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If McAvoy situation goes south and I mean really south

Créé par: ngikas
Équipe: 2019-20 Bruins de Boston
Date de création initiale: 24 août 2019
Publié: 24 août 2019
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Blockbuster move, from what I can remember reading on here from other users is that this may not fill EDM's needs and it doesn't really fit BOS needs either really outside adding that RW they've been looking for even tho Pool Party may not be the solution. Long term it would be tough to keep this team together beyond the 2019-20 season. I'll probably get a lot of hate, deservingly so, for trading away McAvoy. But this is kind of a worst case scenario type of mock. Miller could be moved elsewhere I just included him in the deal to make it easier. In the end of it Im just curious as to what McAvoys value is at on the market if in fact he would ever be on the trade block. WHICH HE IS NOT. Just curious to hear BOS evaluation of value on him in the trade market.
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24 août 2019 à 10 h 25
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
It makes them much better but if that's your opinion so be it.


I just physically can’t understand how anyone that has ever so much as seen one single hockey game could possibly think this. Did you watch a single playoff game this year? Do you know who Charlie Mcavoy is? Are you confusing him with Carlo? That could make a bit more sense
24 août 2019 à 10 h 33
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
I just physically can’t understand how anyone that has ever so much as seen one single hockey game could possibly think this. Did you watch a single playoff game this year? Do you know who Charlie Mcavoy is? Are you confusing him with Carlo? That could make a bit more sense


Yes I watched much of it but getting RNH, Nurse, Jp and Larsson would improve your depth so much.
I really don't think Bruins fans realize how much they need another top 6 forward and sorry but Coyle just doesn't get it done. RNH with Krejci and Debrusk would be a solid line. Plus the overpay trade is the Oilers taking Miller who has little to no value and you Bruins fans overrate Grzelcyk a bit. I agree the original trade as proposed isn't good for the Bruins but if the Oilers added RNH and a 1st you'd be absolutely delusional to not think that's a great trade for the Bruins, your window to win cups is now and getting RNH helps with that big time!
24 août 2019 à 10 h 54
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Yes I watched much of it but getting RNH, Nurse, Jp and Larsson would improve your depth so much.
I really don't think Bruins fans realize how much they need another top 6 forward and sorry but Coyle just doesn't get it done. RNH with Krejci and Debrusk would be a solid line. Plus the overpay trade is the Oilers taking Miller who has little to no value and you Bruins fans overrate Grzelcyk a bit. I agree the original trade as proposed isn't good for the Bruins but if the Oilers added RNH and a 1st you'd be absolutely delusional to not think that's a great trade for the Bruins, your window to win cups is now and getting RNH helps with that big time!


Getting rnh helps a ton! Losing Mcavoy means none of it matters. Cancel the season. Zero chance. Don’t even bother showing up. Make this trade and might as well trade Bergeron and Marchand while you’re at it.
24 août 2019 à 10 h 58
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Yes I watched much of it but getting RNH, Nurse, Jp and Larsson would improve your depth so much.
I really don't think Bruins fans realize how much they need another top 6 forward and sorry but Coyle just doesn't get it done. RNH with Krejci and Debrusk would be a solid line. Plus the overpay trade is the Oilers taking Miller who has little to no value and you Bruins fans overrate Grzelcyk a bit. I agree the original trade as proposed isn't good for the Bruins but if the Oilers added RNH and a 1st you'd be absolutely delusional to not think that's a great trade for the Bruins, your window to win cups is now and getting RNH helps with that big time!


I think context is important to consider here. While RNH, Nurse, Larsson, JP, 1st is probably more pure value than McAvoy, McAvoy is so important to Boston’s success now and in the future as a legit #1 RHD that it would take a drastic overpayment to acquire him.

Additionally, while I would love RNH, Boston really needs a RW, not another lefty. So even with an overpayment this trade still doesn’t fill Boston’s most important need. (Unless RNH can play RW?)
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24 août 2019 à 12 h 2
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Sweeney wouldn't move McAvoy for Erik Karlsson, And now you just offer him even a worse deal for McAvoy. That's total garbage for a player of McAvoy's value.
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24 août 2019 à 12 h 4
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Mcavoy>>>>>Nurse
Gryz>Larsson
I like getting Pool but this hurts our D far too much, if we trade Mcavoy we NEED to be getting a stud top 6 F in return
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24 août 2019 à 13 h 41
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Edm declines. Grezlyk and Miller have nearly zero value. And mcavoy < nurse and larsson. Then you have Jp and the 2nd. Way too much in Boston’s favour


Lol, clueless. Oilers decline. But Grizz is worth a 2nd and Miller a 4th.
24 août 2019 à 14 h 30
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Lol, clueless. Oilers decline. But Grizz is worth a 2nd and Miller a 4th.


Still macavoy and Miller are not worth jp, nurse and larsson. I would take those 3 over macavoy and Miller.
24 août 2019 à 14 h 33
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Getting rnh helps a ton! Losing Mcavoy means none of it matters. Cancel the season. Zero chance. Don’t even bother showing up. Make this trade and might as well trade Bergeron and Marchand while you’re at it.


Ok drama queen. You have to get over this incredibly unhealthy love affair you have for all Bruins d men under 25. None of them are Bobby Orr. Your value of them is incredibly skewed and reeks of homerism.


Bruins don’t make this trade. From a team need standpoint it makes no sense for Boston. Doubt Oilers do it either. They get the best player in the deal no question. Beyond that it makes little sense for them either.
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24 août 2019 à 14 h 39
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Still macavoy and Miller are not worth jp, nurse and larsson. I would take those 3 over macavoy and Miller.


Most GMs would not. ??‍♂️

Nurse, 2nd, Puju not enough for Mac considering how little Puju is worth at this point.

Grizz and Miller for Larssen is fairly close. They are all 2nd pair d men. Grizz has the most upside of the 3 and Larssen is incredibly overrated.
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24 août 2019 à 14 h 55
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Ok drama queen. You have to get over this incredibly unhealthy love affair you have for all Bruins d men under 25. None of them are Bobby Orr. Your value of them is incredibly skewed and reeks of homerism.


Bruins don’t make this trade. From a team need standpoint it makes no sense for Boston. Doubt Oilers do it either. They get the best player in the deal no question. Beyond that it makes little sense for them either.


In fairness, it isn’t really homerism. I just value d men in general higher than most.

That said there’s no homerism here, it’s nust awful
24 août 2019 à 15 h 10
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When did I ever so much imply that Mcavoy and Mcdavid were close to a fair swap? Their not.

The bruins aren’t trading their best player (He is their best player, it’s not really that close) for a bunch of okay pieces. They’re good players, but not core players. Then Grzelcyk is tossed in for some reason. This just totally destroys the bruins chances. Toronto would run over them if they didn’t have Mcavoy. They would be a wild card team at best


I love the whole arguing here but their best player is a bit of an overstatement. maybe in 2 years hes that but right now no. I think going forward he might be their most important player to lead the blue line going forward
25 août 2019 à 0 h 12
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Lmfao bye kid


Seriously......you can't have any of the Bruins players unless you agree to give them back at least a peak period Ray Bourque, Bobby Orr, Wayne, Mario & one of Sidney, Nathan, Auston, or Connor. Add a few firsts and they might consider trading Backes to you but you'll have to retain at least the equal of Backes' salary as well.
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25 août 2019 à 0 h 17
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Ok drama queen. You have to get over this incredibly unhealthy love affair you have for all Bruins d men under 25. None of them are Bobby Orr. Your value of them is incredibly skewed and reeks of homerism.


Bruins don’t make this trade. From a team need standpoint it makes no sense for Boston. Doubt Oilers do it either. They get the best player in the deal no question. Beyond that it makes little sense for them either.


When your own team's fans start to go off at you....if you have any of the brains that you repeatedly profess to having.....you should take a hint and drop your head below the parapet for a while, right? Confused
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