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Boston Bruins signed Charlie Coyle (6 Years / $5,250,000 AAV)

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27 nov 2019 à 16 h 48
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Charlie Coyle has signed a new contract with the Boston Bruins.
CONTRAT STANDARD (PROLONGATION)
COMPARER CE CONTRAT
DURÉE: 6 ANS
STATUT À L’ÉCHÉANCE DU CONTRAT: UFA
CONTRAT SIGNÉ AVEC: Bruins de BostonBruins de Boston
VALEUR: 31 500 000 $
% DU C.H. : 6,44
DATE DE SIGNATURE: 27 novembre 2019
SOURCE: CapFriendly
SAISONCLAUSECAP HIT AAV BONIS DE PERF. BONIS DE SIGN. SALAIRE DE BASE SALAIRE TOTAL SALAIRE DES LIGUES MINEURES
2020-21M-NTC, NMC5 250 000 $5 250 000 $0 $0 $8 000 000 $8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
2021-22M-NTC, NMC5 250 000 $5 250 000 $0 $0 $6 000 000 $6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
2022-23M-NTC, NMC5 250 000 $5 250 000 $0 $1 000 000 $3 000 000 $4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
2023-24M-NTC, NMC5 250 000 $5 250 000 $0 $0 $4 500 000 $4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
2024-25M-NTC, NMC5 250 000 $5 250 000 $0 $0 $4 500 000 $4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
2025-26M-NTC, NMC5 250 000 $5 250 000 $0 $0 $4 500 000 $4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
TOTAL31 500 000 $31 500 000 $0 $1 000 000 $30 500 000 $31 500 000 $31 500 000 $
DÉTAILS DE LA CLAUSE: 2020-22: Le joueur soumet une liste de 10 équipes où il refuse d'être échangé; 2022-25: Le joueur soumet une liste de 8 équipes où il refuse d'être échangé; 2025-26: Le joueur soumet une liste de 3 équipes où il refuse d'être échangé
27 nov 2019 à 16 h 50
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bhavikp27
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Great deal. Coyle has been the perfect fit for the Bruins, last playoffs and now. And he's only 27 so maybe his contract will end just in time if he starts regressing
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27 nov 2019 à 16 h 51
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Marner Kermit Fetish
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big oof for the bruins. 6 years of that is atrocious
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27 nov 2019 à 16 h 53
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Great contract for the Bruins. He’s very versatile and brings a lot to the team. Maybe a year or two too long, but the cap hit certainly makes up for it.
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27 nov 2019 à 16 h 54
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He's playing good now but paying Coyle 5.25 until he's 34 is rough.
27 nov 2019 à 16 h 57
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David Clarkson money
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27 nov 2019 à 17 h 07
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Modifié 27 nov 2019 à 17 h 13
My initial reaction was that this was too much money for a 3C, but honestly this is the going rate these days (albeit the top end of that rate). Maybe a little high for him but not by much (750k overpay /year at the absolute most). My only issue with the deal is the term. If you are going to pay a 3C that kind of money at his age, lower the term. 4 years would have been much better (Think something similar to the Bozak deal for STL).

I think I am going to say no to this mostly because of those two extra years, but other than that it isn't a crazy deal.
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27 nov 2019 à 17 h 19
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Is his production as of late even worth $5.25M AAV?
27 nov 2019 à 17 h 19
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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
Great contract for the Bruins. He’s very versatile and brings a lot to the team. Maybe a year or two too long, but the cap hit certainly makes up for it.


There is no way this a great contract...

There is a chance that this contract could be ok, but it won't ever be a steal.

High risk, medium reward is what I see here
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27 nov 2019 à 17 h 23
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Modifié 27 nov 2019 à 17 h 45
Good moves by Sweeney for CC (& Wagner). It's called getting in front of the parade and leading the pack instead of being a dumb clown on the float in the middle or end of the pack.

Coyle has begun to fit in nicely as he gets more games in the B's system (think "Mr. Versatile"). On pace for 45 points this year, played the point on the PP last night and can move into "1stC or 2ndC hole" and be effective (eg: Bergy goes down and he's next man up). In two years, Krejci is unlikely too be re-signed (at least at >US$7M, just my opinion, I like DK, maybe he takes a hometown discount?). That said, Coyle would then be positioned as #2C regular maybe and he'll be 3.5 years a Bruin by then...
Bruins now have 15 guys signed for next year too. Key signings left = UFA Krug, RFA Debrusk, RFA Grizz, UFA Halak...(Chara?)
Sweeney's favourite song = "The Beat Goes On Baby...."
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27 nov 2019 à 17 h 36
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Eeeks in a few years from now
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27 nov 2019 à 17 h 59
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Let's not forget to credit Ryan "Ray" Whitney for breaking this and the Wagner signing.
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27 nov 2019 à 18 h 17
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To much money
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27 nov 2019 à 18 h 48
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So Mikael Granlund is getting 8 mil for 7 years then???
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27 nov 2019 à 19 h 04
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I hope they enjoy another Backes contract in 3-4 years.
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27 nov 2019 à 19 h 08
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Great contract for someone who will be the B's next 2C when krech gets traded/let go, and will see an increase in point production with the promotion. Very versatile, can play up and down the lineup. Sweeney proving why he's GM of the year. At least now the B's have some stability down the middle after the bergy/krech era.
27 nov 2019 à 19 h 19
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Quoting: Random2152
My initial reaction was that this was too much money for a 3C, but honestly this is the going rate these days (albeit the top end of that rate). Maybe a little high for him but not by much (750k overpay /year at the absolute most). My only issue with the deal is the term. If you are going to pay a 3C that kind of money at his age, lower the term. 4 years would have been much better (Think something similar to the Bozak deal for STL).

I think I am going to say no to this mostly because of those two extra years, but other than that it isn't a crazy deal.


I think Coyle in many ways is comparable to Konecny on PHI, who also got a similar contract. Konecny was boosted by top 6 minutes to get higher production, and Coyle has been restricted to the middle six, thus the comparable if given identical minutes and usage is alright. Konecny though took his contract and expanded on it because he is still young - I can't see Coyle doing the same.

Thus I am agreement that this should have more mirrored the Bozak deal, and does not look good at this term.
Still, it's probably better than going at the minimum availability centers and RW in free agency and probably will be looked at on as a "win"
27 nov 2019 à 19 h 19
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Quoting: HabsForEver
I hope they enjoy another Backes contract in 3-4 years.


well the difference here is that backes was signed when he was 31. Coyle is only 27 (will be 28 when contract starts) so the production technically shouldn't fall off as early as it did in backes' case (when he became 33). Let's say Coyle is on the same trajectory to fall off, so that's 5yrs of good production and only 1 yr of dead money, as opposed to 3 yrs of dead money in backes' case.
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27 nov 2019 à 19 h 23
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Quoting: KennyBoi
well the difference here is that backes was signed when he was 31. Coyle is only 27 (will be 28 when contract starts) so the production technically shouldn't fall off as early as it did in backes' case (when he became 33). Let's say Coyle is on the same trajectory to fall off, so that's 5yrs of good production and only 1 yr of dead money, as opposed to 3 yrs of dead money in backes' case.


I guess that's a good, but I don't think Coyle deserves that money in the first place. It's already 500,000-1,000,000 overpaid before you even factor in regression
27 nov 2019 à 20 h 46
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Slightly high on money and way too much term IMO.
So Krug is gone right?
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27 nov 2019 à 21 h 52
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Quoting: HabsForEver
I hope they enjoy another Backes contract in 3-4 years.


Exactly what I was thinking. I think BOS will be very fortunate if Coyle plays at his current level for 4 years.
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27 nov 2019 à 21 h 54
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Quoting: Trickster
Slightly high on money and way too much term IMO.
So Krug is gone right?


If Krug is gone they'll need to replace him with either a trade or another UFA Defenseman. Nobody in house is capable of running the PP like Krug, or even close to Krug.
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27 nov 2019 à 22 h 01
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Quoting: Brian2016
If Krug is gone they'll need to replace him with either a trade or another UFA Defenseman. Nobody in house is capable of running the PP like Krug, or even close to Krug.


Agreed, maybe give assets and move Backes to resign Krug?
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27 nov 2019 à 22 h 07
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Quoting: Trickster
Agreed, maybe give assets and move Backes to resign Krug?


I know they'd absolutely hate to pay big just to save cap space, but it'll be worth it to keep the Cup window wide open.
27 nov 2019 à 22 h 55
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They’re definitely lucky to have him going forward, Coyle is an excellent player. Will he be excellent for another 6 years? I’m not so sure
 
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