Pearson, Tanner
3 750 000 $
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UFA - 2
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Horvat, Bo
5 500 000 $
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UFA - 4
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Palmieri, Kyle
4 650 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 2
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Roussel, Antoine
3 000 000 $
AG
NTC
UFA - 3
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Gaudette, Adam
916 667 $
C
RFA - 1
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Leivo, Josh
1 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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Ferland, Micheal
3 500 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 4
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Beagle, Jay
3 000 000 $
C
NTC
UFA - 3
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Motte, Tyler
975 000 $
AD, AG, C
RFA - 1
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Eriksson, Loui
6 000 000 $
AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 3
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Schaller, Tim
1 900 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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Edler, Alexander
6 000 000 $
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NMC
UFA - 2
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Myers, Tyler
6 000 000 $
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NMC
UFA - 5
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Markström, Jacob
3 666 667 $
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UFA - 1
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Benn, Jordie
2 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
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Tanev, Christopher
4 450 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 1
VAN
Demko, Thatcher
1 050 000 $
G
RFA - 2
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Hughes, Quinn
916 667 $
DG
RFA - 2
VAN
Stecher, Troy
2 325 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
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DiPietro, Michael
811 667 $
G
RFA - 3
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Fantenberg, Oscar
850 000 $
DG
UFA - 1

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7 déc 2019 à 23 h 03
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That’s an easy no from both.

You will have to pay someone to take Sutter. 2nd and an JV does not get KP. 4th does not make up the difference.
7 déc 2019 à 23 h 05
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How about Galchenyuk for Virtanen
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7 déc 2019 à 23 h 06
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That Mtl trade is brutal for them. They already have 4 bottom line centermen...plus this guy is always hurt.
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7 déc 2019 à 23 h 34
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Quoting: Gofnut999
That’s an easy no from both.

You will have to pay someone to take Sutter. 2nd and an JV does not get KP. 4th does not make up the difference.


Theres no way Sutter has negative value. Solid 3rd line centre who can help them keep the puck out of their net. Biggest thing going against him is he is overpaid, but habs have cap space, a ton of picks, and should want to push for the playoffs.
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8 déc 2019 à 0 h 06
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Quoting: Frog_guy
Theres no way Sutter has negative value. Solid 3rd line centre who can help them keep the puck out of their net. Biggest thing going against him is he is overpaid, but habs have cap space, a ton of picks, and should want to push for the playoffs.


I agree with you but Van probably needs to keep Sutter for all the reasons you listed.
8 déc 2019 à 19 h 55
#6
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
I agree with you but Van probably needs to keep Sutter for all the reasons you listed.

Nope. Pettersson, Horvat, Gaudette, Beagle, Schaller, MacEwan. We wouldn’t need Sutter
8 déc 2019 à 20 h 39
#7
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Quoting: JummMinger
Nope. Pettersson, Horvat, Gaudette, Beagle, Schaller, MacEwan. We wouldn’t need Sutter


Schaller and Macewan have barely established themselves as NHLers.. Lol.. And Gaudette isn't exactly ready to go and play a shutdown game against other team's top players if that's even the kind of game he plays, having a center like Sutter is pretty valuable especially in the playoffs.
8 déc 2019 à 20 h 57
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Montreal easily reject. You aren't going to get a 2nd round pick for something we already have tons of
8 déc 2019 à 21 h 30
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Quoting: HabsForEver
Montreal easily reject. You aren't going to get a 2nd round pick for something we already have tons of


Do you though? Granted I dont watch your games, but KK had been struggling as 3C before the injury and Suzuki might be legit but I don't imagine him being a dependable guy in the D zone. You wanna hold your picks, but Price and Weber are gonna keep getting older, and theres spots in the atlantic up for grabs why not try and get someone to help win?
8 déc 2019 à 21 h 31
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Schaller and Macewan have barely established themselves as NHLers.. Lol.. And Gaudette isn't exactly ready to go and play a shutdown game against other team's top players if that's even the kind of game he plays, having a center like Sutter is pretty valuable especially in the playoffs.


I agree he is useful, but we got Beagle which just sorta makes him redundant. Dont see him bumping gaudette off 3C so then hes probably a 3rd line winger, Id much rather try and turn that into a 2nd line winger, and NJ is gonna blow it up .
8 déc 2019 à 21 h 36
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Quoting: Frog_guy
Do you though? Granted I dont watch your games, but KK had been struggling as 3C before the injury and Suzuki might be legit but I don't imagine him being a dependable guy in the D zone. You wanna hold your picks, but Price and Weber are gonna keep getting older, and theres spots in the atlantic up for grabs why not try and get someone to help win?


Wait are you serious?

KK doesn't have to put up points. He started out the season poorly. but right before his injury, his offense was starting to come again.

Suzuki is more dependable in his own zone than he is in the offensive zone. That's what makes him so good. You don't trade a 2nd round pick for an old veteran who will never play anything more than bottom 6. That's terrible asset management
8 déc 2019 à 22 h 57
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Quoting: HabsForEver
Wait are you serious?

KK doesn't have to put up points. He started out the season poorly. but right before his injury, his offense was starting to come again.

Suzuki is more dependable in his own zone than he is in the offensive zone. That's what makes him so good. You don't trade a 2nd round pick for an old veteran who will never play anything more than bottom 6. That's terrible asset management


You also dont win without those veteran guys (and sutter is only 30, not like has a fossil) who play in the defensive zone. It really comes down to if you honestly believe the canadians can and should try and make the playoffs. If its no, then you wouldnt trade that 2nd for like Taylor Hall if he isnt gonna re-sign, but why wouldnt you try and make your team better today, for the price of a 2nd round pick, when you already have 12 picks in this years draft?
Just curious would you trade a 3rd or a 4th? a 7th? what would be reasonable to you.
9 déc 2019 à 11 h 17
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Quoting: Frog_guy
You also dont win without those veteran guys (and sutter is only 30, not like has a fossil) who play in the defensive zone. It really comes down to if you honestly believe the canadians can and should try and make the playoffs. If its no, then you wouldnt trade that 2nd for like Taylor Hall if he isnt gonna re-sign, but why wouldnt you try and make your team better today, for the price of a 2nd round pick, when you already have 12 picks in this years draft?
Just curious would you trade a 3rd or a 4th? a 7th? what would be reasonable to you.


We already have the guys who play in the defensive end.

Both Thompson and Danault are defense first centers. I don't see a purpose in acquiring Sutter. I think we should keep the team the same and let it develop within. I don't see this year as a make or break the playoffs for the Canadiens.
9 déc 2019 à 14 h 10
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Quoting: HabsForEver
We already have the guys who play in the defensive end.

Both Thompson and Danault are defense first centers. I don't see a purpose in acquiring Sutter. I think we should keep the team the same and let it develop within. I don't see this year as a make or break the playoffs for the Canadiens.


There are no make or break years, all I am saying is trying to make the playoffs should be the goal. You got a good team, with a HOF goalie and D-man who are getting older, and a surprisingly winnable division (well not win, but 2nd or 3rd certainly attainable). Strike while the iron's hot and all that
9 déc 2019 à 14 h 35
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Quoting: Frog_guy
There are no make or break years, all I am saying is trying to make the playoffs should be the goal. You got a good team, with a HOF goalie and D-man who are getting older, and a surprisingly winnable division (well not win, but 2nd or 3rd certainly attainable). Strike while the iron's hot and all that


Why trade futures just to squeak into a playoff spot while the other teams get better and better. In order to win in this division, Asset management has to be the key. Let the other teams trade top picks for futures while we continue to grow.
 
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