Modifié 15 sept. 2019 à 21 h 20
Quoting: LoganOllivier
So all the other RFA's were apparently waiting for Marner to set the market. And now they are all going to take substantially less money why? Why wait for the guy to set the mark, set the mark and then be like, "okay I'll take way less than that marker I was waiting for." They waited all this time for what then?
If that was the case they all would have signed by now.
I think in Rantanen's case, he is saying, "look, I've outscored Marner, for an 8 year deal which I am open too, its going to be 12 at least. It's a new world." That or he's going to get a monster back loaded 3 year deal that will come with a QO over 12 million. Same with Point, if he was going to take a much smaller deal, he would have already. He's much more important to Tampa than Marner is and he's better. For a longer term deal for him, its started ahead of Eichel. Its not being greedy, its understanding the market and these guys are going to be pulling weight on the ice and don't want to wait for big pay days when they are older and looking like they could decline.
Of course all the other rfas were waiting on Marner. But just because he got a crazy over pay and the others will want the same, doesn't mean they're going to get it. Something about getting blood from a stone... that kinda money just isn't there for those guys, or at least it isnt without the GMs either gutting their team to accomodate it or wrecking their cap structure.
I'm sticking with my take that Dubas over paid Mitch the way he did in order to end the madness. And I think he did that because it was the lesser of two evils.. i.e over pay him like crazy or deal with the ongoing insanity of Dreger, Ferris, all the Paul's and a fan base that was very quickly turning on Mitch in a way that was swinging Marner's manufactured narrative towards one that was painting him as an entitled problem player.
I actually think that what Dubas did was an attempt to manage the value of the asset (Mitch) while stabilizing the team dynamic I.e. the last thing the leafs need this year would be the distraction and media chaos that would have come from this thing dragging out any longer.
Marner got his crazy over pay because of the Toronto context and because of the ridiculous way his camp approached negotiations. I don't see the other rfas willing to adopt Marner's tactics and they don't play in the Toronto market.. meaning, that there won't be the 24/7 media knucklehead nonsense that we have and I doubt that the fan base in Colorado or Tampa is as rabid or obsessive as leaf nation.
The rfas can threaten to sit out until they get the Marner deal, but I doubt that they will. My take is that they all come in on reasonable deals under 10M aav with similar term to Marners deal. The only guy I could see sitting out to try to force a higher contract is Tkachuk . He comes from hockey royalty and doesn't need the money at all..
Anyways, that's my take, Logan. I could be wrong, it happens at the time. But I just can't see, say Sakic, giving his rfa Marner money, just because that's what Rantanen thinks is fair. I'd imagine that Sakic would let him sit before he signs him to a Marner deal, because he can. Hes not in Toronto...Dreger wont be stirring up drama nonstop and I doubt the Avs fanbase would go bananas about it either .