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What LaineConner should get after Boeser deal

Créé par: JBR409
Date de création initiale: sep 16, 2019
Publié: Sep 16, 2019 at 9:34 pm
Équipe: 2019-20 Jets de Winnipeg
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RFAANNÉESCAP HIT
Connor, Kyle37 500 081 $
Laine, Patrik37 510 029 $
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2020
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2281 500 000 $81 059 274 $0 $272 500 $440 726 $
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Laine, Patrik
7 510 029 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
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Scheifele, Mark
6 125 000 $
C
UFA - 5
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Wheeler, Blake
8 250 000 $
AD, C
NMC
UFA - 5
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Connor, Kyle
7 500 081 $
AG
UFA - 7
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Little, Bryan
5 291 666 $
C, AD
NMC
UFA - 5
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Ehlers, Nikolaj
6 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 6
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Perreault, Mathieu
4 125 000 $
AG, C
NTC
UFA - 2
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Lowry, Adam
2 916 666 $
C
UFA - 2
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Roslovic, Jack
894 166 $
AD, C
RFA - 1
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Bourque, Gabriel
700 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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Copp, Andrew
2 280 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
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Appleton, Mason
741 667 $
AD, C
RFA - 1
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Kulikov, Dmitry
4 333 333 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 1
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Byfuglien, Dustin
7 600 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 2
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Hellebuyck, Connor
6 166 666 $
G
UFA - 5
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Morrissey, Joshua
3 150 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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Pionk, Neal
3 000 000 $
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Brossoit, Laurent
1 225 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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Beaulieu, Nathan
1 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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Niku, Sami
775 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
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Letestu, Mark
700 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
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Poolman, Tucker
775 000 $
DD
UFA - 2

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16 sep 2019 à 21 h 35
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Toronto homers would say different after the marner deal
16 sep 2019 à 21 h 37
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Jay27
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I'd say these are fair because of the short term, but whether Laine and his agent think the same may be a different story.
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16 sep 2019 à 21 h 37
#3
Wqrrior
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Boeser was Connor's best comparable. Realistically I think Connor should get about 250k less on the same term, but Connor has wanted longer term from the start. 7 years, 50M is still what I think he is worth.
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16 sep 2019 à 21 h 38
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I think Connor will (and should) get a deal similar to Boeser and Meier, so 3-4 years at no more than 6 mil AAV. Laine is much harder to predict, his last year wasn't great, so the Jets could believe they can get him on a short "prove it" contract, but his full body of work (110 goals already in his career) warrants a bigger contract
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16 sep 2019 à 21 h 41
#5
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JBR409
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Quoting: MJC13
I think Connor will (and should) get a deal similar to Boeser and Meier, so 3-4 years at no more than 6 mil AAV. Laine is much harder to predict, his last year wasn't great, so the Jets could believe they can get him on a short "prove it" contract, but his full body of work (110 goals already in his career) warrants a bigger contract


Laine and Connor are going to get similar contracts. Connor would get mad because he performed better than Laine last season
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16 sep 2019 à 21 h 45
#6
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Laine shouldnt get higher than 6.5 on a three year deal based on Boeser. If will get 7-7.5 on a 7 or 8 year deal
16 sep 2019 à 21 h 56
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Quoting: MJC13
I think Connor will (and should) get a deal similar to Boeser and Meier, so 3-4 years at no more than 6 mil AAV. Laine is much harder to predict, his last year wasn't great, so the Jets could believe they can get him on a short "prove it" contract, but his full body of work (110 goals already in his career) warrants a bigger contract


I don't see how Connor accepts less than Ehlers who he outperformed through their ELCs.
16 sep 2019 à 21 h 56
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Quoting: bunzy1034
Laine shouldnt get higher than 6.5 on a three year deal based on Boeser. If will get 7-7.5 on a 7 or 8 year deal


Friendly reminder. Laine is 4th ALL TIME in goals by 20 and 3rd ALL TIME in goals by 19.
16 sep 2019 à 21 h 58
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Quoting: ChiHawk
Toronto homers would say different after the marner deal


Well most nhl teams don’t dish out 11.643m for a player who has accomplished nothing.... 0 mvps 0 rockets 0 top 10 in points. 0 playoff series won... you get the point.... MaRnEr WoNt GeT mOrE tHaN 9M
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16 sep 2019 à 21 h 59
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Quoting: BCAPP
Friendly reminder. Laine is 4th ALL TIME in goals by 20 and 3rd ALL TIME in goals by 19.


Those numbers only matter if they improve year after year. Right?
16 sep 2019 à 22 h 01
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Quoting: BCAPP
I don't see how Connor accepts less than Ehlers who he outperformed through their ELCs.


Ehlers isn't his comparable anymore, its guys in the same tier that signed this year, like Meier and Boeser.
16 sep 2019 à 22 h 04
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Quoting: MJC13
Ehlers isn't his comparable anymore, its guys in the same tier that signed this year, like Meier and Boeser.


BS. He out produced a guy who is comparable but worse on his team who signed a contract w couple years ago. It's a perfect comparison. This isn't a winger to a C to a defenseman or something.
16 sep 2019 à 22 h 07
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Quoting: BCAPP
BS. He out produced a guy who is comparable but worse on his team who signed a contract w couple years ago. It's a perfect comparison. This isn't a winger to a C to a defenseman or something.


Ehlers was 6x6, so no they are not comparable at all. a 3 year bridge will obviously have a lower AAV than a long term deal
16 sep 2019 à 22 h 07
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Quoting: Capitalfail67
Those numbers only matter if they improve year after year. Right?


We don't have year after year data. We have 3 years which are essentially 2.5 years of ALL TIME GREAT goal scoring and 1/2 a year of eh goal scoring.

I don't know what to do with it either but acting like the Boeser contract really changes the situation is kidding ourselves.

My outlook is the only thing to do is give him a short bridge, like 7 mil *2 years. Let him prove which player is the real deal.

If he's this generations Ovi, then he'll get his money in two years.

If he's this generations Jimmy Carson then he'll show himself and get paid as such then.
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16 sep 2019 à 22 h 08
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Quoting: MJC13
Ehlers was 6x6, so no they are not comparable at all. a 3 year bridge will obviously have a lower AAV than a long term deal


Fair enough if only talking bridge.
16 sep 2019 à 22 h 21
#16
nickk
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Connor wants long term
16 sep 2019 à 22 h 33
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Quoting: BCAPP
We don't have year after year data. We have 3 years which are essentially 2.5 years of ALL TIME GREAT goal scoring and 1/2 a year of eh goal scoring.

I don't know what to do with it either but acting like the Boeser contract really changes the situation is kidding ourselves.

My outlook is the only thing to do is give him a short bridge, like 7 mil *2 years. Let him prove which player is the real deal.

If he's this generations Ovi, then he'll get his money in two years.

If he's this generations Jimmy Carson then he'll show himself and get paid as such then.


Laine should gladly take 7.5-8x2-3year
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17 sep 2019 à 11 h 17
#18
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I can see Connor getting around 50M on a 7 year contract, Laine will get a three year bridge with a 8-9M salary in year 3 for the qualifying offer,...so a 3 year/20M contract(6-6-8)
 
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