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Dynasty Commences

Créé par: AlphaHockey65
Équipe: 2019-20 Bruins de Boston
Date de création initiale: 5 nov. 2019
Publié: 5 nov. 2019
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
NJD
  1. Backes, David
  2. Zboril, Jakub
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (BOS)
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (BOS)
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (BOS)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2020
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2021
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2022
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $77 446 667 $0 $2 412 500 $4 053 333 $

Formation

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6 125 000 $6 125 000 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Bruins de Boston
6 875 000 $6 875 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Bruins de Boston
6 666 667 $6 666 667 $
AD
UFA - 4
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Bruins de Boston
7 250 000 $7 250 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Bruins de Boston
2 800 000 $2 800 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Bruins de Boston
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance450 000 $$450K)
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Bruins de Boston
3 200 000 $3 200 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Bruins de Boston
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Bruins de Boston
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Bruins de Boston
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Bruins de Boston
1 275 000 $1 275 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Bruins de Boston
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Bruins de Boston
4 900 000 $4 900 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Bruins de Boston
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Bruins de Boston
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
DG
UFA - 4
Logo de Bruins de Boston
2 850 000 $2 850 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Bruins de Boston
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Bruins de Boston
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ (Bonis de performance1 750 000 $$2M)
DG
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Bruins de Boston
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Bruins de Boston
1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Bruins de Boston
750 000 $750 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Bruins de Boston
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 1

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5 nov. 2019 à 13 h 9
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Not unless he accepts an extension under 6.66m, and that's not happening.

There are about 10 guys in the league I would be willing to part with for the next two 1st rd picks & Hall is not one of them. I am not sure why people act like he is Elite. He has one 30 goal season in 10 years.

One.
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5 nov. 2019 à 13 h 11
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Not unless he accepts an extension under 6.66m, and that's not happening.

There are about 10 guys in the league I would be willing to part with for the next two 1st rd picks & Hall is not one of them.


Youre also dumping the backes contract in this scenario and Zboril isnt really worth anything, just a lottery ticket for them at this point. So the first and second with Zboril is for Hall and the other 1st is for dumping backes. Not that outlandish to me
5 nov. 2019 à 13 h 14
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Quoting: Propeller09
Not unless he accepts an extension under 6.66m, and that's not happening.

There are about 10 guys in the league I would be willing to part with for the next two 1st rd picks & Hall is not one of them. I am not sure why people act like he is Elite. He has one 30 goal season in 10 years.

One.


he's a point per game player on a bad/average devils team. Adding him to a stacked Bruins team makes them even more unreal.
5 nov. 2019 à 13 h 17
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Youre also dumping the backes contract in this scenario and Zboril isnt really worth anything, just a lottery ticket for them at this point. So the first and second with Zboril is for Hall and the other 1st is for dumping backes. Not that outlandish to me


See, I think you are wrong there. Zboril isn't nothing. He is NHL ready, there just isn't a spot for him right now. I do not want to give up anything of value to dump Backes' contract. It isn't worth it. Bury him and buy out next offseason.

They can get assets back rather than losing them if they deal other players to clear up space if they decide to go that route. Moore and Miller would both return 3rd picks, maybe 4th.

It cost them 4m cap next year and 1m the following year to buyout Backes. That is not worth anything more than a 3rd pick... His actually money is next to nothing, so there will probably be a team that needs to get to the cap floor, but doesn't want to actually spend money (I'm looking at you Ottawa).
5 nov. 2019 à 13 h 18
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A LW that they don’t need and can’t re-sign while giving up 4 long term assets is not the building of a dynasty. Quite the opposite. It’s a 1 year push followed by years of filling the roster with mediocre crap.

Pass.
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5 nov. 2019 à 13 h 23
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he's a point per game player on a bad/average devils team. Adding him to a stacked Bruins team makes them even more unreal.


Not for that haul on a rental.

There are plenty of guys on bad teams who produce at a much higher level. Also his MVP season is the anomaly in his career. If you take out that one year, he is a 70.5pts per season player who has never scored 30 goals. He is 28 which means his next contract will take him to his mid 30's. Nope. Not for a guy who can't stay healthy.
5 nov. 2019 à 13 h 24
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Not unless he accepts an extension under 6.66m, and that's not happening.

There are about 10 guys in the league I would be willing to part with for the next two 1st rd picks & Hall is not one of them. I am not sure why people act like he is Elite. He has one 30 goal season in 10 years.

One.


If you don't want him, fine, but pointing out his number of 30 goal seasons is kind of moot. He's over a point per game since joining the Devils and had relatively decent stats in Edm in which without his injuries would have easily hit multiple 30+ goal seasons.....

He's elite as much as the next guy. Doesn't mean you have to want him. Doesn't mean you have to say he's not elite either.
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5 nov. 2019 à 13 h 34
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If you don't want him, fine, but pointing out his number of 30 goal seasons is kind of moot. He's over a point per game since joining the Devils and had relatively decent stats in Edm in which without his injuries would have easily hit multiple 30+ goal seasons.....

He's elite as much as the next guy. Doesn't mean you have to want him. Doesn't mean you have to say he's not elite either.


I just don't think he is. He's a good player, not great. Health is a skill as well. Also, it's kind of contradictory to say you can't bring up him lack of 30 goal seasons and then say he is a PPG player.
Just looking at LW (in no particular order) : Marchand, Ovechkin, Panarin, Connor, Lee, Giroux, Forsberg, Landeskog, Huberdeau, Gaudreau, Tkachuk, and Maybe Laine & Pacioretty I would rather have.

That's 11 guys ahead of him on LW. There is also Guentzal, Benn, Zucker, Skinner that would all be in the conversation as well.
5 nov. 2019 à 13 h 49
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First off, dynasty? I’ll be thrilled if Bergeron has this season, and next season left in him as a legit number one center. The bruins have this year and next year with their current core. Dynasty might be a bit much.

Then let’s deal with the trade: hard pass. Taylor Hall is overrated as a long term acquisition. When he’s healthy, and at the top of this game, he’s an MVP candidate. That just doesn’t happen very often. Some team will give him 10 million, and that team will probably regret it. No interest in this as a bruins fan. It’s way too steep a price to pay.
5 nov. 2019 à 13 h 51
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I just don't think he is. He's a good player, not great. Health is a skill as well. Also, it's kind of contradictory to say you can't bring up him lack of 30 goal seasons and then say he is a PPG player.
Just looking at LW (in no particular order) : Marchand, Ovechkin, Panarin, Connor, Lee, Giroux, Forsberg, Landeskog, Huberdeau, Gaudreau, Tkachuk, and Maybe Laine & Pacioretty I would rather have.

That's 11 guys ahead of him on LW. There is also Guentzal, Benn, Zucker, Skinner that would all be in the conversation as well.


How is that contradictory? He'd have more 30 goal seasons than a bunch of those guys if it weren't for injuries. He's a 30 goal scorer as long as he stays healthy. Staying healthy is the other factor. The fact that he is consistently a PPG player shows why he is elite.

Either way, the question is not whether you'd take other players over him or not. That's your opinion. Its whether he is elite or not and his stats are among the best LW's in the game. Despite having terrible teams to play for.
5 nov. 2019 à 14 h 21
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How is that contradictory? He'd have more 30 goal seasons than a bunch of those guys if it weren't for injuries. He's a 30 goal scorer as long as he stays healthy. Staying healthy is the other factor. The fact that he is consistently a PPG player shows why he is elite.

Either way, the question is not whether you'd take other players over him or not. That's your opinion. Its whether he is elite or not and his stats are among the best LW's in the game. Despite having terrible teams to play for.


It's contradictory because you said pointing out his (ONE) 30 goal seasons is moot, then you say he would have more if he were on better teams/stayed healthy. Menh...

If you remove his one breakout season, he is a 70 pt per season guy. That's what he is. Elite players put up numbers regardless of the ineptness that surrounds them.

Just like I look at Giroux and his one season that he put up 58pts and say, that's his career anomaly. 9/10 He will put up over 60pts. Just like with Hall 9/10 times he will not score 30 goals.
5 nov. 2019 à 14 h 23
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It's contradictory because you said pointing out his (ONE) 30 goal seasons is moot, then you say he would have more if he were on better teams/stayed healthy. Menh...

If you remove his one breakout season, he is a 70 pt per season guy. That's what he is. Elite players put up numbers regardless of the ineptness that surrounds them.

Just like I look at Giroux and his one season that he put up 58pts and say, that's his career anomaly. 9/10 He will put up over 60pts. Just like with Hall 9/10 times he will not score 30 goals.
5 nov. 2019 à 15 h 3
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It's contradictory because you said pointing out his (ONE) 30 goal seasons is moot, then you say he would have more if he were on better teams/stayed healthy. Menh...

If you remove his one breakout season, he is a 70 pt per season guy. That's what he is. Elite players put up numbers regardless of the ineptness that surrounds them.

Just like I look at Giroux and his one season that he put up 58pts and say, that's his career anomaly. 9/10 He will put up over 60pts. Just like with Hall 9/10 times he will not score 30 goals.


Why is the 30 goals the only factor here for you? Giroux only had one 30 goal season but that isn't detractor for him.

Anyways dude, we're talking over semantics of the nomenclature of how to call someone without a prefix naming system. Someone could call Lucic elite and their would be technically no definition as to say otherwise.

Hall is a good player. That is all that matters.
 
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