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Does this get Mantha

Créé par: ithinkimrational
Date de création initiale: déc 7, 2019
Publié: Dec 7, 2019 at 10:37 pm
Équipe: 2019-20 Canadiens de Montréal
Transactions
MTL
  1. Mantha, Anthony
DET
  1. Lehkonen, Artturi
  2. Poehling, Ryan
  3. 2020 2e round pick (CHI)
Rachats de contrats
  • Steve Mason: 1 366 667 $
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Marco Scandella: 2 000 000 $ (50%)
  • Ilya Kovalchuk: 350 000 $ (50%)
Enfoui
  • Karl Alzner: 3 550 000 $ (4 625 000 $)
  • Dale Weise: 1 275 000 $ (2 350 000 $)
  • Keith Kinkaid: 675 000 $ (1 750 000 $)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2020
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
ANA
SJS
WPG
MTL
FLA
MTL
CHI
2021
MTL
MTL
MTL
CHI
MTL
MTL
MTL
2022
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2781 500 000 $81 747 974 $0 $3 560 000 $-247 974 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
MTL
Drouin, Jonathan
5 500 000 $
AG
UFA - 4
MTL
Domi, Max
3 150 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
MTL
Gallagher, Brendan
3 750 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
MTL
Tatar, Tomas
4 800 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
MTL
Danault, Phillip
3 083 333 $
C
UFA - 2
MTL
Armia, Joel
2 600 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
MTL
Byron, Paul
3 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
MTL
Weal, Jordan
1 400 000 $
C, AD, AG
UFA - 2
DET
Mantha, Anthony
3 300 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 1
MTL
Peca, Matthew
1 300 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
MTL
Thompson, Nate
1 000 000 $
C
UFA - 1
MTL
Juulsen, Noah
863 333 $
DD
RFA - 1
MTL
Cousins, Nick
1 000 000 $
C, AG, AD
RFA - 1
MTL
Kotkaniemi, Jesperi
925 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
MTL
Suzuki, Nick
863 333 $
C, AD
RFA - 3
MTL
Teasdale, Joël
763 333 $
C
RFA - 3
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
MTL
Chiarot, Ben
3 500 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 3
MTL
Weber, Shea
7 857 143 $
DD
UFA - 7
MTL
Price, Carey
10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 7
MTL
Kulak, Brett
1 850 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
MTL
Petry, Jeff
5 500 000 $
DD
NMC NTC
UFA - 2
MTL
Primeau, Cayden
880 833 $
G
RFA - 3
MTL
Reilly, Mike
1 500 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
MTL
Folin, Christian
800 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
MTL
Leskinen, Otto
925 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
MTL
Fleury, Cale
771 666 $
DD
RFA - 2
MTL
Mete, Victor
748 333 $
DG
RFA - 1

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7 déc 2019 à 22 h 39
#1
MisstheWhalers
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Very much doubt it.
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7 déc 2019 à 22 h 43
#2
arky
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Probably not. He is one of the core players for the rebuild.
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7 déc 2019 à 22 h 45
#3
Démarrer sujet
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but he's 25 already! Poehling is much younger, less offensive upside for sure. But he can be a 2way Center. Plus a 2nd round in a deep draft.
7 déc 2019 à 22 h 47
#4
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Easy no.
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7 déc 2019 à 22 h 48
#5
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That for sure doesn’t. Don’t think DET is moving Mantha anyway. Athanasiou on the other hand most likely will be available.
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7 déc 2019 à 23 h 03
#6
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Quoting: Jaycee
That for sure doesn’t. Don’t think DET is moving Mantha anyway. Athanasiou on the other hand most likely will be available.


Athanasiou is same age as Mantha. Det won't even make the playoffs for another 2 years.
Plus Mantha is up for RFA this year and that won't be easy considering Mantha has played a total of ZERO playoff games.
You guys are all out to lunch
7 déc 2019 à 23 h 09
#7
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Quoting: ithinkimrational
but he's 25 already! Poehling is much younger, less offensive upside for sure. But he can be a 2way Center. Plus a 2nd round in a deep draft.


Mantha (.92) has the same amount of points as Danault (.77) and Gallagher (.77) and he has been on IR for a week. (ppg)
7 déc 2019 à 23 h 19
#8
#DisruptTheNight
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lol what the **** is this
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8 déc 2019 à 20 h 16
#9
arky
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Quoting: ithinkimrational
Athanasiou is same age as Mantha. Det won't even make the playoffs for another 2 years.
Plus Mantha is up for RFA this year and that won't be easy considering Mantha has played a total of ZERO playoff games.
You guys are all out to lunch


Out to lunch? Why because you want Mantha and can not see that Wings fans and others did not think this is not a good trade.

You are right, Mantha is a a RFA, meaning Wings hold all the cards, yes he can go to arbitration, but I doubt Yzerman allows that to happen. Wings have no cap issues and can pay big money if that is what Mantha asks for. Lastly tell me why Mantha would want to goto Montreal? They are in better shape player wise than Detroit, but MB has not proved he can build a winner, where as Yzerman has proved he can in Tampa Bay. You make it sound like you are doing us a favor by taking him off our hands.

Lastly you say we are getting a 2nd in a draft, yes but if we are going to rebuild you can not keep trading building blocks for picks. You have to draw a line in the sand, pick the guys you are going to build around and start the rebuild. Mantha, Larkinn Bertuzzi, Hronek and maybe Cholowski are those blocks. If you trade on or any of them you keep the rebuild stagnant and you will be in a loop of rebuilding for years.

Could Mantha leave but I have heard nothing that he wants to leave or that he does not want to play hear so 'Out to lunch' No more like you are out to lunch.
8 déc 2019 à 20 h 57
#10
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I don't think the value is there, but Montreal has no interest in doing a trade like this anyways
8 déc 2019 à 21 h 25
#11
Go Wings Go
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Hell No? Mantha isn't available and those pieces don't get him. MB wouldn't surrender the pieces that Yzerman would want for Mantha.
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8 déc 2019 à 21 h 32
#12
a11111
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
Hell No? Mantha isn't available and those pieces don't get him. MB wouldn't surrender the pieces that Yzerman would want for Mantha.


I've try way more didn't work . Maybe something around Mantha vs Domi ++ ,
8 déc 2019 à 21 h 39
#13
MisstheWhalers
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Quoting: mikearky
Out to lunch? Why because you want Mantha and can not see that Wings fans and others did not think this is not a good trade.

You are right, Mantha is a a RFA, meaning Wings hold all the cards, yes he can go to arbitration, but I doubt Yzerman allows that to happen. Wings have no cap issues and can pay big money if that is what Mantha asks for. Lastly tell me why Mantha would want to goto Montreal? They are in better shape player wise than Detroit, but MB has not proved he can build a winner, where as Yzerman has proved he can in Tampa Bay. You make it sound like you are doing us a favor by taking him off our hands.

Lastly you say we are getting a 2nd in a draft, yes but if we are going to rebuild you can not keep trading building blocks for picks. You have to draw a line in the sand, pick the guys you are going to build around and start the rebuild. Mantha, Larkinn Bertuzzi, Hronek and maybe Cholowski are those blocks. If you trade on or any of them you keep the rebuild stagnant and you will be in a loop of rebuilding for years.

Could Mantha leave but I have heard nothing that he wants to leave or that he does not want to play hear so 'Out to lunch' No more like you are out to lunch.


Your comment about trading building blocks for picks is so very true, this idea of a never ending rebuild or not making a move cause a team is in a rebuild makes no sense to me. At some point a team has to build around a core and begin to exit a rebuild otherwise they'll end up being stagnated in mediocrity forever.

Imo Yzerman needs to try and improve the Wings a fair bit over the summer and there needs to be a step towards a marked improvement next season. Would be nice if the Wings could snag the 1st overall pick this summer.
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