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Laine Faulk to ANA

Créé par: mytduxfan
Équipe: 2019-20 Ducks d'Anaheim
Date de création initiale: 10 sept. 2019
Publié: 11 sept. 2019
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Potential moves for ANA. I am for both moves.

Faulk gives us that point-shot threat we haven't had for a long time. I think his defensive deficiencies are a little overblown and, likely, of little concern for us as we don't really have any issues in giving him more offensive zone starts as most our D-man excel on the other side of the puck anyway. I know Kase is a lot to give up, but I am in the camp that believe his injury-prone nature will continue to be an issue.

As far as Laine, his addition would give us a truly elite goalscorer. I am a big believer in Comtois and so feel that Rakell is expendable in order to make the move go ahead. The 1st is to account for differences in age and the fact that goalscorers like Laine are harder to come by.

Future line-up:

Laine - Zegras - Terry
Comtois - Steel - Sprong
Henrique - Lundestrom - Silfverberg
Ritchie - Groulx - Jones

Depending on how Sprong progresses, could look to a blue-chip RW prospects to the mix, but the rest of the team looks solid.
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11 sept. 2019 à 6 h 44
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"excel on the other (defensive) side of the puck"... 5th worst in xGA though... (Mostly the bottom 4 i would assume, but that's where Faulk would be playing sooo)
11 sept. 2019 à 7 h 4
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"excel on the other (defensive) side of the puck"... 5th worst in xGA though... (Mostly the bottom 4 i would assume, but that's where Faulk would be playing sooo)


Don't you worry about that, just give us Kase real quick
11 sept. 2019 à 7 h 26
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Anaheim is on Faulks no trade list? He'd have to waive his NTC to go there, And there's no guarantees he will.
11 sept. 2019 à 7 h 40
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Anaheim is on Faulks no trade list? He'd have to waive his NTC to go there, And there's no guarantees he will.


Its been said that all he needs is an extension and he will waive to go there
11 sept. 2019 à 7 h 42
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Its been said that all he needs is an extension and he will waive to go there


Any ideas what he's asking for? Thought i read somewhere that he was seeking 6 x 6 on his next deal.
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If there are any left. ??
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Any ideas what he's asking for? Thought i read somewhere that he was seeking 6 x 6 on his next deal.


not sure the term, but I have read 6mil. I think that is kinda accurate. Probably between 5-6 mil
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not sure the term, but I have read 6mil. I think that is kinda accurate. Probably between 5-6 mil


Thanks, Anaheim would be the perfect fit for him.
11 sept. 2019 à 8 h 15
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I would think Rakell and a first is a good trade for Laine from ANA's side. arguably a steal
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Anaheim is on Faulks no trade list? He'd have to waive his NTC to go there, And there's no guarantees he will.


I got sources, who talk directly to GMS and players, saying 4.8x6y is what was offered to Faulk, he will waive by the weekend, he was waiting to waive because he wanted an extension. Currently talking to family I would assume
11 sept. 2019 à 8 h 43
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I got sources, who talk directly to GMS and players, saying 4.8x6y is what was offered to Faulk, he will waive by the weekend, he was waiting to waive because he wanted an extension. Currently talking to family I would assume


So he's essentially making the same money then $4.8M per over 6 years, That's probably the best he could do any ways. And Anaheim seems like a perfect fit for him.
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So he's essentially making the same money then $4.8M per over 6 years, That's probably the best he could do any ways. And Anaheim seems like a perfect fit for him.


I think he wanted 5.5-6 but could stick for that money
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I think he wanted 5.5-6 but could stick for that money


Agreed that's still decent money for him.
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Agreed that's still decent money for him.


By Saturday Faulk will be a duck
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By Saturday Faulk will be a duck


I think so too, Like most of us have stated. Anaheim the best fit for him.
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I think so too, Like most of us have stated. Anaheim the best fit for him.


I thought CHI or PIT or a number of teams would've been a better fit personally, I mean he will play on 2nd pair either way
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I thought CHI or PIT or a number of teams would've been a better fit personally, I mean he will play on 2nd pair either way


PIT would've been nice, And CHI i guess ANA would be the next best then.
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PIT would've been nice, And CHI i guess ANA would be the next best then.


before Maatta I saw CHI as a hotbed for a lot of defenseman, Gardiner, Brodie, Faulk, Hamilton I saw Chicago as a spot for nice defenseman to go, especially if its a Brodie to play with Keith, but I think they trust in Gustafsson, which is a wise move, I would've thought at the deadline Gardiner and offseason Barrie, a 1 year rental to ease in the prospects, they shoudnt have made they Jokiharju/Nylander trade they need as much as they can get on the back end
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Okay?

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"excel on the other (defensive) side of the puck"... 5th worst in xGA though... (Mostly the bottom 4 i would assume, but that's where Faulk would be playing sooo)


Carlyle effect.

Anyway, that wasn't even the point. Are you telling me that Lindholm is an offensive D-man? How about Manson? or Fowler? At least for me, Lindholm and Manson are D-first D-men i.e. they "excel on the other (defensive) side of the puck". Fowler is more of a 2-way D-man, but he excels in transition. In summary, none of them are offensive D-man. So we could certainly use one and wouldn't have a problem loading his starts + minutes in the offensive zone.

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Don't you worry about that, just give us Kase real quick


I think you mean "half a season of Kase". Look, I love Kase when he's playing, but he's so injury-prone. While CAR fans may think they're the winners in a Kase for Faulk deal, Kase is one more serious head injury away from having to hang them up. He's had 3 concussions in the past 3 years. I think Despres quit after his 3rd NHL concussion.

Quoting: jslongo
Its been said that all he needs is an extension and he will waive to go there


I think the deal has stalled and that's why this information was leaked by CAR. I doubt it goes ahead now. Faulk doesn't want to play in ANA and we shouldn't be accepting players that don't want to be here.

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Yep, we're still here.

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I got sources, who talk directly to GMS and players, saying 4.8x6y is what was offered to Faulk, he will waive by the weekend, he was waiting to waive because he wanted an extension. Currently talking to family I would assume


"Sources" eh? No, no... tell me more.
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Okay?



Carlyle effect.

Anyway, that wasn't even the point. Are you telling me that Lindholm is an offensive D-man? How about Manson? or Fowler? At least for me, Lindholm and Manson are D-first D-men i.e. they "excel on the other (defensive) side of the puck". Fowler is more of a 2-way D-man, but he excels in transition. In summary, none of them are offensive D-man. So we could certainly use one and wouldn't have a problem loading his starts + minutes in the offensive zone.



I think you mean "half a season of Kase". Look, I love Kase when he's playing, but he's so injury-prone. While CAR fans may think they're the winners in a Kase for Faulk deal, Kase is one more serious head injury away from having to hang them up. He's had 3 concussions in the past 3 years. I think Despres quit after his 3rd NHL concussion.



I think the deal has stalled and that's why this information was leaked by CAR. I doubt it goes ahead now. Faulk doesn't want to play in ANA and we shouldn't be accepting players that don't want to be here.



Yep, we're still here.



"Sources" eh? No, no... tell me more.


Lindholm-Manson excel on the other side of the puck, but we don't really have another d man that does
13 sept. 2019 à 11 h 50
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Lindholm-Manson excel on the other side of the puck, but we don't really have another d man that does


So you want us to have another one instead of a point threat? I am not against getting another D-first d-man, but we need to address our lack of scoring threat from the point. Faulk does that.
13 sept. 2019 à 12 h 22
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So you want us to have another one instead of a point threat? I am not against getting another D-first d-man, but we need to address our lack of scoring threat from the point. Faulk does that.


the bottom 4 is Fowler Guhle MDZ/Holzer Larsson/Mahura, the only one of those guys that is competent defensively is Larsson, plus its not like Manson-Lindhom are incompetent offensively, id prefer to get a dfd to play second pair, drop Fowler to third pair with Larsson, and have the second pair dfd mentor one of the other kids
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the bottom 4 is Fowler Guhle MDZ/Holzer Larsson/Mahura, the only one of those guys that is competent defensively is Larsson, plus its not like Manson-Larsson are incompetent offensively, id prefer to get a dfd to play second pair, drop Fowler to third pair with Larsson, and have the second pair dfd mentor one of the other kids


Huh? Fowler is competent defensively, especially against the rush. I would say Larsson is "solid" defensively. He's certainly not a liability, but he's young and makes the same mistakes all young players make.

I don't know who you have been watching, but both Manson and Larsson are D-first D-man. Sure, Manson can jump in on the rush every now and again and net us a goal, but he's not a constant threat offensively. Meanwhile, Larsson is a blackhole offensively and not particularly good in transition either. He was sent down to AHL for the past couple of seasons to improve his outlet pass and general offensive prowess. Sadly, based on the recent rookie tournament, he doesn't appear to have done that. I don't think either Manson or Larsson are competent offensively. Manson is good enough. Larsson needs significant work. I definitely wouldn't want Larsson in our top 4 this season. Both him and Guhle were less than impressive in the rookie tournament. They've got a few years of development to go, but, in terms of what they currently bring to an NHL team, neither comes close to Faulk.

So you want...

Lindholm - Manson
DFD - Guhle
Fowler Larsson

Looks like a pretty poorly thought out line-up to me. I mean, you're getting very little scoring out of all 3 pairings and there isn't a single big shot amongst all 6 of them. I mean, Lindholm and Manson are minute-munchers who you put out against the oppositions top line. Fine! DFD + Guhle though, what are they good at? Guhle hasn't looked that good and a DFD is going to do what exactly? We have Lindholm-Manson to take those tougher minutes and you're not putting Guhle out against the McDavid's of the league... so what's the point? What are you trying to achieve. Then you have Fowler with Larsson. Fowler excels in a pairing where his partner is willing to make the gritty plays and take the hits to get/keep possession i.e. Lovejoy. Larsson is a kid and not a particularly tough one. I don't see Larsson being the type of player to take those hits and make those plays. Also, Larsson can't do anything offensively and Fowler is only good at passing. Again, the pairings seem poorly thought out.
 
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