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mARnEr wOnT gET ofFer sHEeTEd

Créé par: CBJ4CUP
Date de création initiale: sep 16, 2019
Publié: Sep 16, 2019 at 9:13 am
Équipe: 2019-20 Maple Leafs de Toronto
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Johnsson, Andreas
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AG
UFA - 4
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Matthews, Auston
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C
UFA - 5
TOR
Marner, Mitchell
10 893 000 $
AD
UFA - 6
TOR
Mikheyev, Ilya
925 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
TOR
Tavares, John
11 000 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 6
TOR
Nylander, William
6 962 366 $
AD, AG
UFA - 5
TOR
Petan, Nicolas
775 000 $
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RFA - 2
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3 500 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 4
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Kapanen, Kasperi
3 200 000 $
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RFA - 3
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Agostino, Kenny
737 500 $
AG
UFA - 2
TOR
Spezza, Jason
700 000 $
C, AD
NTC
UFA - 1
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Moore, Trevor
775 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 2
TOR
Shore, Nick
750 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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Rielly, Morgan
5 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
TOR
Ceci, Cody
4 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
TOR
Andersen, Frederik
5 000 000 $
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NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Muzzin, Jake
4 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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Barrie, Tyson
2 750 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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Hutchinson, Michael
700 000 $
G
UFA - 1
TOR
Harpur, Ben
725 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
TOR
Schmaltz, Jordan
700 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
TOR
Marincin, Martin
700 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
TOR
Holl, Justin
675 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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Dermott, Travis
863 333 $
DG
RFA - 1
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Horton, Nathan
5 300 000 $
AD
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
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Hyman, Zach
2 250 000 $
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NTC
UFA - 2
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Clarkson, David
5 250 000 $
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16 sep 2019 à 9 h 15
#1
GM Hockeysaurus Rex
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Important part of offersheets was always that player needs to sign it. Which did not happened.
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16 sep 2019 à 9 h 29
#2
Rinzler
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its like people forget that part so often lol both parties gotta agree.
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16 sep 2019 à 10 h 03
#3
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Any word on what team the offers came from?
16 sep 2019 à 10 h 09
#4
GM Hockeysaurus Rex
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Quoting: BrandonMcD11
Any word on what team the offers came from?


Most accurate reports seem to point at Minnesota and Columbus.
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16 sep 2019 à 10 h 22
#5
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Quoting: SammyT_51
Important part of offersheets was always that player needs to sign it. Which did not happened.


Yes I am aware... but the point was that people(you included) said marner wouldnt even receive an offer..
16 sep 2019 à 10 h 25
#6
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Quoting: CBJ4CUP
Yes I am aware... but the point was that people(you included) said marner wouldnt even receive an offer..


Yup I said that and my basis for that was that every team knows he wants to be a Leaf. Basis proven right, but conclusion proven wrong.
16 sep 2019 à 10 h 38
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Quoting: SammyT_51
Most accurate reports seem to point at Minnesota and Columbus.


Who's the source on Minnesota? Seems like something Michael Russo would have reported on. Also seems unlikely given they didn't have a GM for a large portion of that time.
16 sep 2019 à 10 h 39
#8
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Quoting: JayTea
Who's the source on Minnesota? Seems like something Michael Russo would have reported on. Also seems unlikely given they didn't have a GM for a large portion of that time.


Matthew Barnaby or whats his name.. I personally kept hearing Montreal and Columbus all the time.
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16 sep 2019 à 11 h 06
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Quoting: SammyT_51
Matthew Barnaby or whats his name.. I personally kept hearing Montreal and Columbus all the time.


Ah, ok. Seems odd because Fenton supposedly hated offer sheets due to Nashville's experience dealing with Weber receiving one and by the time Guerin came on board, they didn't have cap space to take on Marner without sending out salary somehow.
16 sep 2019 à 11 h 08
#10
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Quoting: JayTea
Ah, ok. Seems odd because Fenton supposedly hated offer sheets due to Nashville's experience dealing with Weber receiving one and by the time Guerin came on board, they didn't have cap space to take on Marner without sending out salary somehow.


I thought firstly it was MTL and CBJ tbh.
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16 sep 2019 à 11 h 10
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Quoting: SammyT_51
Important part of offersheets was always that player needs to sign it. Which did not happened.


ive been saying that all summer, when people are clamouring oh someone should offersheet Marner/Laine/etc the player is in control, not the team who is interested in tendering one.
Same with Point in tampa, he doesnt want to leave Tampa, so these 8mx4year or whatever minor ones people post now wont get the job done.
16 sep 2019 à 11 h 13
#12
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Quoting: coga16
ive been saying that all summer, when people are clamouring oh someone should offersheet Marner/Laine/etc the player is in control, not the team who is interested in tendering one.
Same with Point in tampa, he doesnt want to leave Tampa, so these 8mx4year or whatever minor ones people post now wont get the job done.


Off topic... but so much for Rantenen signing before training camp
16 sep 2019 à 11 h 18
#13
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Quoting: CBJ4CUP
Off topic... but so much for Rantenen signing before training camp


meh, it was always depending on the Marner fall out, which didnt help that it extended into Training Camp and he got overpaid, so im sure that put a monkey wrench into their contract talks
16 sep 2019 à 11 h 25
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Quoting: SammyT_51
I thought firstly it was MTL and CBJ tbh.


Both teams make sense. Montreal already tried one and CBJ could have used a replacement for Panarin.
16 sep 2019 à 11 h 36
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Quoting: coga16
meh, it was always depending on the Marner fall out, which didnt help that it extended into Training Camp and he got overpaid, so im sure that put a monkey wrench into their contract talks


I just remember u saying that it was already pretty much set in place, and if it did get into training camp that it would be unacceptable
16 sep 2019 à 11 h 38
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Quoting: CBJ4CUP
I just remember u saying that it was already pretty much set in place, and if it did get into training camp that it would be unacceptable


No I said that was the rumour, that they had the framework of a deal in place, Clearly that may have been over blown, but there are multiple fowards still not signed bc of the Marner fall out, so this is not a Rantanen issue, this is sitll an RFA group issue that all the big guns, Rants/Laine/Connor/Tkachuk/Boeser/Konecny/Point
16 sep 2019 à 11 h 56
#17
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Quoting: coga16
No I said that was the rumour, that they had the framework of a deal in place, Clearly that may have been over blown, but there are multiple fowards still not signed bc of the Marner fall out, so this is not a Rantanen issue, this is sitll an RFA group issue that all the big guns, Rants/Laine/Connor/Tkachuk/Boeser/Konecny/Point


"If he isnt signed a few days before camp I can agree with that, then something majorly wrong happened and I would expect a longer hold out. From Sakics presser a couple weeks ago and from the info BSN Denver was hinting around about things are close...I would be shocked and disappointed since all the signs are there that this thing was almost done."
16 sep 2019 à 11 h 58
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Quoting: CBJ4CUP
"If he isnt signed a few days before camp I can agree with that, then something majorly wrong happened and I would expect a longer hold out. From Sakics presser a couple weeks ago and from the info BSN Denver was hinting around about things are close...I would be shocked and disappointed since all the signs are there that this thing was almost done."


yeah I am disappointed that he isnt signed, I dont know what your point is, I just am putting things into perspective as well. I can be disappointed that hes not signed right now but something did happen....Marner changed the market and the bench mark has changed.

Whats your point?
16 sep 2019 à 15 h 14
#19
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Quoting: coga16
yeah I am disappointed that he isnt signed, I dont know what your point is, I just am putting things into perspective as well. I can be disappointed that hes not signed right now but something did happen....Marner changed the market and the bench mark has changed.

Whats your point?


You just were so confident it was set in stone...
16 sep 2019 à 15 h 16
#20
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Quoting: CBJ4CUP
You just were so confident it was set in stone...


no I wasn't, I was being rationale the whole time based on the info presented at the time
but you do you bud, still have no idea what your point is here,
16 sep 2019 à 20 h 01
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Quoting: SammyT_51
I thought firstly it was MTL and CBJ tbh.




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17 sep 2019 à 0 h 38
#22
GM Hockeysaurus Rex
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