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Random trade with Dallas

Créé par: Rideordie
Date de création initiale: sep 24, 2019
Publié: 24 sep 2019 à 21 h 09
Équipe: 2019-20 Canadiens de Montréal
Explications
So I have no idea if dallas would be willing to trade Hintz also but with a older team and win now mentality its an upgrade for them. Would mtl need to add a draft pick?

Would have put Juulsen if he was healthy
Transactions
MTL
  1. Hintz, Roope
  2. Honka, Julius [Droits de RFA]
DAL
  1. Drouin, Jonathan
  2. Folin, Christian
Rachats de contrats
  • Steve Mason: 1 366 667 $
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Marco Scandella: 2 000 000 $ (50%)
  • Ilya Kovalchuk: 350 000 $ (50%)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2020
MTL
MTL
CHI
MTL
MTL
ANA
SJS
WPG
MTL
FLA
MTL
CHI
2021
MTL
MTL
MTL
CHI
MTL
MTL
MTL
2022
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2481 500 000 $74 317 143 $0 $2 500 000 $7 182 857 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
MTL
Tatar, Tomas
4 800 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
MTL
Domi, Max
3 150 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
MTL
Gallagher, Brendan
3 750 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
MTL
Byron, Paul
3 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
MTL
Danault, Phillip
3 083 333 $
C
UFA - 2
MTL
Armia, Joel
2 600 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
MTL
Lehkonen, Artturi
2 400 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
MTL
Weal, Jordan
1 400 000 $
C, AD, AG
UFA - 2
MTL
Weise, Dale
2 350 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
MTL
Peca, Matthew
1 300 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
MTL
Thompson, Nate
1 000 000 $
C
UFA - 1
MTL
Hudon, Charles
800 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
MTL
Cousins, Nick
1 000 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
MTL
Kotkaniemi, Jesperi
925 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
DAL
Hintz, Roope
811 667 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
MTL
Alzner, Karl
4 625 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 3
MTL
Weber, Shea
7 857 143 $
DD
UFA - 7
MTL
Price, Carey
10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 7
MTL
Chiarot, Ben
3 500 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 3
MTL
Petry, Jeff
5 500 000 $
DD
NMC NTC
UFA - 2
MTL
Kinkaid, Keith
1 750 000 $
G
UFA - 1
MTL
Kulak, Brett
1 850 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
MTL
Reilly, Mike
1 500 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
MTL
Mete, Victor
748 333 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1

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24 sep 2019 à 21 h 12
#1
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Still waiting for the trade to show..
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24 sep 2019 à 21 h 13
#2
Jah1722
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Modifié 24 sep 2019 à 21 h 30
Great trade. Both teams accept.

Edit: he forgot the trade in the initial post. Don’t kill me.
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24 sep 2019 à 21 h 14
#3
Daily NHL Follower
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Hintz probably is unmovable for Dallas. He played on the 2nd line in the playoffs for them as a 22 year old. He will probably be the 2C with Pavelski, who is one of the better mentors in the league, on his wing. I doubt he moves and if he does, it's a high price
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24 sep 2019 à 21 h 16
#4
McFaksaGOAT
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Don’t even need to see the trade. Only way Dallas moves Hintz is with a severe overpay from an opposing team. He was a rock in the late half of the season and was a huge reason dallas went somewhere in the playoffs
24 sep 2019 à 21 h 17
#5
Sam Pollock
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This is a real tough one to grade
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24 sep 2019 à 21 h 23
#6
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My fail sorry guys ahah
24 sep 2019 à 21 h 24
#7
Aviation go brrrrrrr
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Folin is useless for Dallas, they just added Sekera who is better than Folin
24 sep 2019 à 21 h 27
#8
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Quoting: Max27
Folin is useless for Dallas, they just added Sekera who is better than Folin


Yeah folin is not the point of this trade. I just bessicaly gave a RD back for Honka.
24 sep 2019 à 21 h 27
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I think the only trade for Drouin this year that makes sense would be for a LHD. Everything else either doesn't work for either team or is low/too high in valuation.
24 sep 2019 à 21 h 29
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Quoting: Rideordie
Yeah folin is not the point of this trade. I just bessicaly gave a RD back for Honka.


Quoting: Rideordie
Yeah folin is not the point of this trade. I just bessicaly gave a RD back for Honka.


I see.

I'd replace Folin with like a 5th or something.
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24 sep 2019 à 21 h 33
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Quoting: McFaksaGOAT
Don’t even need to see the trade. Only way Dallas moves Hintz is with a severe overpay from an opposing team. He was a rock in the late half of the season and was a huge reason dallas went somewhere in the playoffs


overpaying on a player like Hintz wouldnt be much

i mean 22 points in 58 games is nothing special
if he had 20 goals and wasnt a -11 then sure maybe teams would pay more

i look at Lehkonen whom everyone on this site says isnt worth a 2nd round pick and he had done more his rookie year at age 21 then Hintz did at age 22 . his 2nd season he had almost identical numbers to Hintz with more Goals scored and everyone said it 'ruined his trade value ' . Even coming off a Career year last season i cant convince anyone on here to give up a 2nd for him .

Hintz only edge is he can take faceoffs at an Andrew Shaw like consistency from wing but so can many players accross the league .

at this point i wouldnt even trade Hintz for Lehkonen one for one because Lehkonen's a mobile 2 way player where as Hintz is a big bodied power forward who create's havoc along the boards and infront of the net . there is value in Hintz as a Power Forward but that's 2-3 years from now if he can keep up to the speed of todays game at his size .


this feels like Faksa all over again
you guys place more value on him because he's a big body built for the old NHL but he's still just a 30 point bottom 6 player on a playoff worthy team .
24 sep 2019 à 21 h 36
#12
Billy739
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Folin sadly is > Honka
Drouin > Hintz

even if you cut Drouin's production in half he still produces more then Hintz
Drouin has the Skill and once he settles in could be a 60 point player on a team with a decent power play as he's a consistent leader in MTL

Hintz will never be a 60 point player unless he plays LW for Crosby-Malkin and even then i highly doubt it
24 sep 2019 à 21 h 43
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McFaksaGOAT
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Quoting: Billy739
overpaying on a player like Hintz wouldnt be much

i mean 22 points in 58 games is nothing special
if he had 20 goals and wasnt a -11 then sure maybe teams would pay more

i look at Lehkonen whom everyone on this site says isnt worth a 2nd round pick and he had done more his rookie year at age 21 then Hintz did at age 22 . his 2nd season he had almost identical numbers to Hintz with more Goals scored and everyone said it 'ruined his trade value ' . Even coming off a Career year last season i cant convince anyone on here to give up a 2nd for him .

Hintz only edge is he can take faceoffs at an Andrew Shaw like consistency from wing but so can many players accross the league .

at this point i wouldnt even trade Hintz for Lehkonen one for one because Lehkonen's a mobile 2 way player where as Hintz is a big bodied power forward who create's havoc along the boards and infront of the net . there is value in Hintz as a Power Forward but that's 2-3 years from now if he can keep up to the speed of todays game at his size .


this feels like Faksa all over again
you guys place more value on him because he's a big body built for the old NHL but he's still just a 30 point bottom 6 player on a playoff worthy team .


Quoting: Billy739
Folin sadly is > Honka
Drouin > Hintz

even if you cut Drouin's production in half he still produces more then Hintz
Drouin has the Skill and once he settles in could be a 60 point player on a team with a decent power play as he's a consistent leader in MTL

Hintz will never be a 60 point player unless he plays LW for Crosby-Malkin and even then i highly doubt it


Sounds like you never watched a Dallas game after the all star break. He for sure gets in the 50 point range. He’s the X-Factor for this group and without him you could make a case they may not get into the playoffs. He’s a late bloomer who really proved himself last year. He finished the year off with 17 points in 31 games. Roughly on pace for mid 40s in points which would be a solid rookie season. He’s only getting better and he’ll be playing with Seguin and Radulov for a full season. A 2nd is not even close to his value
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24 sep 2019 à 21 h 48
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Quoting: McFaksaGOAT
Sounds like you never watched a Dallas game after the all star break. He for sure gets in the 50 point range. He’s the X-Factor for this group and without him you could make a case they may not get into the playoffs. He’s a late bloomer who really proved himself last year. He finished the year off with 17 points in 31 games. Roughly on pace for mid 40s in points which would be a solid rookie season. He’s only getting better and he’ll be playing with Seguin and Radulov for a full season. A 2nd is not even close to his value


sure

whatever you say guy lol
Lehkonen had 11 points 6 goals in the last 12 games of his rookie season including 3 GWG
it means **** all without consistency

The term Late Bloomer is reserved for guys like Domi in MTL or Strome in CHI who took 3-4 seasons to establish themselves at the projections from draft Day.

you dont call a 22 year old rookie forward taken in the late 2nd round a late bloomer as he hasnt even had the chance to play enough games one way or the other to make such a claim. DAL didnt take him in the 2nd round expecting him to be an NHL regular at his peak by age 22 i know that for sure
24 sep 2019 à 22 h 00
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Quoting: Billy739
sure

whatever you say guy lol
Lehkonen had 11 points 6 goals in the last 12 games of his rookie season including 3 GWG
it means **** all without consistency

The term Late Bloomer is reserved for guys like Domi in MTL or Strome in CHI who took 3-4 seasons to establish themselves at the projections from draft Day.

you dont call a 22 year old rookie forward taken in the late 2nd round a late bloomer as he hasnt even had the chance to play enough games one way or the other to make such a claim. DAL didnt take him in the 2nd round expecting him to be an NHL regular at his peak by age 22 i know that for sure


Again you clearly never watched him if you keep dropping the word “consistency” lmfao he was one of if not the only consistent Dallas forward in the playoffs and late end of the season. Do your research before you look up points and games played lmfao
24 sep 2019 à 22 h 02
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Quoting: McFaksaGOAT
Again you clearly never watched him if you keep dropping the word “consistency” lmfao he was one of if not the only consistent Dallas forward in the playoffs and late end of the season. Do your research before you look up points and games played lmfao


when your'e agrument is '' conform or you wrong '' i cant take you seriously .

once i can ignore , twice i just laugh , 3 times i assume you're incapable of defending your player with examples so you just push conformity over discussion

talking smack is showing the world you're incapable of offering anything to the Conversation and is as good as a white flag in my books. If you had done any research yourself you'd be able to hold up your end of the conversation but instead rely on me to prove my point and yours.
24 sep 2019 à 22 h 03
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McFaksaGOAT
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Quoting: Billy739
when your'e agrument is '' conform or you wrong '' i cant take you seriously .

once i can ignore , twice i just laugh , 3 times i assume you're incapable of defending your player with examples so you just push conformity over discussion


Why are you taking a cap friendly post so seriously lmfao it’s literally just hockey relax
24 sep 2019 à 22 h 13
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Billy739
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Quoting: McFaksaGOAT
Why are you taking a cap friendly post so seriously lmfao it’s literally just hockey relax


'' i cant talk hockey , so ill keep acting confused ''

i am the same online as offline
i was raised at a time when Accountability mattered.

when i'm wrong i learn something ,that's how i see it .
when guys like you are wrong its everyone else's fault for not thinking like you lol


in my day we would have fact based conversations with no one crying opinion police .
today people value opinion over basic common sense .
24 sep 2019 à 22 h 27
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Quoting: Billy739
'' i cant talk hockey , so ill keep acting confused ''

i am the same online as offline
i was raised at a time when Accountability mattered.

when i'm wrong i learn something ,that's how i see it .
when guys like you are wrong its everyone else's fault for not thinking like you lol


in my day we would have fact based conversations with no one crying opinion police .
today people value opinion over basic common sense .


So like did you do any sort of actual research before you decided to have such an incorrect assessment of Hintz? ESPECIALLY comparing him to Lehkonen who’s possession stats are nowhere near the level of Hintz’s. I get that those who have never seen Hintz play on a consistent basis may look at basic stats and draw an average conclusion of him but the dude has and incredible set up skills and size that are going to be hard to stop for years to come. Just the fact that you actually suggested Lehkonen being anywhere near the same level as Hintz is absolutely maddening. There is a reason why the rest of the comments on this thread would actually be okay with Honka/Hintz for Drouin/Folin and a Pick. Bc Hintz has so much potential that he is just tapping into
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24 sep 2019 à 23 h 08
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McFaksaGOAT
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Quoting: Billy739
'' i cant talk hockey , so ill keep acting confused ''

i am the same online as offline
i was raised at a time when Accountability mattered.

when i'm wrong i learn something ,that's how i see it .
when guys like you are wrong its everyone else's fault for not thinking like you lol


in my day we would have fact based conversations with no one crying opinion police .
today people value opinion over basic common sense .


Dude what are you talking about LMFAO
 
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