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3 Way WPG NJD

Créé par: Shibbal18
Équipe: 2019-20 Sabres de Buffalo
Date de création initiale: 15 oct. 2019
Publié: 15 oct. 2019
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
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BUF
  1. Blaisdell, Harrison [Liste de réserve]
  2. Copp, Andrew
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (WPG)
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NJD
  1. Copp, Andrew
  2. Scandella, Marco
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (BUF)
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Gets the lowest of the 2 firsts
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $69 546 667 $0 $4 682 500 $11 953 333 $
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767 500 $767 500 $ (Bonis de performance132 500 $$132K)
AD, AG
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10 000 000 $10 000 000 $
C
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3 650 000 $3 650 000 $
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9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 8
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
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M-NTC
UFA - 2
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
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2 275 000 $2 275 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG, C
RFA - 1
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2 325 000 $2 325 000 $
AD, AG
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UFA - 2
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1 600 000 $1 600 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
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1 550 000 $1 550 000 $
C, AG
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AD
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UFA - 4
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
DG/DD
UFA - 2
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3 875 000 $3 875 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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2 850 000 $2 850 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
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3 387 500 $3 387 500 $
DD
UFA - 1
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1 325 000 $1 325 000 $
G
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
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UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
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RFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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700 000 $700 000 $
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1 300 000 $1 300 000 $
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
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UFA - 1
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15 oct. 2019 à 12 h 17
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jets say not a chance
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15 oct. 2019 à 12 h 20
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I'm not denying that the Jets could use a minute munching RHD but I have reservations about Ristolainen. Guy is a career -143 +/-. Even this season when the team is 5-0-1 and +12 through 6 games, he is still a 0 +/-. In past seasons the excuse has always been that he is a good defender on a bad team. That can't be said anymore. Is it possible that he just isn't very good defensively?
15 oct. 2019 à 12 h 29
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Ah, yes, the classic “trade away half the value than you receive” strategy
15 oct. 2019 à 12 h 42
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Ah, yes, the classic “trade away half the value than you receive” strategy


If you mean the Sabres are then yes
15 oct. 2019 à 12 h 44
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I'm not denying that the Jets could use a minute munching RHD but I have reservations about Ristolainen. Guy is a career -143 +/-. Even this season when the team is 5-0-1 and +12 through 6 games, he is still a 0 +/-. In past seasons the excuse has always been that he is a good defender on a bad team. That can't be said anymore. Is it possible that he just isn't very good defensively?


Risto hasnt been a problem on defense this season, +/- is universally known as a garbage stat
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15 oct. 2019 à 12 h 44
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Risto hasnt been a problem on defense this season, +/- is universally known as a garbage stat


Except on the scoreboard.
15 oct. 2019 à 12 h 46
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Except on the scoreboard.


5-0-1, scoreboard seems fine. Risto is again leading the Sabres D in TOI with 25 minutes, if he was so bad Sabres would be getting shelled
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15 oct. 2019 à 13 h 16
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So a good 2C and a 1st in a stacked draft for Ristolainen?

Makes sense rolling eyes
15 oct. 2019 à 13 h 53
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So a good 2C and a 1st in a stacked draft for Ristolainen?

Makes sense rolling eyes


Copps not a 2C, hes only there because of injuries. I'd also be surprised if that pick was top 10 so youre still getting a project player. Every draft is stacked until 3 years later when 14% of the first round is a NHLer
15 oct. 2019 à 13 h 54
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Quoting: Shibbal18
5-0-1, scoreboard seems fine. Risto is again leading the Sabres D in TOI with 25 minutes, if he was so bad Sabres would be getting shelled


This right here. Everyone loves to rag on Risto (some of it very much warranted), but the facts are the Sabres are 5-0-1 and Defensively look great and Risto is STILL leading the team in TOI with roughly 25 minutes played a night.

People can't have it both ways. I think more then anything the start to this year shows just how bad of a coach Housley was. People should be focusing in on how horrible Housley was at deploying players, and consistently put them in the wrong situations. Kreuger is showing just how great Risto can be when used properly.
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15 oct. 2019 à 16 h 47
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Copps not a 2C, hes only there because of injuries. I'd also be surprised if that pick was top 10 so youre still getting a project player. Every draft is stacked until 3 years later when 14% of the first round is a NHLer


Copp is a good defensive 2C. He only normally plays on the 3rd line because Paul Maurice is an idiot and doesn't know how to optimize his lineup.
15 oct. 2019 à 17 h 0
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This right here. Everyone loves to rag on Risto (some of it very much warranted), but the facts are the Sabres are 5-0-1 and Defensively look great and Risto is STILL leading the team in TOI with roughly 25 minutes played a night.

People can't have it both ways. I think more then anything the start to this year shows just how bad of a coach Housley was. People should be focusing in on how horrible Housley was at deploying players, and consistently put them in the wrong situations. Kreuger is showing just how great Risto can be when used properly.


You do know that Ristolainen still hasn't been that great right? He's still been below average
15 oct. 2019 à 19 h 5
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Copp is a good defensive 2C. He only normally plays on the 3rd line because Paul Maurice is an idiot and doesn't know how to optimize his lineup.


Even Winnipeg fans see him as a good 3c
16 oct. 2019 à 9 h 17
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You do know that Ristolainen still hasn't been that great right? He's still been below average


I'm sorry but that's just incorrect.
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17 oct. 2019 à 1 h 6
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I'm sorry but that's just incorrect.


I mean: 47.96 CF%, -5.86 Rel CF%, 49.1 xGF%, -6.06 Rel xGF%, -12.5 Rel GF%, 3.11 xGA

So yeah, he hasn't exactly been as good as you think
17 oct. 2019 à 1 h 7
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Even Winnipeg fans see him as a good 3c


OK and? That doesn't mean anything. Just because Winnipeg fans say so, doesn't mean he is.
17 oct. 2019 à 1 h 27
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OK and? That doesn't mean anything. Just because Winnipeg fans say so, doesn't mean he is.


I feel like WPG would know their players the best (and be huge homers who over value their players)
17 oct. 2019 à 1 h 36
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I feel like WPG would know their players the best (and be huge homers who over value their players)


Yea because fan opinion is the best way to evaluate players
17 oct. 2019 à 8 h 56
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Quoting: PenGoater99
I mean: 47.96 CF%, -5.86 Rel CF%, 49.1 xGF%, -6.06 Rel xGF%, -12.5 Rel GF%, 3.11 xGA

So yeah, he hasn't exactly been as good as you think


I never said he's been great or even good. I'm not a Risto fan boy or anything; in fact I'm fairly quick to criticize him. I did infer he's play has been much better and that point still stands. If you want to reference the analytics that point still stands. He's been better. Hopefully it continues.
17 oct. 2019 à 12 h 8
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I never said he's been great or even good. I'm not a Risto fan boy or anything; in fact I'm fairly quick to criticize him. I did infer he's play has been much better and that point still stands. If you want to reference the analytics that point still stands. He's been better. Hopefully it continues.


I said that he hasn't been that good, you said that was wrong, you were indirectly saying he's been somewhat good. The stats show he hasn't.
17 oct. 2019 à 14 h 5
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I said that he hasn't been that good, you said that was wrong, you were indirectly saying he's been somewhat good. The stats show he hasn't.


His TOI has remained the same and his advanced stats have improved. He hasn't been the anchor he's been in the past. If you watch the game you can also blatantly see he's playing better*. That's all I really care about. He's definitely not as good as some care to think but he's not as bad as people seem to think either.

*he did play horribly last night against the ducks
17 oct. 2019 à 14 h 9
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I said that he hasn't been that good, you said that was wrong, you were indirectly saying he's been somewhat good. The stats show he hasn't.


Whats stats? His +/-? rofl
 
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