Is there a stat for goals per quality shot

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Créé par: BOLTLOVER1

Équipe: 2019-20 Lightning de Tampa Bay

Date de création initiale: 28 nov. 2019

Publié: 28 nov. 2019

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FIRSTLY .. Happy Thanksgiving to all.

I know there is a stat for goals per shot % (S%) .. but is there one for goals per quality/danger shots %? (QS%)

In a analyzing how bad Tyler Johnson Matthew Joseph and Yanni Gourde are for Tampa .. it occurs to me this stat would be helpful

For example .. Tyler Johnson has a S% of 9.8% which is awful .. lowest of any regular forward by far and behind 2 defensemen which is almost impossible!!!! ..but I think it worse for GS% .. and for Gourde no doubt. NOTE Stamkos S% 3rd worst on team and helps explain team WORST plus minus. ALSO Gourde S% is a ski slope .. dropped EVERY year .. 20% to 14% from first partial year to this year .. what a disaster...

With all this focus on the "modern stats" and shots .. it occurs to me classic goal scoring.. or not.. when you SHOULD SCORE .. has been lost.

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TBL

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Nice size and fit pieces for playoffs

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Trade him now before there is no more value. If he doesnt waive .. bury him and being up Volkov. Cap neutral and play a player who needs NHL time.

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TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	81 500 000 $	70 730 474 $	0 $	1 362 500 $	10 769 526 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
	Stamkos, Steven 8 500 000 $8 500 000 $ AG, C NMC UFA - 5
Killorn, Alex 4 450 000 $4 450 000 $ AD, AG NTC UFA - 4	Point, Brayden 6 750 000 $6 750 000 $ C, AD UFA - 3	Palat, Ondrej 5 300 000 $5 300 000 $ AG, AD NTC UFA - 3
Maroon, Patrick 900 000 $900 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Paquette, Cédric 1 650 000 $1 650 000 $ C, AG, AD UFA - 2	Gourde, Yanni 5 166 666 $5 166 666 $ C, AG, AD NTC UFA - 6
Joseph, Mathieu 728 333 $728 333 $ (182 500 $$182K) AG, AD UFA - 1	Cirelli, Anthony 728 333 $728 333 $ (182 500 $$182K) C, AG UFA - 1
Conacher, Cory 700 000 $700 000 $ AG UFA - 1	Verhaeghe, Carter 700 000 $700 000 $ AG UFA - 1
	Jankowski, Mark 1 675 000 $1 675 000 $ C, AG UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Hedman, Victor 7 875 000 $7 875 000 $ DG NMC UFA - 6	Shattenkirk, Kevin 1 750 000 $1 750 000 $ DD NTC UFA - 1	Vasilevskiy, Andrei 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ G UFA - 1
McDonagh, Ryan 6 750 000 $6 750 000 $ DG NTC UFA - 7	Rutta, Jan 1 300 000 $1 300 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1	McElhinney, Curtis 1 300 000 $1 300 000 $ G UFA - 2
Coburn, Braydon 1 700 000 $1 700 000 $ DG NTC UFA - 2	Schenn, Luke 700 000 $700 000 $ DD UFA - 1
Sergachev, Mikhail 894 166 $894 166 $ (850 000 $$850K) DG/DD UFA - 1	Cernak, Erik 697 500 $697 500 $ (147 500 $$148K) DD UFA - 1
Hamonic, Travis 3 857 143 $3 857 143 $ DD UFA - 1

28 nov. 2019 à 5 h 6

BOLTLOVER1

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Obviously pre coffee button mistake including Kuch in above trade .. Kuch has "woke" last few games and looks more engaged .. interesting it without Stamkos in lineup as friction between those 2 exists

28 nov. 2019 à 5 h 30

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I'm tired of Joseph tbh. I don't understand why he is still in the lineup.

Johnson has been so off lately. Hopefully he gets his sh1t together soon.

28 nov. 2019 à 9 h 45

ForsbergForVezina

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chartinghockey.ca might have something like that but you might have to connect some dots. I know they have one chart that looks at shot quality, so maybe you can compare that to xGF or something

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28 nov. 2019 à 9 h 47

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Ik there's hdSV% on a bunch of sites, idk about hsS%

28 nov. 2019 à 9 h 47

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lol

28 nov. 2019 à 10 h 3

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"but is there one for goals per quality/danger shots %?"

I may be mis-understanding you here but it seems like you want xGF (expected goals for).
If you go here one of the charts might have what you are looking for (just filter to TB only so that it isn't a cluttered mess).

If you are looking for a raw shooting %, I think you are looking in the wrong place. s% can vary wildly day-to-day, week-to-week, and season-to-season, so the best measure of his play would be in his chances rather than his completion in that specific area. I'm not even sure a % for high danger chances are kept due to % variability and how little it means play wise.

28 nov. 2019 à 10 h 58

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Thanks for above but I just question the whole premise of only looking at shots and expected crap .. by doing this you are assuming every player will have the same success rate from a shot 15 foot in the slot (using this as example of danger shot) .. u are turning the goal scorer into a commodity which is wrong.. way wrong.. there is a WIDE difference between Ovechkin and Paneran with Yanni Gourde and Tyler Johson on ACTUALLY converting the 15 foot slot shot ..

28 nov. 2019 à 12 h 23

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I find it kind of unreasonable to complain about Gourde when he’s been a point per game since being paired with Maroon and Paquette. That line is giving everything anyone could want, even if you consider Gourde’s salary. Johnson on the other hand needs to get things together really quickly.

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28 nov. 2019 à 13 h 5

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Quoting: I_Know_Nothing_About_Hockey_Or_Any_Sport2

Gourde perfect 4th liner .. said that all along .. only 32M LT NTC in history of league for a 4th liner in FIRST year of 6 year 5.1M AAV contract for a 27 year old rookie ...

28 nov. 2019 à 16 h 7

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Quoting: BOLTLOVER1

Gourde perfect 4th liner .. said that all along .. only 32M LT NTC in history of league for a 4th liner in FIRST year of 6 year 5.1M AAV contract for a 27 year old rookie ...

If Gourde keeps things up and proves that this wasn’t just a lucky streak, he’s well worth the money regardless of what line he’s on. Johnson on the other hand has one point this month with elite linemates and makes almost the same salary.

28 nov. 2019 à 17 h 3

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Modifié 28 nov. 2019 à 17 h 25

Agree Tyler Johnson.. and Joseph .. are anchors on this team .. for Gourde name another teams 4th liner making 30M and over 5M AAV .. with 5 years left on contract .. Neal and Lucic contracts not that bad .. Gourde is one of worst contracts in NHL .. Wagner from Bruins just resigned for 1.5 M AAV and poor Paquette .. a MUCH more valuable player for Tampa gets around 1.5M .. Gourde is JBB mistake that is indisputable and cost us JT Miller who has DOUBLE points of Gourde and would be Tampa's leading scorer!!!! .. we will have to sacrafice Killorn next for Gourde contract? ..

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