Sadly

so many no votes!

Honestly, I don't blame him. I'd want paid too.
I don't think he's worth it though. He hasn't shown it at least. Lots of money for 20 some goals.

TBL must be going nuts looking at that. What the hell does point get if Marner gets 10.8. He scored 40+ goals.

Well, 6 years is better than 3, but still an overpayment.

Hoping that Tkachuk will not ask that much...

You know the player has input into what they think they are worth, right? What if your boss came to you and told you he was going to pay you way less than you wanted? Would you just say okay I'm lucky to be here.

Well Leafs, good luck next year with your defence. The situation looks really ugly. Cannot believe players don't care about other team members or having a stanley cup team. I mean let's be honest, next year the leafs won't be SC contenders simply cause they don't have any cap for their depth players.

Those were justified by Stanley cup wins, team accomplishments, and personal accomplishments.

What has Marner done? What have the Leafs done?

Reasons why Toronto management isn't worried:

1. Toronto's top two prospects are both Dmen who will make <1M for their first three seasons. Both are knocking on the door this camp but will have until next year to further develop

2. $16M is coming off the books after this season with their forward core fully intact. Meaning 5.33M can be allotted per man if they wanted to (Rielly, Sandin, Liljegren are the other 3; Dermott is RFA)

3. Cap hit will only go up next season, and is projected to skyrocket with the new TV deal/Seattle expansion

So moving forward to 2020: Rielly is signed; Dermott won't sign for more than 5.33M unless it's long term; Sandin and Liljigren will be on ELCs; salary cap will go up, leaving ~10M+ to sign/trade for two Dmen.

Of course then you might say, what about when Rielly's contract expires? Or Andersen's? Just like when they signed Tavares - what about Matthews, Nylander, Marner? Or when Nylander signed, what about Matthews and Marner, etc etc. There's a method to Dubas&Co's madness; they've considered everything moving forward. Even if push comes to shove, they trade a periphery piece like Kerfoot, Kapanen, or Johnsson. By that time, Bracco, Robertson, or SDA will be able to step in on their ELC.

Finally ... it's over. It's done. Finally.

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If possible do the math. Leaf have cap room next year. Don't know why any knowledgeable fan would say that. Cupboard bare? C'mon try to know about a team before making silly statements.
Looks like the Habs will be close to he cap next year....and not out of the first round either.

Leafs have 17 Million next year with 1 defensemen signed. This team isn't better than last year and they are even tighter to the cap.
The cupboard is bare compared to other teams around the league, yes.
Montreal has 18 Million in cap next year and the only player they have to resign is Domi. Good try though

He was 93 before NHL

toronto's forward core is miles ahead of montreal's and will be in place for the next few seasons. they can allocate that entire 17 million to resigning dermott, one of barrie/muzzin, and getting a ufa to fill in the gaps. sandin and lijegren should be ready next season and if they're not, than there are a million 3rd pairing guys they can aquire for cheap.

I wouldn't even say Toronto's forwards are better than Montreal's forwards. Toronto is a 2 line team that can be exploited by a team like Montreal when they play. Shut down those top 2 lines and you will dominate.

Say Muzzin gets 7, that gives you Reilly and Muzzin. Liljegren and Sandin are both unproven. That defense doesn't get you to the cup.

Lol that opening statement is pure gold.

It took 20 years, Dubai’s going through the washer and dryer and back again, Marner makes his contract the goddamn Dover king of the NHL, but it’s done.

ever heard of jokes?
salty that this team will be tanking for 1st pick in a couple of years thanks to cap hit?

ever heard of jokes?
salty that this team will be tanking for 1st pick in a couple of years thanks to cap hit?

Not talent wise, but the way Montreal's forward core is built, is better in the playoffs. Toronto can't get out of the first round because they have no depth whatsoever. Boston can easily out match Toronto

Lol

I literally just finished watching that movie RN?

as I said the moment the Matthews contract was inked. The leafs did it to themselves. They way overpaid Matthews which left them with no choice but to also overpay Marner. They have only themselves to blame.

Blame themselves for what exactly?
Are they forfeiting the season because their players are too expensive?


I think people are struggling to see the truth behind their current criticism of Toronto: "you can't fill out a team around those 4 contracts".

Their argument does makes sense ... but it's only one perspective of the situation (the worst possible perspective).

For example: Lets widen the lens a bit and compare the new cap situation to other NHL teams.


Can Toronto afford to build a team around the Top-9 forwards that they've locked in?

$11,630,000 x 5 years = Matthews
$11,000,000 x 6 years = Tavares
$10,890,000 x 6 years = Marner
$6,960,000 x 5 years = Nylander
$3,500,000 x 4 years = Kerfoot
$3,400,000 x 4 years = Johnsson
$3,200,000 x 3 years = Kapanen
$2,250,000 x 2 years = Hyman
$770,000 x 2 years = Moore (or replacement)

$53,600,000 = Total Cap-Hit (top-9 forwards)
$5,950,000 = Average Cap-Hit (top-9 forwards)

The answer to this question is an easy yes .


Many teams are actually spending a similar amount or more on their top 9 forwards (their 9 most expensive forwards).

But most of them don't have a forward group this talented:

Johnsson - Matthews - Nylander
Hyman - Tavares - Marner
Moore - Kerfoot - Kappy

However ... I still don't think Dubas did a very good job ... why TF did Lou not get one more year to negotiate these contracts ...

blame themselves for another overpayed contract which makes the cap magic tougher, definitely not impossible but why spend an extra 4million a year if you don't have to? That is a decent player's contract.