Discount on the AAV to hit Ufa quickly? Seems reasonable but it likely ends up being 5 years because no one ever gets 4

Vasilevsky contract extension next season and Sergachev needs a contract, I would offer sheet Sergachev if I was another team for sure. This AAV would put Tampa in a tough spot next season.

COL decline

This is not a discount. This is what he would get for eight years. I know he’s a center, but I don’t understand how he can possibly justify a better deal than the Hart winner with multiple 100+ point seasons, nor the Vezina winning goalie who was a two-time finalist. His closest comparable on the team is Stamkos, and the AAV would be similar on a long-term deal. Marner was overpaid, but that doesn’t mean every RFA is getting overpaid.

Marner was paid fairly for Toronto because dubas set the bar
Other teams don’t have to be stupid like dubas
That being said I feel 7 million for 3 or maybe 8 million on a 5 or 6 year deal
Again my opinion. I might be wrong but I can’t see Tampa going over 8 million for his team comparison and cap space

Prefer 8 year 10M deal .. settle for 5 for 9.5 .. if he takes less than 9 his agent should be SHOT .. injuries happen in this sport.. bridges are good in theory until they crash on people below.. if I Point .. ZERO chance of me caving and take it to at least December or demand trade

I would love a long-term deal as well, but we don't have the cap for that. With performance bonuses, we have pretty much under $7.5m. Point at eight years would be $9.5m, I would assume. It would be hard for him to argue for more because team comparables tend to be valued more than outside comparables, especially when it's pretty widely regarded that outside comparables like Marner were overpaid, and Point is by no means more valuable than a Hart-winner with multiple 100+ point seasons or Vezina-winner and two-time finalist. My guess for what Point would sign for is in the universe of $9.5 x 7-8, $8.5 x 6, $8 x 5, neither side wants 4, and for 1-3 it would be significantly less (probably ~$6.5m) with a backloaded contract so that his next QO has to be massive, guaranteeing that he will, eventually, make money. If we find teams to take Condon and Rutta, then we can probably get the long-term deal and I would love to see that, but who on earth wants to be dedicating over $1m of cap to an AHL backup goalie?

Maybe you would hold out if you were Point, but McAvoy and Werenski, two of the five most recent RFAs to sign, agreed to that style of a heavily discounted bridge deal and are now guaranteed $7.3m and $7m on their next contract, which, for them, is more than what they would have gotten right now long-term. Some hockey players just want the stability of a guaranteed long-term contract, but it's obviously not unheard of to do things the way BriseBois is pressuring Point right now.

I think if Point decides to bet on himself and takes a three year deal, it's probably going to be in the area of $6.5m and no more than $7m. The advantage for Point is that the last year salary would be like $9m or $10m or even more, meaning his next QO will be that massive.

Except point is better than marner so....

So? Just because someone got overpaid, doesn't mean every single player better than him (especially when you're talking about such different roles and subjectively defining the value of each) is getting overpaid by even more. As I said, team comparables matter a lot more in RFA negotiations, typically, than external comparables. Goalies are sort exceptions because there's only one starter per team (though Vasilevskiy signed the same deal as Kucherov under the same agent and that's likely not entirely coincidence), but it shouldn't be a surprise that Werenski and Jones are on similar deals, McAvoy and Krug are somewhat close, and Marner's cited comparable was Matthews/Tavares rather than wingers like Kane, Kucherov, and Panarin. And as far as team comparables go, Point is not getting a nonsense deal we can't afford.