why would his term be an issue if in the 2 years since signing the deal hes done nothing but improve his totals? what are you basing this off of? explain? year one 69 points year 2 70 points year 3 132 point pace? you need to better explain why you have issues bc based off his play nothing is showing signs of him playing worse?

You aren't seriously saying a 36 year old Carlson will be worth his entire contract are you?!?!
Are you that short sighted?!?! Good lord.

I think he's just upset you used Carlson as an example of a bad contract.

at 36 gio just won the Norris ....and his early career stats aren't better than Carlson....short sighted? no im actually smart enough to understand every player is different and that Carlson is elite.... his deal at 8 million by 2023/2024 wount be anything crazy....similar to the Matt nisk deal currently.. but hey stay negative I dont blame you being a leafs fan

That is 100% what it is. They don't want to hear anything that goes against their hopes and dreams. Father time is undefeated and some cant bring themselves to understand that their stars are no exception.
Kind of funny how easy it is to trigger Caps fans isn't it?

So yes, you think he will be worth it at 36 years old.
Good luck with that

Buddy, you could've just said "I don't agree that Carlson will be a bad contract into his 30s" instead of going on a whiny tangent.

He has to go on that tangent because everything else he could say doesn't support his beliefs.

I'm surprised that he managed to get over 9M AAV for 8 years with a full NMC. For an organization that has many competitive advantages, I thought they would be able to get a more team-friendly deal. Fully deserved, though, as he way outperformed his last contract.

he was obviously wrong and has yet to admit it but its fine..... im not mad just like to help people understand when they are wrong. they are examples of talent that ages poorly and talent that ages well its impossible to tell. but Nash is in a win now mode so they are going to sign the talent. it would be dumb to let an elite talent walk over 2 years or 1 million dollars..... lets say the win a cup in the next 5 years. totally worth it

Real question: is there a similar chart available that compares elite players? I'd guess that chart shows how they age differently than one that includes league average and below players.

I believe I did that and gave a few examples why... but thanks for your input. its seriously helpful. ha

bud you have yet to support your claim? I simply said his numbers are improving going into his 30's you keep saying do you think they'll last? I would have to assume yeah at least for the next 4-5 years? maybe a slight decrease when ovechkin retires? but to blindly suggest his numbers will drop dead at 30 is just stupid.... but again you are going to just repeat the same garbage you always do. spineless statements ha

Had the same thing typed up was gonna hit submit then I saw your post hidden this other guys spam.

Next time make your point a little more legible and a lot less mad so others take you seriously.

I'm sure there is, but generally it is not something that gets done due to sample size issues. I'm not home right now but I'll try and find something for you. If I had to guess a superstar can usually keep up their peak play until ~30 ish and stave off a drop off until 32 ish

Look at Giordano and Burns, he will be fun for a while

They are the exception, that doesn't disprove the rule.

Even then burns is not exactly the prototypical player that really helps to prove your point

For years he was underpaid and now he got the money he deserved. People who are saying this is bad contract are the same ones who think all contracts under 2million are great. Cheap ****s.

Girard is a steal so is Carlson, and Morrissey
Pretty much every player right now with contracts 10m+ is a bad co tract except for Eichels and McDavids.

The evil stat guy I think is taking a fact and making it seem like everyplayer fits into that one mold, except for one thing, it isn't age that ages a player, it's there playing style. A player like Risto will probably be out of good player status at age 32 but one like Dahlin will be closer to 40 because he doesn't play with his body as much as he does with his stick.

Do you have any evidence to back that up? You'd be a hero in the stats community.
Playing style certainly does affect it, but age is the primary factor.

who are you? is this randoms burner account? bc outside that why do you care about my conversation with him? hes also liking all your comments? next time just use one account. its embarrassing you need 2 accounts to bail yourself out of a terrible take on a player


ill make a graph for you next time. to show why hes not in decline haha

Dont get me wrong I agree with this fact but the thing is I guess it depends on playing style, look at the guys who have played till they are 38+ now, they are all smooth, silky players, with great hands, and are very smart. Ehem...Josi. Kinda like Thornton and Marleau, or Giordano.

Im not saying Josi doesn't deserve the money. He was pretty underpaid for what he brought to the game, that doesn't mean this contract isn't for FAR too long.