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Créé par: Price_is_the_goat
Date de création initiale: déc 4, 2019
Publié: Dec 4, 2019 at 8:58 pm
Équipe: 2019-20 Canadiens de Montréal
Explications
What should I add or subtract? I know trading for him would be a tough task, as he is one of the most underrated defensemen in the league
Transactions
MTL
  1. Lindholm, Hampus
ANA
  1. Lehkonen, Artturi
  2. Kulak, Brett
  3. 2020 1e round pick (MTL)
  4. 2021 3e round pick (CHI)
Détails additionnels:
Jesse Ylonen - B level prospect
Rachats de contrats
  • Steve Mason: 1 366 667 $
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Marco Scandella: 2 000 000 $ (50%)
  • Ilya Kovalchuk: 350 000 $ (50%)
Enfoui
  • Karl Alzner: 3 550 000 $ (4 625 000 $)
  • Dale Weise: 1 275 000 $ (2 350 000 $)
  • Keith Kinkaid: 675 000 $ (1 750 000 $)
  • Matthew Peca: 225 000 $ (1 300 000 $)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2020
MTL
CHI
MTL
MTL
ANA
SJS
WPG
MTL
FLA
MTL
CHI
2021
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
2022
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2281 500 000 $78 176 864 $0 $3 315 000 $3 323 136 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
MTL
Drouin, Jonathan
5 500 000 $
AG
UFA - 4
MTL
Domi, Max
3 150 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
MTL
Suzuki, Nick
863 333 $
C, AD
RFA - 3
MTL
Tatar, Tomas
4 800 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
MTL
Danault, Phillip
3 083 333 $
C
UFA - 2
MTL
Gallagher, Brendan
3 750 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
MTL
Weal, Jordan
1 400 000 $
C, AD, AG
UFA - 2
MTL
Kotkaniemi, Jesperi
925 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
MTL
Armia, Joel
2 600 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
MTL
Cousins, Nick
1 000 000 $
C, AG, AD
RFA - 1
MTL
Thompson, Nate
1 000 000 $
C
UFA - 1
MTL
Byron, Paul
3 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
ANA
Lindholm, Hampus
5 205 556 $
DG
UFA - 3
MTL
Weber, Shea
7 857 143 $
DD
UFA - 7
MTL
Price, Carey
10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 7
MTL
Chiarot, Ben
3 500 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 3
MTL
Petry, Jeff
5 500 000 $
DD
NMC NTC
UFA - 2
MTL
Primeau, Cayden
880 833 $
G
RFA - 3
MTL
Mete, Victor
748 333 $
DG
RFA - 1
MTL
Fleury, Cale
771 666 $
DD
RFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
MTL
Reilly, Mike
1 500 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
MTL
Folin, Christian
800 000 $
DD
UFA - 1

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4 déc 2019 à 21 h 05
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Lindholm isn't available.
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4 déc 2019 à 21 h 08
#2
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Ylonen is a B+ prospect
4 déc 2019 à 21 h 08
#3
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I like Lekhonen and Kulak, but they aren't close to Lindholm, two middle 6 F's (that ANA doesn't need) for a #1 d man that ANA desperately needs, plus ANA is already lacking in star power, if they trade away a Kase or Rakell or Manson/Lindholm it's going to seriously hurt them, unless they get an = or better player back
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4 déc 2019 à 21 h 16
#4
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Quoting: AFOX10900
I like Lekhonen and Kulak, but they aren't close to Lindholm, two middle 6 F's (that ANA doesn't need) for a #1 d man that ANA desperately needs, plus ANA is already lacking in star power, if they trade away a Kase or Rakell or Manson/Lindholm it's going to seriously hurt them, unless they get an = or better player back


so who would u want back from mtl? primeau suzuki KK romanov caufield are obv off the list. poehling maybe? brook?
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4 déc 2019 à 21 h 22
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Quoting: Price_is_the_goat
so who would u want back from mtl? primeau suzuki KK romanov caufield are obv off the list. poehling maybe? brook?


Romanov+... I totally get why you don't want to trade him, the kid is a monster, but cost controlled relatively young #1 d men don't come cheap
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4 déc 2019 à 21 h 23
#6
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Nope
4 déc 2019 à 21 h 28
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Quoting: AFOX10900
Romanov+... I totally get why you don't want to trade him, the kid is a monster, but cost controlled relatively young #1 d men don't come cheap


yeah fair point. thanks for the feedback
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4 déc 2019 à 23 h 22
#8
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Petry and Brook or Romanov. Second choice: this year's first (which you're not trading), Brook AND Romanov.
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4 déc 2019 à 23 h 40
#9
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Montreal aint trading this year’s first
5 déc 2019 à 10 h 50
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
Petry and Brook or Romanov. Second choice: this year's first (which you're not trading), Brook AND Romanov.


nah thats way too much lol
5 déc 2019 à 10 h 51
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Quoting: FiveForFighting
Montreal aint trading this year’s first


why wouldn't you wtf? imagine ur getting a top pairing 24 year old dman. of course you trade a first for him. mtl's problem isn't offense, its defense. they're top 10 in scoring, and the pp, without drouin is still 16th in the league.
5 déc 2019 à 12 h 31
#12
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Quoting: Price_is_the_goat
why wouldn't you wtf? imagine ur getting a top pairing 24 year old dman. of course you trade a first for him. mtl's problem isn't offense, its defense. they're top 10 in scoring, and the pp, without drouin is still 16th in the league.


You forget that this June, the draft is in Montreal. The Canadiens aren't depriving their fans of participation on the first day.
5 déc 2019 à 12 h 33
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
You forget that this June, the draft is in Montreal. The Canadiens aren't depriving their fans of participation on the first day.


it doesnt matter. if they go on a nice playoff run, no one would care for that 1st rd pick. weak argument
5 déc 2019 à 12 h 37
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Quoting: Price_is_the_goat
nah thats way too much lol


Lindholm > Petry, plus signed for longer at a better price (no pun intended), hence the Petry plus Brook or Romanov valuation. Lindholm is a first-class top pairing defenseman and neither Brook nor Romanov is likely to reach that stature in the next two years, hence the first plus Brook and Romanov valuation.
5 déc 2019 à 12 h 42
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Quoting: Price_is_the_goat
it doesnt matter. if they go on a nice playoff run, no one would care for that 1st rd pick. weak argument


You highly underestimate your fellow Montreal fans. Strong argument.
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5 déc 2019 à 13 h 33
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
Lindholm > Petry, plus signed for longer at a better price (no pun intended), hence the Petry plus Brook or Romanov valuation. Lindholm is a first-class top pairing defenseman and neither Brook nor Romanov is likely to reach that stature in the next two years, hence the first plus Brook and Romanov valuation.


too much from mtls prespective
7 déc 2019 à 0 h 10
#17
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Quoting: Price_is_the_goat
why wouldn't you wtf? imagine ur getting a top pairing 24 year old dman. of course you trade a first for him. mtl's problem isn't offense, its defense. they're top 10 in scoring, and the pp, without drouin is still 16th in the league.


Lindholm isn’t gonna make MTL trade their first when the draft is in MTL. Whens the last time a team traded their pick when the draft was in their city. Lindholm is a 30 pts d at best and is injury proned. Not worth the price. Not even gonna talk about the fact that you included Ylönen in there too cause thats a massive overpayment.
7 déc 2019 à 12 h 36
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Quoting: FiveForFighting
Lindholm isn’t gonna make MTL trade their first when the draft is in MTL. Whens the last time a team traded their pick when the draft was in their city. Lindholm is a 30 pts d at best and is injury proned. Not worth the price. Not even gonna talk about the fact that you included Ylönen in there too cause thats a massive overpayment.


im not speicifacally referring to lindholm, but say a guy like ghost, or klefbom or nurse is available? i woudl trade a first for klefbom without a 2nd thought
7 déc 2019 à 18 h 31
#19
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Quoting: Price_is_the_goat
im not speicifacally referring to lindholm, but say a guy like ghost, or klefbom or nurse is available? i woudl trade a first for klefbom without a 2nd thought


Do I think Klefbom or Nurse are worth a first? Yea depending on how high it is. I just dont see the Habs trading away their first unless its a game changer (like the Aho offer sheet). Maybe a 2021 first, but not this year’s. Even though a LHD would help right now, it wont make them contend this season. Theyre gonna wanna sell some tickets for the draft next summer and without a first, gonna be hard to have a full house.
7 déc 2019 à 20 h 50
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Quoting: FiveForFighting
Do I think Klefbom or Nurse are worth a first? Yea depending on how high it is. I just dont see the Habs trading away their first unless its a game changer (like the Aho offer sheet). Maybe a 2021 first, but not this year’s. Even though a LHD would help right now, it wont make them contend this season. Theyre gonna wanna sell some tickets for the draft next summer and without a first, gonna be hard to have a full house.


i doubt any gm cares if a player is avaialble and is worth 2020 1st, they'll pay that price. yeah its nice to have a 1st when you're hosting a draft, but no one would care if that first rder lands you an elite top pairing defenseman.
8 déc 2019 à 0 h 21
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Quoting: Price_is_the_goat
i doubt any gm cares if a player is avaialble and is worth 2020 1st, they'll pay that price. yeah its nice to have a 1st when you're hosting a draft, but no one would care if that first rder lands you an elite top pairing defenseman.


Klefbom is not an elite top LHD lmao hes a 30 pts dman that plays with two 100 point players including the best player in the world. Youre big time overvaluating him. Next.
8 déc 2019 à 11 h 25
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Quoting: FiveForFighting
Klefbom is not an elite top LHD lmao hes a 30 pts dman that plays with two 100 point players including the best player in the world. Youre big time overvaluating him. Next.


he's an elite dman and can put up 40 plus point seasons on a better team. him and weber would be deadly together. i'd trade a 1st for him without thinking twice. but edm would wnat more.
 
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