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If McAvoy situation goes south and I mean really south

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Blockbuster move, from what I can remember reading on here from other users is that this may not fill EDM's needs and it doesn't really fit BOS needs either really outside adding that RW they've been looking for even tho Pool Party may not be the solution. Long term it would be tough to keep this team together beyond the 2019-20 season. I'll probably get a lot of hate, deservingly so, for trading away McAvoy. But this is kind of a worst case scenario type of mock. Miller could be moved elsewhere I just included him in the deal to make it easier. In the end of it Im just curious as to what McAvoys value is at on the market if in fact he would ever be on the trade block. WHICH HE IS NOT. Just curious to hear BOS evaluation of value on him in the trade market.
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24 août 2019 à 1 h 43
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Edm declines. Grezlyk and Miller have nearly zero value. And mcavoy < nurse and larsson. Then you have Jp and the 2nd. Way too much in Boston’s favour
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Edm declines. Grezlyk and Miller have nearly zero value. And mcavoy < nurse and larsson. Then you have Jp and the 2nd. Way too much in Boston’s favour


I’d hold McAvoy > Larsson
But McAvoy - Nurse is hard,

Now nurse has really started becoming what he was drafted to be, if he has another good season he’s got some stock rising. But McAvoy is 3 years younger and still great. But JP is also no value if you’re saying those guys from Boston have no value, as JP can’t hold an NHL job or give quality minutes.

EDM would decline as Nurse is the deal breaker if it was like Bouchard, Larsson I could see EDM taking that very easily but Boston wouldn’t do it unless maybe it was Bouchard + Bear or Jones + Larsson
24 août 2019 à 2 h 20
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Edm declines. Grezlyk and Miller have nearly zero value. And mcavoy < nurse and larsson. Then you have Jp and the 2nd. Way too much in Boston’s favour


okay, so you have no idea who matt grzelcyk is, or mcavoy for that matter.

This would be the best trade in edmonton oilers history (for them).
24 août 2019 à 2 h 21
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I’d hold McAvoy > Larsson
But McAvoy - Nurse is hard,

Now nurse has really started becoming what he was drafted to be, if he has another good season he’s got some stock rising. But McAvoy is 3 years younger and still great. But JP is also no value if you’re saying those guys from Boston have no value, as JP can’t hold an NHL job or give quality minutes.

EDM would decline as Nurse is the deal breaker if it was like Bouchard, Larsson I could see EDM taking that very easily but Boston wouldn’t do it unless maybe it was Bouchard + Bear or Jones + Larsson


maybe mcavoy is worth like, 14 nurses. mcavoy vs nurse isn't hard, mcavoy is a legit number one. nurse is a legit number 3.
24 août 2019 à 2 h 21
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you're better than this trash.
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24 août 2019 à 2 h 31
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maybe mcavoy is worth like, 14 nurses. mcavoy vs nurse isn't hard, mcavoy is a legit number one. nurse is a legit number 3.


I’d rather McAvoy, but I’m trying to look at it from both teams, I’d anyone decides who wins or loses this trade it’s McAvoy. Trust me, I love McAvoy but if your a EDM fan/ ownership you love Nurses game, 41pts; can’t call him the best defender (his own end) in the league but he could be top pair on a lot of teams with a big frame and size and plays hard and gritty. McAvoy is more like doughty potential tho, a lot more upside if he can reach it, he’ll be great at defence and put up offensively, and hopefully this coming season he gets to put in 82 games or close to. I’m on your side, I’d rather McAvoy but Nurse is pretty darn good if you’re look at it from both sides
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24 août 2019 à 2 h 33
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I’d rather McAvoy, but I’m trying to look at it from both teams, I’d anyone decides who wins or loses this trade it’s McAvoy. Trust me, I love McAvoy but if your a EDM fan/ ownership you love Nurses game, 41pts; can’t call him the best defender (his own end) in the league but he could be top pair on a lot of teams with a big frame and size and plays hard and gritty. McAvoy is more like doughty potential tho, a lot more upside if he can reach it, he’ll be great at defence and put up offensively, and hopefully this coming season he gets to put in 82 games or close to. I’m on your side, I’d rather McAvoy but Nurse is pretty darn good if you’re look at it from both sides



this is an absurdly lopsided trade.
24 août 2019 à 2 h 36
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this is an absurdly lopsided trade.


And I can understand your opinion as I stated I’d rather McAvoy and wouldn’t accept the trade. you don’t need to state your obvious opinion again
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24 août 2019 à 2 h 39
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And I can understand your opinion as I stated I’d rather McAvoy and wouldn’t accept the trade. you don’t need to state your obvious opinion again


ya but it's not like we're discussing something that's close here. edmonton could add RNH and it's still an easy no. They could add two first rounders and it's still an easy no.
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ya but it's not like we're discussing something that's close here. edmonton could add RNH and it's still an easy no. They could add two first rounders and it's still an easy no.


The fact that you’re not considering RNH Nurse Larsson JP obviously means you’re being very blinded by your own opinion. RNH is amazing 2nd line easy on Boston, Nurse is great maybe plays with Krug or just 2nd pair with whomever slots in, Larsson is whatever plays on Boston’s 3rd pair nothin higher, JP starts 3-4th line; Boston is amazing franchise with a great room it seems and they actually win hockey games lol this could help turn JP around (as of now JP is just a toss in), plus let’s a 2020 1st round pick and another with maybe put a Condition on it to turn into a 2021 first and you’re literally being offered a chance to be deeper than tampa. Boston is already incredible and could keep up with Tampa in a playoff season imo and if they played my team the sharks last year it’d be hard to bet against Rask and Debrusk + “the line”. Debrusk - RNH - Coyle is a tough 2nd line, could be first almost. I’m not sure if your biased for McAvoy is healthy here, if that’s not a “close” trade than you’re calling McAvoy a most valuable player in the league

That’s

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LARSSON
JP
2020 First
2020 2nd (can turn into a 2021 first if McAvoy puts up more than 35/40 PTS or something idk)

For

McAvoy
G
Miller
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24 août 2019 à 2 h 51
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The fact that you’re not considering RNH Nurse Larsson JP obviously means you’re being very blinded by your own opinion. RNH is amazing 2nd line easy on Boston, Nurse is great maybe plays with Krug or just 2nd pair with whomever slots in, Larsson is whatever plays on Boston’s 3rd pair nothin higher, JP starts 3-4th line; Boston is amazing franchise with a great room it seems and they actually win hockey games lol this could help turn JP around (as of now JP is just a toss in), plus let’s a 2020 1st round pick and another with maybe put a Condition on it to turn into a 2021 first and you’re literally being offered a chance to be deeper than tampa. Boston is already incredible and could keep up with Tampa in a playoff season imo and if they played my team the sharks last year it’d be hard to bet against Rask and Debrusk + “the line”. Debrusk - RNH - Coyle is a tough 2nd line, could be first almost. I’m not sure if your biased for McAvoy is healthy here, if that’s not a “close” trade than you’re calling McAvoy a most valuable player in the league


McAvoy is the bruins best player. he is also the bruins player with the most potential for improvement. Grzelcyk is their best 5 on 5 left hand D. That trade literally destroys the bruins. It turns them from a contender to trash.
24 août 2019 à 2 h 59
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McAvoy is the bruins best player. he is also the bruins player with the most potential for improvement. Grzelcyk is their best 5 on 5 left hand D. That trade literally destroys the bruins. It turns them from a contender to trash.


I just edited my comment prior to your response in case that went after your quote.

Anyways,

I’d say we can swap G for backes to help bruins,
And yes most potential, and arguably most “value”
But I’d think Bergeron or Marchand Pasta can pull more than McAvoy or just as much/equal.

I wouldn’t call him their best player, but if you think moving McAvoy for a player than can play 1st and 2nd line quality time and production (RNH can do that if you don’t believe so your ignoring him), Nurse who is a top 3 man can easily be top 2, Larsson who would be your 5-6 man, and JP who has potential to develop into what he was drafted to be: makes tour a trash team gaining 2 quality players, losing backes and maybe if you don’t like JP you can take like Jones or Bear I’d think you’re wrong. Boston would be a contender very much still. But whatever agree to disagree yet still agree that McAvoy is the better player in the deal
24 août 2019 à 3 h 26
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McAvoy is the type of player you do what ever you can to keep.
24 août 2019 à 8 h 9
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Kinda ridiculous to think Thea Oilers would overpay a McAvoy contract.. Gotta think McAvoy would sign for less in hometown Boston, a good team, than in Edmonton. OK trade McAvoy but to a more likely team and show the contract he signs.
24 août 2019 à 9 h 54
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The fact that you’re not considering RNH Nurse Larsson JP obviously means you’re being very blinded by your own opinion. RNH is amazing 2nd line easy on Boston, Nurse is great maybe plays with Krug or just 2nd pair with whomever slots in, Larsson is whatever plays on Boston’s 3rd pair nothin higher, JP starts 3-4th line; Boston is amazing franchise with a great room it seems and they actually win hockey games lol this could help turn JP around (as of now JP is just a toss in), plus let’s a 2020 1st round pick and another with maybe put a Condition on it to turn into a 2021 first and you’re literally being offered a chance to be deeper than tampa. Boston is already incredible and could keep up with Tampa in a playoff season imo and if they played my team the sharks last year it’d be hard to bet against Rask and Debrusk + “the line”. Debrusk - RNH - Coyle is a tough 2nd line, could be first almost. I’m not sure if your biased for McAvoy is healthy here, if that’s not a “close” trade than you’re calling McAvoy a most valuable player in the league

That’s

RNH
NURSE
LARSSON
JP
2020 First
2020 2nd (can turn into a 2021 first if McAvoy puts up more than 35/40 PTS or something idk)

For

McAvoy
G
Miller


That's an overpayment that'd make the Bruins difficult to beat, adding RNH would give the Bruins the top 6 player they desperately need.

That trade would gut the Oilers, they only have three top 6 forwards, subtracting RNH just makes them worse.
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24 août 2019 à 9 h 58
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I just edited my comment prior to your response in case that went after your quote.

Anyways,

I’d say we can swap G for backes to help bruins,
And yes most potential, and arguably most “value”
But I’d think Bergeron or Marchand Pasta can pull more than McAvoy or just as much/equal.

I wouldn’t call him their best player, but if you think moving McAvoy for a player than can play 1st and 2nd line quality time and production (RNH can do that if you don’t believe so your ignoring him), Nurse who is a top 3 man can easily be top 2, Larsson who would be your 5-6 man, and JP who has potential to develop into what he was drafted to be: makes tour a trash team gaining 2 quality players, losing backes and maybe if you don’t like JP you can take like Jones or Bear I’d think you’re wrong. Boston would be a contender very much still. But whatever agree to disagree yet still agree that McAvoy is the better player in the deal


Yikes. So you don’t understand what a number one d man means to a team huh? There’s one player Edmonton could trade for mcavoy, and that ain’t happening
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Yikes. So you don’t understand what a number one d man means to a team huh? There’s one player Edmonton could trade for mcavoy, and that ain’t happening


Yikes you don’t understand how blind you are,


Sad really, if you think Mcdavid - McAvoy is at close to a fair swap if that’s who you’re referring too, which makes you not even in a rude way towards you, but just dumb
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24 août 2019 à 10 h 17
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That's an overpayment that'd make the Bruins difficult to beat, adding RNH would give the Bruins the top 6 player they desperately need.

That trade would gut the Oilers, they only have three top 6 forwards, subtracting RNH just makes them worse.


Lol not everyone thinks the same logically it seems tho
24 août 2019 à 10 h 20
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Yikes you don’t understand how blind you are,


Sad really, if you think Mcdavid - McAvoy is at close to a fair swap if that’s who you’re referring too, which makes you not even in a rude way towards you, but just dumb


When did I ever so much imply that Mcavoy and Mcdavid were close to a fair swap? Their not.

The bruins aren’t trading their best player (He is their best player, it’s not really that close) for a bunch of okay pieces. They’re good players, but not core players. Then Grzelcyk is tossed in for some reason. This just totally destroys the bruins chances. Toronto would run over them if they didn’t have Mcavoy. They would be a wild card team at best
24 août 2019 à 10 h 21
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That's an overpayment that'd make the Bruins difficult to beat, adding RNH would give the Bruins the top 6 player they desperately need.

That trade would gut the Oilers, they only have three top 6 forwards, subtracting RNH just makes them worse.


This would make the bruins a trash fringe playoff team that wouldn’t have hopes of getting to the second round. It ruins them.
24 août 2019 à 10 h 21
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When did I ever so much imply that Mcavoy and Mcdavid were close to a fair swap? Their not.

The bruins aren’t trading their best player (He is their best player, it’s not really that close) for a bunch of okay pieces. They’re good players, but not core players. Then Grzelcyk is tossed in for some reason. This just totally destroys the bruins chances. Toronto would run over them if they didn’t have Mcavoy. They would be a wild card team at best


Lmfao bye kid
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Lol not everyone thinks the same logically it seems tho


They are delusional, period.
24 août 2019 à 10 h 23
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Lmfao bye kid


That’s what someone says when they are starting to realize they’re wrong
24 août 2019 à 10 h 24
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This would make the bruins a trash fringe playoff team that wouldn’t have hopes of getting to the second round. It ruins them.


It makes them much better but if that's your opinion so be it.
 
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